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To divorce or overreacting?

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ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 10:17

I’d really appreciate some perspective because I can’t tell if I’m overreacting or if this is something serious enough to end a marriage over.

I have been married to my husband for a couple of years and he’s a really good man. He provides for me financially even though I work full time, he’s never been abusive in any way (emotionally, mentally, financially, etc.), and he defends me strongly, even cut off some family members because of how they treated me. He treats my family with a lot of respect, and he’s physically affectionate. Hugs, kisses, cuddles- physical touch is definitely his love language.

He spends all his time with me, which I love in some ways. He doesn’t really go out much, he’s a total homebody. When he’s not working, he just wants to be home with me. We hang out a lot- watching movies, playing video games, or just relaxing together. He has close friends, but mostly interacts with them online or by phone. He’s not very social outside the house, which has never really been a huge problem for me.

The issue, and it’s been going on for years now, is that he just doesn’t express love through words or through effortful gestures like planning dates.
Before marriage, he used to constantly tell me how lucky he was, how much he appreciated me, how he loved me, and he would plan things for us. That’s actually one of the main reasons I married him. I need reassurance and verbal affection to feel loved. Now, yes he tells me he loves me every day (at night before we sleep, in the morning before work), but he is not as vocal as he used to be. He even used to send me paragraphs expressing his love for me.

Now I’m the one planning every date. If I didn’t plan them, we literally wouldn’t go out. When I bring it up, he says he’ll “try,” but even when I suggest something really minimal like “just one date night a month,” he’ll say “I’ll try” instead of actually committing. He'll then do it once or twice and then we will go months where he does not plan any dates before the issue is raised again.

It breaks my heart because I feel like I’ve been so clear about what I need, and it’s not even something huge or expensive. I’m not asking for daily gifts or over-the-top romance- just small verbal reassurances, compliments, and some effort to plan things so I feel seen and wanted. In his mind he can't see why I have an issue with being the one who plans all the dates, but I want it to be a shared thing and I want to feel like he wants to plan things and do fun things together. BTW he pays always. Not sure if that adds anything.

He’s not cruel or dismissive, like I said he says he loves me, and I know he does in his own way. But this is starting to really affect me. When I tried to tell him that, he said something that really hurt- that he “doesn’t think he has it in him” to give me what I need. Later he backtracked, but honestly I don’t think asking for one date night a month is too much.

So now I’m stuck wondering:
Am I being unreasonable for wanting this?
Would you take this as something that could be worked on, or do you think divorce is needed?

I love him, and we have a peaceful marriage but I feel unhappy with these two things. I honestly don’t know if this is fixable or if I should start accepting that this might be the rest of my life if I stay. He has now begged me to give him a chance to try but I don't know how many chances I need to give for something so minimal.

PS before anyone suggests- he is a very loyal person. We have access to each other's phones, accounts etc. so I know that he is not doing anything shady or cheating. Just want to put this out there before any potential comments.

OP posts:
Harrysarseinthedogbowl · 03/11/2025 11:25

There's high maintenance, very high maintenance and then there's you.

Sillysalamander · 03/11/2025 11:27

The point of dates is spending time together tho, you already do that!! Don’t throw something good and healthy away for unrealistic wants. I don’t know any men IRL who behave in the way you’re wanting and I know a lot of really good men. Everyone also has different love languages and it sounds like his is proximity and maybe acts or servitude/quality time? You obviously want grand gestures and words of affirmation. Are you also giving him his love language? You won’t find what you’re looking for because men like what you want are in movies or tv shows and you’re being really unrealistic to expect a real human to be completely ideal. He’s already ideal for a lot of people’s standards! Are you also an ideal partner? Honestly most men your age are awful in the single/divorced community.

TheJessops · 03/11/2025 11:28

As others have said I think this is your anxiety problem not a husband problem.

And also as others have said, if you are really that unhappy, divorce him but the chances of finding a man even equally as good as your husband that will continually meet every single little or big need forever, in a long term relationship, is extremely minimal to none assuming you wouldn't prefer being single to being in your current relationship.

In long term relationships and marriages things change, relationships develop and evolve, people evolve, we can't all behave as we did in our dating youth forever in a long term marriage, it's part of growing up. I can see why you are a little sad that he used to do these things and now he doesn't, but your whole relationship has changed, you didn't use to live together, go to be together every night, have him right there to tell you he loves you everyday. If you want to be in a long term committed relationship you need to accept things will change a bit, for examples 'date night' as you youngsters call it (assuming ages here) tends to be more of a joint discussion - 'shall we go out for dinner Saturday night?', 'shall we go and see that new movie at the cinema?', What will we do Sunday now our original plans have been cancelled?' etc etc.. rather than one in the couple arranging some surprise.

