Birmingham attack gone quiet ?!

[AlwaysHopefull89]

correct me if I have missed anything here on this… but has the news gone quiet on the woman who was attacked unprovoked in Birmingham? Do we know who done it?!

The poor woman has died and all you can do is argue about racial diversity. We don’t know the identity of the victim who could easily be from a ‘diverse’ heritage herself.

As someone who grew up in Brum and has heard of many such horrific unprovoked, daylight, stranger attacks over the past 20 years, the cause has often been a failure of mental health services.

The city council is broke, having fallen foul of 10 years of Tory council cuts disproportionately targeted at Labour councils and due to taking on too much over the commonwealth games.

Issues like that are more pertinent here imo. Although ultimately we shouldn’t speculate on the motives.

My heart goes out to her family.

I've told you, I get tired of seeing it used incorrectly.

And anyway, it doesn't matter how long people of colour have been in this country. It's still possible to be racist even if it were a recent change in demographic. So the argument was not even logical.

Utterly tragic. Her poor family ☹️

With respect there are more pressing matters than the origin of the murderer. First this poor lady died RIP.
Some UK born criminals are being found guilty of killing innocent people in unprovoked attacks. This is happening way too often to ignore. What is worse some accidents could have been totally prevented. As the same criminals have been caught in it previously even mere days or hours before. Unacceptable and very upsetting.

The argument was directly relevant to the racist comment above.

You chose to take issue with what you perceived to be an incorrect use of terminology, while saying nothing about the racist post that the pp was responding to.

People can draw their own conclusions.

The racist comment was wrong. Not sure why I needed to say that if my query related to another part of the post? Which as I've said multiple times now, I see often on here used in different contexts but mainly to shut down debate about demographic change.

I've got no interest in getting embroiled in racist spats. That's not who I am. But a rewriting of history to suit a narrative is tiresome.

It wasn’t a dig at anyone-it was just a comment. However, your comment does seem to suggest that to you, racially/ethnically diverse means black.

Not at all.

Have you seen the latest BBC documentary about Anglo-Saxons? You might want to watch that and educate yourself. The idea that this country has always been ‘white’ is a racist myth.

Hmm, not sure I’m going to trust any ‘facts’ from the BBC for a while.

Her name was Katie Fox, she probably isn’t from a “diverse heritage”.

To be honest I do think there is an issue with black people and crime, it’s disingenuous to just say he’s “British” as if the topic doesn’t need to be discussed further.

Black people are certainly aware of and conscious of racial differences. Birmingham has a high population of black people many of which live in poverty. In many of those families, criminality is only a stone’s throw away. They’re being told that the reason why they are down is because of X, Y, Z groups in society treat them differently. Of course, some of them are going to lap that up and respond negatively to others.

No one said he was an asylum seeker/immigrant.
Why are you obsessed by this.

Feck knows what planet she is on.

Please never stop posting.
Your totally out of touch ideas are amusing in light of what is actually happening.

😂

I couldn’t believe it when I read that she, Katie Fox had died.
I so hopped she would be alright.

Triggered?
Do you need a safe space to go and have a lie down.
😂

The poor lady Katie Fox has died and you want to argue whether something is racist or not ffs.

Some of us are capable of caring about more than one thing at once.

I'm deeply sorry for Katie Fox and her family/friends.

That doesn't mean I'm going to stop caring about racism.

I would add, you seem to be the one that's finding this thread entertaining, given your post at 14.27.

https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/policing/number-of-arrests/latest/#by-ethnicity

Black people are more likely to be arrested and more likely to be convicted of crimes. That doesn't necessarily mean that they are more likely to commit crimes. It could just mean that they're more likely to get caught.

The raw data on arrest/conviction rates also doesn't include adjustments for socioeconomic background etc. Given that black people are statistically much more likely to be living in poverty, and that people living in poverty are more likely to offend, this is relevant information.

Very little can be concluded from the arrest stats alone.

Do you remember when Karen Ingala Smith was investigating the issue of crimes against older women and found that, for some unfathomable reason, crimes against women over a certain age weren't being entered into the statistics? Some official bodies only include crimes against adults in their statistics, which must skew things dramatically. IIRC, it was also the case that an individual would only be counted as a victim of crime five times in a year. So have the misfortune to be a repeat victim (not unfeasible if you are a domestic violence victim or a shopkeeper or a police officer or a homeless person) and only the first five crimes count. Add in all the reasons why people don't report crime (which must be worse when they expect police apathy) then the statistics just seem a joke.

Yes you say that about some people can care about more than one thing at once, but you don’t miss a trick about banging the superior drum when it suits you.

I don't think it's superior to dislike both crime and racism? Seems pretty basic to me.