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To divorce or overreacting?

401 replies

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 10:17

I’d really appreciate some perspective because I can’t tell if I’m overreacting or if this is something serious enough to end a marriage over.

I have been married to my husband for a couple of years and he’s a really good man. He provides for me financially even though I work full time, he’s never been abusive in any way (emotionally, mentally, financially, etc.), and he defends me strongly, even cut off some family members because of how they treated me. He treats my family with a lot of respect, and he’s physically affectionate. Hugs, kisses, cuddles- physical touch is definitely his love language.

He spends all his time with me, which I love in some ways. He doesn’t really go out much, he’s a total homebody. When he’s not working, he just wants to be home with me. We hang out a lot- watching movies, playing video games, or just relaxing together. He has close friends, but mostly interacts with them online or by phone. He’s not very social outside the house, which has never really been a huge problem for me.

The issue, and it’s been going on for years now, is that he just doesn’t express love through words or through effortful gestures like planning dates.
Before marriage, he used to constantly tell me how lucky he was, how much he appreciated me, how he loved me, and he would plan things for us. That’s actually one of the main reasons I married him. I need reassurance and verbal affection to feel loved. Now, yes he tells me he loves me every day (at night before we sleep, in the morning before work), but he is not as vocal as he used to be. He even used to send me paragraphs expressing his love for me.

Now I’m the one planning every date. If I didn’t plan them, we literally wouldn’t go out. When I bring it up, he says he’ll “try,” but even when I suggest something really minimal like “just one date night a month,” he’ll say “I’ll try” instead of actually committing. He'll then do it once or twice and then we will go months where he does not plan any dates before the issue is raised again.

It breaks my heart because I feel like I’ve been so clear about what I need, and it’s not even something huge or expensive. I’m not asking for daily gifts or over-the-top romance- just small verbal reassurances, compliments, and some effort to plan things so I feel seen and wanted. In his mind he can't see why I have an issue with being the one who plans all the dates, but I want it to be a shared thing and I want to feel like he wants to plan things and do fun things together. BTW he pays always. Not sure if that adds anything.

He’s not cruel or dismissive, like I said he says he loves me, and I know he does in his own way. But this is starting to really affect me. When I tried to tell him that, he said something that really hurt- that he “doesn’t think he has it in him” to give me what I need. Later he backtracked, but honestly I don’t think asking for one date night a month is too much.

So now I’m stuck wondering:
Am I being unreasonable for wanting this?
Would you take this as something that could be worked on, or do you think divorce is needed?

I love him, and we have a peaceful marriage but I feel unhappy with these two things. I honestly don’t know if this is fixable or if I should start accepting that this might be the rest of my life if I stay. He has now begged me to give him a chance to try but I don't know how many chances I need to give for something so minimal.

PS before anyone suggests- he is a very loyal person. We have access to each other's phones, accounts etc. so I know that he is not doing anything shady or cheating. Just want to put this out there before any potential comments.

OP posts:
JudgeJ · 03/11/2025 11:07

ThatCyanCat · 03/11/2025 11:01

Do you actually feel unloved?

I wonder if he feels loved or does he feel like an extra in someone's fantasy about married life? If she is so unhappy then he should LTB and let her continue her fantasy with some other poor man.

Purplecatshopaholic · 03/11/2025 11:07

Absolutely the latter. You would be nuts to divorce a good man over this.

SeriaMau · 03/11/2025 11:07

LTB.
But leave his email address on here first. 😀

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 03/11/2025 11:07

You'd be absolutely mad to end your marriage over this. He's showing you with his actions every day that he loves you. He wants to spend pretty much all his time with you, what bigger expression of love is there really than that?

And it's not like he never tells you he loves you. He does, frequently. And yet somehow that's still not enough for you.

You're basically expecting the impossible from him. Get over it.

Greyhound98 · 03/11/2025 11:07

Sure, divorce him if you like, see what other horrors are out there.
Life is not a romantic film. If my partner was sending me paragraphs of appreciation every day I would feel stifled.
But, each to their own.

Blueuggboots · 03/11/2025 11:07

What is HIS love language? Do you make an effort to show his love in his love language?

mumofoneAloneandwell · 03/11/2025 11:08

Yabu tbh - this is a non issue!