Long term relationships can be wonderful, growing up and old together, going through major life events together, if you divorce this lovely man and continue to chase perfection you will never get to experience the good things about long term relationships.

tsalty · 03/11/2025 11:31

@ldnelegantelephant have you posted about this before, before you were married? If so, you need to change therapists because it’s clearly not working. Constant reassurance is unsustainable for the other person. I wish you luck going forward

OrangeRhymesWith · 03/11/2025 11:31

This is your BPD, creating issues to match your dysregulated emotions, I mean this kindly but get therapy to tolerate these emotions rather than projecting the issue onto DH. The emptiness you say you feel is due to BPD not him. The call is coming from inside the house, if you divorce nothing will change and you'll do this pattern over and over however if you get therapy (particularly DBT) something may change - work on you before divorce

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 11:32

2024onwardsandup · 03/11/2025 11:00

Why do you expect him to pay for everything when you work full time too? It sounds like you have massively dysfunctional ideas of a relationship. Keep going with your therapy - this is a you problem not a him problem.

I don't expect him to. I always try to help out. He is a provider.

OP posts:
BunnyLake · 03/11/2025 11:32

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 10:30

Yes. I have BPD and anxiety. I am in therapy for these.

Do you think there is someone out there that can give you the 100% you expect rather than the paltry 99% your dh is giving you?

Good luck with that!

I’ll swap your dh for my ex. Ex will organise ‘date’ nights and take you to nice places and pay for you etc. You will have to put up with his temper, sexism, chauvinistic mentality, lack of empathy and compulsive lying but they’re a small price to pay for some dates.

Pleasegetmeacoffeesotired · 03/11/2025 11:32

You're never going to find a man better than this, if you leave him. I would consider that. Nobody is going to 100% meet your expectations so you would need to be prepared to be alone forever.

Mrstawnyowl · 03/11/2025 11:33

If you do decide to divorce what are you going to say at the solicitor’s office? They will be a bit confused I expect.

BananaPeels · 03/11/2025 11:36

I’m another people to say date nights don’t exist for married couples in the same was as dating to get to know someone. OP I think you need to get a grip on this as your DH sounds amazing.

HearingDrums · 03/11/2025 11:36

Is he autistic OP? Only asking as if he is, he would struggle with the things you are asking of him.
He games with you, spends his free time with you, and all the rest, he sounds lovely.
You need to work on your reactions and try to allow him to just be himself, or you will lose something good.
Arrange some days out that you would both enjoy.

2024onwardsandup · 03/11/2025 11:36

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 11:32

I don't expect him to. I always try to help out. He is a provider.

My point still stands - what do you even mean by he is a provider? You have really messed up views about relationship dynamics - no doubt from your trauma. Work on that. It may indeed be better for you to be on your own to address those issues

Clearinguptheclutter · 03/11/2025 11:36

This is not a divorce situation!

ifs an ongoing issue in our house that dh doesn’t organise (or even suggest) anything fun, ever. So any holidays, trips to see family (including his!), cinema, walks, anything are always initiated by me. It winds me up but I’ve accepted it and I certainly wouldn’t divorce him over it.

DaisyDoodler · 03/11/2025 11:36

My personal thoughts on this is that you are going to lose a good man because of your own insecurity. Nobody is perfect and no other man you meet will be either but he sounds like a good man who loves you and so I am not sure why you would consider ending a marriage over something this minor. BPD is a complex issue and can leave you needing a lot of reassurance and I would suspect your issues are due to this more than his actions and so I would suggest talking to your therapist and leaving the divorce solicitors well alone.

Starlight1984 · 03/11/2025 11:37

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 11:32

I don't expect him to. I always try to help out. He is a provider.

What the fuck?

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 11:37

FrodoBiggins · 03/11/2025 11:16

Why does he pay for everything, including the dates which only you want to go on, if you're working FT?

He does not let me pay. He likes providing for everyone. I always try to pitch in and help.

OP posts:
Enigma54 · 03/11/2025 11:37

user1492809438 · 03/11/2025 10:59

BPD and anxiety are not excuses for behaving like a spoilt princess. How go you think your husband feels, that he can never do enough to please you? You have some serious growing up to do.

This in bucket loads! Utterly spoilt and needy. What a drain on this poor man!

shhblackbag · 03/11/2025 11:38

No one person can fulfil all your needs. They're not meant to. I'd work more in therapy because you risk him actually leaving.

notacooldad · 03/11/2025 11:38

You have a great man and still want more.
Do you think the grass is greener somewhere else?

