To think a National Emergency should be called by Starmer?

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https://news.sky.com/story/woman-critically-injured-after-being-stabbed-in-neck-in-unprovoked-attack-13466219

Another Stabbing, its daily now.

Country's been allowed to get out of hand.
Should Starmer address it?

Them and people too stupid and/or lazy to do their own fact-checking… and the wilfully ignorant.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn04304/

There's an issue with young people not being criminalised which is leading to repeated offenders being 'let off' until they actually kill someone.
That has to stop.

Some people just don't do facts.

Exactly

I was a child and teenager in the 60s and 70s. There were some horrific crimes which I never heard about until I was an adult, although they were reported in the national press at the time. It was easier to shield children from bad news, things weren't repeatedly flashed onto the Internet which everyone has access to.

Well it is not going to happen, so you'll have to wait until the next GE.

I think it’s possible that the stats aren’t completely accurate. I also think it’s unlikely that massive amounts of non-gang related knife crime is happening to random people without it being reported or ending in hospital admissions (also down). The stats will be broadly right, ie knife crime hasn’t massively increased. It may have gone down a bit, stayed the same or gone up a bit because the small percentage of ‘down’ probs isn’t significant.

Stranger, unprovoked knife attacks are up all across Europe. Attacks that would have been unheard of 20 years ago but here we are.

Blimey I just clicked on this thread and thought Christ what a load of the usual and saw this 😬

If you do mean me then no I’m not a ‘troll’, and I don’t even follow ‘Elon’ - you probably follow him on X and haven’t voted Reform.

If you mean someone else crack on with the stalky weirdness.

There is a problem when people do not listen to people’s experiences and use stats as a way to shut the argument down

that is not to say they should be ignored (or the impact of sensationalised news but this is nothing new) but anyone who has the slightest knowledge of how statistics are collected knows how just a tweaking of a question can give you a completely different result

people can now more openly share their experiences, Then there is people who work on services who are openly reporting they have never had to deal with so many crimes/victims/perpetrators (and on limited budgets)

so we come back to people feeling they are not being listened to (this is dangerous do we not learn)

Crime isn't rising. Social media is just bringing it to your attention.

When was this "at one time"? A teacher was stabbed to death in one of my local schools years ago. Keir Starmer wasn't PM then, of course.

There was a stabbing in Huddersfield last night, no one gives a shit, nothing in the news. There are machete fights fairly often in Hudd and Bradford, nothing done. It's terrifying.

It's wrong that it's happening but what do you expect him to do? Now drugs are more readily available than they ever were gangs are carrying around knives as are the drug addicts and most of it is over drugs unfortunately.

Unhinged obsessives who spend too much time online and don’t have real lives or people who will put up with their weirdness.

People like the OP only think it's an 'emergency' when the government isn't 'their' government... 14 years under the Tories and not a peep about similar and worse statistics I suspect.

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When I was about 10 a boy was stabbed at our local high school. I am now in my early 60s.

Something does need to be done about knife crime, obviously. But pretending it is a new and sudden problem and we should all be cowering in fear is just manipulation.

How is the number of people being treated in hospital for knife wounds being “tweaked”?

What an absolute bin fire. They can’t even get the insults right.

It's going to be a long 3 years for some posters isn't it?

Looking at this data this also suggests that most stabbing are by someone known/ close to the victim because they didn’t fall much during covid. Not that that makes it ok in any way but does suggest that there aren’t many completely random stabbings as a percentage of total.

Because of the internet and constant access to news, and the constant need to churn new news for links.

If you put your phone down and just watch the 6 O’Clock news like we used to 30 years ago, you’ll find the number of stabbing you’re aware of will reduce significantly.

Experiences arent data though. If I know some9ne who has been stabbed this year and I didn’t last year it doesn’t mean there are more stabbings this year. People aren’t using stats to ‘shut down’ people’s experiences but to show that their experiences aren’t universal. It should be reassuring. Why is it making you angry and more scared instead of reassured?
In this case the OP isn’t talking about her experience but about what she’s seeing in the media. The reason there are more reports of knife crime making their way to her has been explained by a few PPs