To think a National Emergency should be called by Starmer?

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https://news.sky.com/story/woman-critically-injured-after-being-stabbed-in-neck-in-unprovoked-attack-13466219

Another Stabbing, its daily now.

Country's been allowed to get out of hand.
Should Starmer address it?

The National Emergency should be about violence against women, surely?

Do you have some data on this?

To be fair, from what I’ve seen not even the victim gave a shit as the town was cordoned off after a trail of blood was found - not because of any victim reports.

I’m assuming we’re talking about the same one though, as I’m still not clear that that was a stabbing.

But actually there’s not a disproportionate amount of knife crime going through the courts in Huddersfield so I’m not sure it’s quite as problematic as you’re making out (or it’s not the worst problem).

In the early 2000's there was a pitched knife battle between rival drug gangs at the bottom of my road. Someone had their hand chopped off. Another man died.

For next few months there was a massive police presence day and night. There was a huge and very successful operation to smash the drug gangs.

I don't think this response would be possible now because of the cuts in policing. That is part of the problem.

oops I clicked Not Unreasonable, but I think you definitely Are BU.
Knife crime is big but there are plenty of other things as big and bigger.
Misogyny to the extent of rape remaining largely unprosecuted, with tiny or suspended sentences when it is.
Untouchable communities who as it happens tend to treat women as lesser and natural targets.
It says the attack was unprovoked. Was it because she commited the offence of being in public whilst being a woman?

What does your copy of the Daily Mail say?

Lol, poppycock.

I wonder if that was a BBC radio station-known as they are for their non-biased view?

Regardless of where you heard it though, I wonder who compiled the figures? Could it have been a body with a vested interest in saying knife crime is down?

Still wondering, I wonder how the figures used were manipulated in order to come up with a fact that many people find unbelievable?

I think the best thing to do is ignore such surveys, unless two bodies from opposite sides of the spectrum agree them.

I certainly wouldn't believe any figures put forward or "verified" by the BBC 😂or without seeing who had published the survey and if they had a vested interest or indeed, without knowing how they had come to their conclusion.

For example, maybe they have decided to omit attacks carried out with a blade but not actually a knife. Who knows but it usually pays to be not quite so gullible.

I disagree. There are areas where knife crime is vanishingly rare and crime generally is low; I live in one such area. That doesn't stop some of my friends and family being astonished that I'll walk home alone at 11pm, or that I don't freak out if I have to park my car in the next street late at night.

No.

The stats aren't ‘a survey’. They are the stats as reported by police, courts and hospitals, so no tweaking if question wording or bias comes into it. The reason you find it unbelievable is media hype - explained by PPs and definitely not neutral and reliable.

Will he address male violence against women?

I'm guessing not

It's not just knife crime there just seems to be more anti-social behavior generally. Cars speeding around/ racing each other, jumping red lights, shoplifting, fly tipping, drugs etc. We were away this week and visited what we thought was going to be a quaint town but was full of druggies and drugs appearing to be openly dealt on the street. aged men in a car park clearly never see police on the street though unless they anticipate trouble form a big event or football etc.
Lots of young people feel completely forgotten and this needs to be addressed. Whilst this doesn't excuse violence and drug taking etc we really need to be looking after our young people rather than all the focus on pensioners and pandering to their voting power.

What police force? What courts? What hospitals-particularly interested in this latter?

Do you know how a knife is defined for this purpose? Do you know that blades have now been defined as non knives-so they wouldn't be counted?

I think police forces and courts would have a very strong interest in declaring that knife attacks have reduced, don't you?

I do think you need to be careful of those with an agenda and delve a little deeper, especially when our national broadcaster has been shamed.

Do they collect stats from GMP? They don't record crime very well.

https://www.police.uk/pu/your-area/

eg:
https://www.police.uk/pu/your-area/greater-manchester-police/higher-blackley/?yourlocalpolicingteam=about-us&tab=crimemap

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So people who take their news from Radio 4 are gullible? Where would you suggest I look to for unbiased reporting?

“Known” by whom? conspiracy theorists, presumably?

The ONS is a vested interested? No, it really isn’t.

Read back what you just wrote. Don’t be daft.

OK, and your solution is…?

Do you have a profile of the victims? I'm pretty sure that unprovoked attacks on completely unrelated strangers have increased hugely. Previous knife crime was overwhelming black on black gang violence.

These random attacks on strangers going about their day are another thing altogether.

It must be exhausting being you.

To be honest, anyone who thinks the BBC is left wing in its news reports now doesn’t have the best eye for bias. Some blades have always been legal incidentally. As a Brownie in the 70s I carried a penknife. The stats are the stats. Whatever agenda the polic e ight have, they can’t not report the actual facts. It’s conspiracy nonsense to consider otherwise.

I am more concerned about the number of children being killed by XL bullies. Anyone whose dog kills should be prosecuted for murder. Another baby this week yet there are still thousands of these dogs around.

‘Pretty sure’ without seeing stats? Why?

Maybe that partly accounts for the murder stats
see the hike between 2000 and 2009.

Because a far as I know the stats on victims either aren't properly recorded or aren't readily accessible.

Pretty sure because I have a very retentive memory and I can't recall ever hearing so many reports of stranger-victim knife crime as are happening recently.

It isn’t reassuring when people know that the states are not reflecting what is happening for many people

I work in mh, closely with police and probation never have we had to deal with so many people

friends in a&e same reports

personal experiences and from family friends, colleagues who is saying crime os dropping apart from messages we get from a people quoting stats and of course the government (which all governments will like to claim)