Do what you want but don't be suprised when nobody else matches up to the husband that loves and cares for you now.

Newsenmum · 03/11/2025 11:39

This is nuts. 100% actually do couples counselling to work it out.

winterbluess · 03/11/2025 11:39

Honestly, I feel like you're being high maintenance! You love each other, get on well, he treats you good.. but you want to divirce him because you want him to arrange dates more??

5128gap · 03/11/2025 11:39

I think if you do decide to leave him then do so because you feel you'd be happier on your own. I strongly advise you not to leave him with the expectation of finding a replacement who brings all the same qualities to the table, plus written paragraphs of love and an enthusiasm for scheduled enforced dates. Because frankly, I feel the odds of you succeeding are not in your favour.

Newsenmum · 03/11/2025 11:40

shhblackbag · 03/11/2025 11:38

No one person can fulfil all your needs. They're not meant to. I'd work more in therapy because you risk him actually leaving.

Also this. You need to sort yourself out op and I mean this kindly, as your self esteem seems extremely low.

EveningApartment · 03/11/2025 11:40

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 10:17

I’d really appreciate some perspective because I can’t tell if I’m overreacting or if this is something serious enough to end a marriage over.

I have been married to my husband for a couple of years and he’s a really good man. He provides for me financially even though I work full time, he’s never been abusive in any way (emotionally, mentally, financially, etc.), and he defends me strongly, even cut off some family members because of how they treated me. He treats my family with a lot of respect, and he’s physically affectionate. Hugs, kisses, cuddles- physical touch is definitely his love language.

He spends all his time with me, which I love in some ways. He doesn’t really go out much, he’s a total homebody. When he’s not working, he just wants to be home with me. We hang out a lot- watching movies, playing video games, or just relaxing together. He has close friends, but mostly interacts with them online or by phone. He’s not very social outside the house, which has never really been a huge problem for me.

The issue, and it’s been going on for years now, is that he just doesn’t express love through words or through effortful gestures like planning dates.
Before marriage, he used to constantly tell me how lucky he was, how much he appreciated me, how he loved me, and he would plan things for us. That’s actually one of the main reasons I married him. I need reassurance and verbal affection to feel loved. Now, yes he tells me he loves me every day (at night before we sleep, in the morning before work), but he is not as vocal as he used to be. He even used to send me paragraphs expressing his love for me.

Now I’m the one planning every date. If I didn’t plan them, we literally wouldn’t go out. When I bring it up, he says he’ll “try,” but even when I suggest something really minimal like “just one date night a month,” he’ll say “I’ll try” instead of actually committing. He'll then do it once or twice and then we will go months where he does not plan any dates before the issue is raised again.

It breaks my heart because I feel like I’ve been so clear about what I need, and it’s not even something huge or expensive. I’m not asking for daily gifts or over-the-top romance- just small verbal reassurances, compliments, and some effort to plan things so I feel seen and wanted. In his mind he can't see why I have an issue with being the one who plans all the dates, but I want it to be a shared thing and I want to feel like he wants to plan things and do fun things together. BTW he pays always. Not sure if that adds anything.

He’s not cruel or dismissive, like I said he says he loves me, and I know he does in his own way. But this is starting to really affect me. When I tried to tell him that, he said something that really hurt- that he “doesn’t think he has it in him” to give me what I need. Later he backtracked, but honestly I don’t think asking for one date night a month is too much.

So now I’m stuck wondering:
Am I being unreasonable for wanting this?
Would you take this as something that could be worked on, or do you think divorce is needed?

I love him, and we have a peaceful marriage but I feel unhappy with these two things. I honestly don’t know if this is fixable or if I should start accepting that this might be the rest of my life if I stay. He has now begged me to give him a chance to try but I don't know how many chances I need to give for something so minimal.

PS before anyone suggests- he is a very loyal person. We have access to each other's phones, accounts etc. so I know that he is not doing anything shady or cheating. Just want to put this out there before any potential comments.

Egg fried rice. Leftover rice. throw in whatever random veggies, a couple of eggs. Feeds a crowd, low effort and quick. None of my kids mind eating it twice a week.

Newsenmum · 03/11/2025 11:40

EveningApartment · 03/11/2025 11:40

Egg fried rice. Leftover rice. throw in whatever random veggies, a couple of eggs. Feeds a crowd, low effort and quick. None of my kids mind eating it twice a week.

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