Some of us are single and grumpy 😭

Starlight1984 · 03/11/2025 11:08

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 10:37

My love language is words of affirmation. He knows this since day one.

Oh god this "love language" nonsense again 🙄

Also not sure why you - or your DH - need to "arrange dates". You're married? Surely you just say "do you fancy going out for dinner on Saturday?". Done.

You sound like you're extremely hard work.

SpaceRaccoon · 03/11/2025 11:09

Kindly, you need to get a massive grip.

Aimtodobetter · 03/11/2025 11:09

I would try and remember that no one is perfect in a relationship including yourself. Have you spent any time thinking about what you might be doing that doesn’t make him very happy or are you just hyper focused on this flaw. In general, I don’t think you can expect another person to fix your own insecurities - you need to do that - and your need for special date nights and OTT declarations of feels pretty unreasonable in the context of a living, caring spouse.

Sassylovesbooks · 03/11/2025 11:09

You have a you problem not a husband problem. If you need constant reassurance, that your husband adores you, then you need to address this. Your husband tells you he loves you, yet you are expecting more. You're married, not dating, he shouldn't need to keep having to reassure you all the time. It's emotionally draining. Why do you need to plan a 'date night's? Why can't it be a nice meal out or a trip to the cinema or a country walk together. Why do you need to label anything you do together?? You've got a really lovely man, who loves spending time with you and very clearly adores you - but you're wanting to mould him into exactly how you want him to be. He's a person, an individual person who has faults like everyone else in the human race. You can't have everything you want or all your own way. Of course you can divorce him, but there's much much much worse men out there than your husband. You need to start having therapy again, if you've stopped, because you need help with your anxiety and the need for constant reassurance. You can't expect your husband to change to accommodate your issues, you are the only person who can help yourself.

Sasha07 · 03/11/2025 11:09

I have a similar situation. I've noticed I feel disconnected from him when I'm tired or rundown or... Tbh... Just bored. It's definitely a 'me' issue. But, in reality, we have it really, really good. I've found the relationships where it's always 'fun' and exciting are the ones with alot of downs too, the downs are really bad so then the fun side feel extra fulfilling. But, again, look how good we have it! I wished for this back in the day when I was in a shit relationship. Just read a few threads on the relationship board and see how others have it!

As others have said, date nights are a bit cringe, just have laid-back, maybe even spontaneous, fun. Think of it as he's providing the stability and you bring the fun. So what if it's on us to create the fun, I know from my side, I'm far more creative and imaginative than he is. His 'date night' would be shit compared to what I'd think up...

But he works really hard, he's away all week in a stressful job. Instead of asking for a date night, just suggest 'should we go for a couple of drinks/a meal/cinema on Saturday?' and see how that goes. No pressure for either of you, it's just planning something to do together. Even cooking together or planning a meal, it doesn't need to be a grand gesture to bring closeness back. You'd be mad to walk out because of this. It's a shit show out there OP, keep hold of that man! 😁

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 03/11/2025 11:10

I know it’s a tired old cliche, but you do really need to count your blessings, OP.

Starlight1984 · 03/11/2025 11:12

SwordToFlamethrower · 03/11/2025 10:39

He used to do these things and now he doesn't. I don't blame you for feeling ignored, he's changed. He's also not being honest with you and that's also a problem.

Well yes, he used to arrange dates... When they were dating!!! 😂

They're married now. They no longer need to "date".

WFHforevermore · 03/11/2025 11:12

Sounds like he should be divorcing you!

JustMyView13 · 03/11/2025 11:12

Understanding someone’s love language is as much about understanding what acts or ways the other person shows love, as it is understanding what you appreciate. If his love language is acts of service, but you focus on verbalising positive words of affirmation, then he’s in the same place you are. You should make it clear that you appreciate verbal reassurance & love, but you also need to look to find the other ways he shows it imo.

FrodoBiggins · 03/11/2025 11:16

Why does he pay for everything, including the dates which only you want to go on, if you're working FT?

NimbleDreamer · 03/11/2025 11:18

What is it the kids say these days?...
"Oh no my steak is too juicy and my lobster too buttery."

Seriously, count your blessings. The issues you talk about are yours not his. Keep going to therapy to work on your massive insecurities.

