XL Bully again

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Another poor child, a 9 month old baby, killed by an XL bully.

Should they be muzzled indoors around children and babies?

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/police-reveal-breed-dog-killed-32819908.amp?int_source=taboola&int_medium=display&int_campaign=organic

But that’s what everyone says don’t they? Loving family pet, never done this before, properly trained. I don’t doubt that some are treated poorly because let’s face it, the vast majority of people who actively seek out this dogs are morons who use them as a status symbol and at best don’t train them and at worse wilfully mistreat them.

With most other breeds I think that training is integral to their overall disposition and behaviour but not with XLB. They just aren’t wired up right. I hope you and your friend don’t have to find out the hard way.

Maybe look it up on Google??

I completely agree, Aubrielle. The whole system needs a thorough overhaul.

The Cane Corso I predict will be banned in the UK in the near future. They seem to be the new dog of choice for the XLB fans and have caused two fatalities in the UK already. The Dogue de Bordeaux is another contender. Livestock Guarding Breeds are great dogs in the right hands but as you know need careful management, a traumatised one especially. We have enough dogs in this country in rescue centres, we shouldn't be importing them!

The family should be charged with manslaughter. They chose a dog over their baby. Congratulations on the outcome! They will live with this forever knowing it is their fault and their fault alone.

Perhaps this is an example of natural selection- stupid people keeping dangerous dogs which kill their own offspring?

Of course yanbu. Never mind muzzling these monsters, this breed should be wiped out completely.
I just don’t get the mentality of XL bully owners - what the fuck is actually mentally wrong with them? So many of them really believe their perfect velvet hippo wouldn’t hurt a fly, right up until the moment they do - what actually is it about their XL bully that convinces them they are so special and different to all the others? And why risk it? Owning a dog like this is beyond stupid. And unfortunately it’s innocent children who have to pay the price.

They should be shot dead on sight. Every last one of them.

Parents knew the high risk and they didn't care.

We all know what kinds of people have these dogs.

The family whose dog just killed that baby also registered their XL bully.

It still killed a 9 month old in their own home.

A few owners who came out on social media to defend the breed insisted their dogs were fully trained and treated well just as you are saying now.

Their dogs killed them a few months later.

That theory may apply to some entent with most breeds, but not with this one.

Does your friend have children?

The dog has never shown aggression etc etc. they never do, do they.

Until it does and then it’s too late and you will have difficulty stopping it.

Its your choice to be around the dog but if you have children you need to be very careful indeed.

Idiots the lot of them!

This. To others with XL bully types, they don't harm a fly but then they kill a child when in a rage. Children need protection from idiots that spout this

100% agree with this.

With xl bullies, it really feels like all of the taking the usual precautions of not getting in the face, not leaving kids alone woth them etc doesn't matter...these dogs just turn and kill /seriously harm with their aggression.

I just don't think "normal rules" safeguard against the risk. Everyone always says "my dog would never hurt a fly/daft as a brush/big softie" and maybe it has until the moment it isn't., and the potential for death or serious injury is too high with these dogs in my opinion

yes of course they do, did you read the post I was replying to? That post said that staffies are not XL bullies. Which is correct.

That’s was to @EasternStandard who asked me if XL bullies concerned me

Again- all the precautions/training don’t matter. They’re not like any other dog breed. I stand by the cat vs tiger theory. They just aren’t comparable to ordinary domestic dogs.

Intimidation dog. I'll generalise and say you look at the owners and you know why they have that dog.

Trouble is, an outright ban would bring about even more underground/unlicensed breeding (litter round my way over summer), it’s all about the money.

Statistically, the numbers show that labradors are more likely to bite (not kill!) purely because of how many are registered annually: a quick look on a popular selling site shows almost 700 litters for sale today (compared to 180 springer litters).

As already mentioned, any dog (including the much touted spaniel, I’ve had one that was an absolute horror with other dogs and would snap at people, he was attacked as a baby and totally changed 😢, had to be muzzled, of course) can be aggressive.

Agreed. Certainly some breeds are far more likely to attack but any dog can turn.

A friend of my mum's had a dog (don't know what breed, it wasn't a little dog, that's all I know!) and she dropped something when doing a household job. For some reason, it flipped and bit her and took a chunk out of her arm (she'd had it for some years but it wasn't old). She had it PTS as she had a small grandchild.

Also agree with the PP who said the parents should be charged with manslaughter. Basically if your dog kills or injures someone you should be prosecuted as if you had done it.

I think that would concentrate minds, but unfortunately as so many people have dogs and say they won't hurt a fly (it's not the flies I am worried about!) the government won't do anything.

Devil dog. Basically 25kg plus of teeth and muscle with a determination to kill whatever it is fighting with. Others may disagree with opinion. Nothing charming or cute about these dogs. They are used to intimidate or act as a weapon.

There are loads of examples of where owners think this and something catastrophic happens. Why are you so arrogant that you think you can socialise instincts that have developed of hundreds of years and by how we bring them up. We can't even bring our own children up to not to sometimes end up violent even with the most nuturing upbringing. Why should we be able to do it with animals. We do not know all the triggers of animal behaviour and never will. It's manageable with dogs that we can over power when they are triggered to agression, but these dogs are powerful enough to kill adult men. They shouldn't be within our society or anywhere near our children.

What?

https://bbc.com/news/articles/c3gg6zql03eo
This poor lady was an advocate of 'there's no bad dog, just bad owners' and that properly trained dogs are not a risk. RIP

100% - without hesitation. BAM.