The immigration related clown show continues

[WildLimePoet]

So now an Algerian national who was released by mistake last week is at large. As if the previous debacle with the Epping forest sex offender wasn’t bad enough.

The fact that we are hearing about this again and again tells us that,
This happens all the time
Foreign national offenders are over represented in crime statistics
Immigration is out of control
People working in Home office, prison service and and every other government department are incompetent and beyond useless.

And these people have the audacity to tell us that they want more of the public’s money in taxes.

At this point, this government (and the previous one) is laughing at us. They are taking the piss out of us. This country is broken and Labour and Tories need to be voted so far into oblivion and out of power that they never get anywhere power, ever again.

Starmer may well not last the full term, but I am not sure how Labour could be forced from office? How do you envisage that happening? What would be the mechanism?

There isn't one. Wishful thinking isn't part of the parliamentary system.

That’s not my point.

Labour’s ability to govern could be severely impeded however - much as the back benches will not permit any reform to welfare, if the bond markets react adversely, Reeves will be compelled to make cuts.

There is a scenario where this becomes a zombie administration - a government in name only.

The UK economy is in a very precarious position at the moment.

There is a scenario where this becomes a zombie administration - a government in name only

You've changed tack a bit there. You claimed that "nobody will give this government the benefit of another three years" which indicates you think Labour somehow won't be allowed last the full term.

Now it has been pointed out to you that there is no mechanism to facilitate this (unless the government itself calls an early GE) you've switched to the notion of a "zombie government".

A zombie government can shamble on to the end of its term, much like the Tories did.

Nice try.

Nope, I maintain that people will not give this government the benefit - look at the data after 15 months - it’s pretty damning. Post budget, it will be existential.

So, whilst there is no parliamentary mechanism, government does not operate in a vacuum - the pressure from the markets, from the media, from the data, the electorate - will bear.

Whether that results in a zombie government who’s ability to do any more damage is restricted, or a challenge to Starmer, or, more unlikely, an IMF intervention, remains to be seen.

Incidentally, I find it staggering that you would seek to defend this horror show of a government.

If it is really dire though would people want them to stay in? Perhaps not even having support from anywhere

Incidentally, I find it staggering that you would seek to defend this horror show of a government

I haven't defended Labour or any other party. I thought we were simply having a chat about the processes available (or not) to end a government's term early.

Are you normally such a day dreamer?

The UK economy isn't in such dire state at all, you just wish it was, how patriotic of you.

You patently have no idea, none.

I suppose a new leader might want to try to get mandate. May called a GE when she didn’t have to.

Although she wasn’t doing too badly before it, but did lose some ground.

Like a pp said "looking for a fight"

Keep trying!

If the polls were as they are now a new leader would be absolutely bonkers to do that. May called an election because of the difficulty she had getting Brexit "done".

Eta: sorry, meant to quote @EasternStandard

May called a GE because Brexit has split her party, no other reason.

There is currently no such single issue dividing the commons.

Cross post, sorry

You seem a little obsessed with me…

It’s not healthy.

Says the guy who keeps responding to my posts, with series of insults... if only MN had a name for people like you?

Just one in five voters back Rachel Reeves’ reported plans to break Labour’s manifesto pledge not to raise taxes on working people – even if they acknowledge it’s in the country’s interests, according to new polling.

But it also indicates that the political damage inflicted by raising income tax would be reparable if it was paired with taxes on the wealthy and a positive vision for change, such as clear, achievable targets to improve public services.

A new report from cross-party think tank Demos, shared with The Independent, showed that just 20 per cent of the public believe it is acceptable for the government to break promises on tax, even if that’s what the country needs.

They might be and polls could keep going down, even some on here might think yeh this is bad.

I suppose the public can show dissatisfaction in various ways. Labour had winter of discontent, Thatcher had poll tax riots but there were GEs soon after.

Actually maybe just a new leader after Thatcher, for how long.

The GE of 92 was nothing to do with the poll tax riots, the 5 year term was up. And the Tories got back in much to everyone's surprise.

Yeh that’s true.

'Smash the gangs' -

9 boats arrived yesterday, carrying 621 people;

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats-last-7-days

What does that have to do with the accidental release of prisoners?

More relevant than the comments on the bond market, IMF intervention, Reeves' budget, welfare reform, poll tax riots,1992 general election, zombie governments, YouGov polls and Theresa May's majority I would think.

The thread has broadened, it’s just general stuff now

Threads always turn to the asylum seekers on MN

In any case, I was going to reply directly to Catchee who posted;

... No small boats for a week.