TodaRythm · 03/11/2025 11:19

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 10:30

Yes. I have BPD and anxiety. I am in therapy for these.

I say this kindly: you are the problem, no him. And you are using him as a scapegoat to vent your frustration.
Raise this with your therapist as soon as possible.
It would be absolutely insane to divorce someone over this.

Starlight1984 · 03/11/2025 11:20

Sassylovesbooks · 03/11/2025 11:09

You have a you problem not a husband problem. If you need constant reassurance, that your husband adores you, then you need to address this. Your husband tells you he loves you, yet you are expecting more. You're married, not dating, he shouldn't need to keep having to reassure you all the time. It's emotionally draining. Why do you need to plan a 'date night's? Why can't it be a nice meal out or a trip to the cinema or a country walk together. Why do you need to label anything you do together?? You've got a really lovely man, who loves spending time with you and very clearly adores you - but you're wanting to mould him into exactly how you want him to be. He's a person, an individual person who has faults like everyone else in the human race. You can't have everything you want or all your own way. Of course you can divorce him, but there's much much much worse men out there than your husband. You need to start having therapy again, if you've stopped, because you need help with your anxiety and the need for constant reassurance. You can't expect your husband to change to accommodate your issues, you are the only person who can help yourself.

Why do you need to plan a 'date night's? Why can't it be a nice meal out or a trip to the cinema or a country walk together. Why do you need to label anything you do together??

Unfortunately this is yet another huge effect of social media. Same with "love languages".

I think a lot of younger people these days are struggling to settle or be happy because they are constantly watching how others live their lives and then compare themselves and their relationships to the fake lives of influencers.

Thankfully I'm too old (and happy in my marriage) to be sucked in by the bullshit you see on Instagram / TikTok but I can imagine that people in their 20s and 30s buy into it massively.

DinaofCloud9 · 03/11/2025 11:22

Hmm it sounds like you're just looking for excuses to find fault. If you don't actually love him then leave but he hasn't done much wrong.

Eddielizzard · 03/11/2025 11:23

I would not divorce over this. I would try to find ways to work through it. This man does sound like a good un

DickDewey · 03/11/2025 11:23

‘Love language’ and ‘dates’ is the sort of language I’d expect teenagers to be spouting.

Ellie56 · 03/11/2025 11:23

@ldnelegantelephant

Yes you are overreacting and quite frankly being ridiculous.

What is all this bullshit about "planning dates" when people are married?

We've been married for 40 years and we have never had a date night. But we do celebrate anniversaries, have days out, go out with friends, go to the theatre and eat out together.

Most of this stuff is suggested and then arranged by me, because I'm better at these things than he is and it probably occurs to me more than it does to him. It doesn't mean he doesn't love me as I know he does.

You need to get a grip and stop being so needy. From what you say your husband loves you very much and is quite happy spending his time at home with you.

When you were dating he had to arrange dates as that was his only way of getting to see you. He doesn't need to go out to see you and spend time with you now because you are there at home with him.

If you want to go out, do what I do, and make the suggestions and arrangements yourself, as if you're not careful you're going to drive this lovely man away.

WrylyAmused · 03/11/2025 11:24

I think the Esther Perel solution from a pp is a good one.

Also, given what you wrote, and especially as you're already in therapy for BPD & anxiety, it really does sound like your traumatised brain is really focusing on "but he's not giving me 100% of what I need to feel safe" instead of "but he is in fact giving me 99% of what I need, which is amazing and something to be grateful for".
Your trauma is not your fault, but it is your responsibility to deal with, not his to manage for you. Hopefully therapy is helping with that.

What it seems to me that you're saying to him is "I need you to change who you naturally are so that you meet all my needs - but I'm not changing myself so that my needs are more compatible with who you naturally are" - do you see why that's pretty unfair to him?

Even the verbal reassurance/compliments thing - you said he tells you he loves you morning and evening, but it's not enough cos he no longer writes paragraphs - do you not see how you're minimising the big things he's doing, because it's not exactly as you'd prefer?

Trauma makes our brains focus on the negative, because it's scanning for threats. But here, there seem to be hundreds of positives and just a few minor negatives, so you really do need to change your focus here, for both your sakes, I think.