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To divorce or overreacting?

401 replies

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 10:17

I’d really appreciate some perspective because I can’t tell if I’m overreacting or if this is something serious enough to end a marriage over.

I have been married to my husband for a couple of years and he’s a really good man. He provides for me financially even though I work full time, he’s never been abusive in any way (emotionally, mentally, financially, etc.), and he defends me strongly, even cut off some family members because of how they treated me. He treats my family with a lot of respect, and he’s physically affectionate. Hugs, kisses, cuddles- physical touch is definitely his love language.

He spends all his time with me, which I love in some ways. He doesn’t really go out much, he’s a total homebody. When he’s not working, he just wants to be home with me. We hang out a lot- watching movies, playing video games, or just relaxing together. He has close friends, but mostly interacts with them online or by phone. He’s not very social outside the house, which has never really been a huge problem for me.

The issue, and it’s been going on for years now, is that he just doesn’t express love through words or through effortful gestures like planning dates.
Before marriage, he used to constantly tell me how lucky he was, how much he appreciated me, how he loved me, and he would plan things for us. That’s actually one of the main reasons I married him. I need reassurance and verbal affection to feel loved. Now, yes he tells me he loves me every day (at night before we sleep, in the morning before work), but he is not as vocal as he used to be. He even used to send me paragraphs expressing his love for me.

Now I’m the one planning every date. If I didn’t plan them, we literally wouldn’t go out. When I bring it up, he says he’ll “try,” but even when I suggest something really minimal like “just one date night a month,” he’ll say “I’ll try” instead of actually committing. He'll then do it once or twice and then we will go months where he does not plan any dates before the issue is raised again.

It breaks my heart because I feel like I’ve been so clear about what I need, and it’s not even something huge or expensive. I’m not asking for daily gifts or over-the-top romance- just small verbal reassurances, compliments, and some effort to plan things so I feel seen and wanted. In his mind he can't see why I have an issue with being the one who plans all the dates, but I want it to be a shared thing and I want to feel like he wants to plan things and do fun things together. BTW he pays always. Not sure if that adds anything.

He’s not cruel or dismissive, like I said he says he loves me, and I know he does in his own way. But this is starting to really affect me. When I tried to tell him that, he said something that really hurt- that he “doesn’t think he has it in him” to give me what I need. Later he backtracked, but honestly I don’t think asking for one date night a month is too much.

So now I’m stuck wondering:
Am I being unreasonable for wanting this?
Would you take this as something that could be worked on, or do you think divorce is needed?

I love him, and we have a peaceful marriage but I feel unhappy with these two things. I honestly don’t know if this is fixable or if I should start accepting that this might be the rest of my life if I stay. He has now begged me to give him a chance to try but I don't know how many chances I need to give for something so minimal.

PS before anyone suggests- he is a very loyal person. We have access to each other's phones, accounts etc. so I know that he is not doing anything shady or cheating. Just want to put this out there before any potential comments.

OP posts:
Shessweetbutapsycho · 03/11/2025 18:02

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 10:30

Yes. I have BPD and anxiety. I am in therapy for these.

Gently , the behaviour you’re describing from your side seems like classic BPD traits, it’s amazing you have therapy for this (I was going to suggest you access therapy but then saw you already go). I think your feelings about this situation are worth continuing to work through with your therapist. If after this you still feel there is a genuine issue in the marriage (him becoming a recluse?) maybe suggest couples therapy?

helpme402 · 03/11/2025 18:55

hi OP, i put YABU as i think its something so small to separate over however, i do understand your frustration. What id suggest is you tell your partner, oh let's go out of X day but you plan what we should do.
Men are very forgetful and need reminders. Drives me crazy as my husband is the same but like yours is overall a good one, just small annoying tendencies.

BunnyLake · 03/11/2025 19:40

xSideshowAuntSallyXx · 03/11/2025 14:46

So he doesn't hit you, he doesn't emotionally abuse you, he's very loving, supports you, the one thing he's crap at is organising a date.

Bloody Nora I'd jump to have that and would happily organise everything date if he was perfect in every other way.

Me too!

OP your dh has one flaw (as you see it) but that flaw is about as non-toxic as any woman could hope for in a man. Have you not read all the threads on MN about women stuck with absolutely ghastly men? If that was the only flaw in my ex he wouldn’t be ex!

Butchyrestingface · 03/11/2025 22:36

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 14:52

You're slow. That’s not what I said at all. I wasn’t asking for paragraphs — I was explaining that he used to express himself that way, which shows he’s capable of being more vocal. Big difference.

The way he behaved before was unsustainable. He's likely worn out.

There is no-one alive capable of giving you the level of support you want long-term. This one has no gas left in the tank. The next one will be just the same. And the one after that.

ldnelegantelephant · 04/11/2025 09:01

Cherrysoup · 03/11/2025 17:08

He doesn’t arrange dates? Does he do anything at home eg cooking/washing/housework? Are you planning on dc? He doesn’t make the effort there, or am I misreading between the lines?

You say his love language is touch/physical. Does it always lead to sex?

Dates don’t have to be onerous, as pp have said. Just decide to go out for dinner, there is no need for some big romantic gesture, you’ve been married for 2 years and the honeymoon period is over. Writing paragraphs about how much he loves you is a bit much, imo.

Yes he does housework- I cook he washes up, I fold he hangs, etc.
No physical touch does not lead to sex. I usually am the one who initiates sex.

OP posts:
Tiswa · 04/11/2025 09:12

@ldnelegantelephant do you want a long term marriage or not? Because what you want goes hand in hand with early stages of the relationship not into marriage where skill sets tend to me people take on different things

BunnyLake · 04/11/2025 10:32

Tiswa · 04/11/2025 09:12

@ldnelegantelephant do you want a long term marriage or not? Because what you want goes hand in hand with early stages of the relationship not into marriage where skill sets tend to me people take on different things

Maybe OP should stick to dating in short term relationships so she can get her ‘honeymoon’ phase over and over.

I’m not sure OP you are cut out for the emotional stamina of a marathon, you’re more suited to the adrenaline rush of a short sprint.

moderate · 04/11/2025 10:40

ldnelegantelephant · 04/11/2025 09:01

Yes he does housework- I cook he washes up, I fold he hangs, etc.
No physical touch does not lead to sex. I usually am the one who initiates sex.

And how many paragraphs of it do you initiate, compared with the early days of your relationship?

FateReset · 04/11/2025 11:07

I suggest you avoid thinking you 'need' him to speak your 'love language' as this puts so much pressure on both of you. It also makes you sound rather controlling.

Marriage isn't about having your emotional needs met all the time. Just because he wrote poetry and organised dates during your courtship phase, doesn't mean he'll always have the energy/time/inclination to do it.

Instead of feeling sad, why not learn to appreciate other forms of 'love language' like physical affection, gentle gestures of care, routines you have together? If you're unable to feel loved once the honeymoon period ends, ask yourself if you're willing to adapt and actually try to do this day to day, rather than abandoning your marriage (and him) so quickly. It sounds as if you felt loved while he was chasing you and putting lots of effort into the chase. Once you settle down and make a life together, you both express love differently. Telling him he has to pretend he's still in that courtship phase is unkind and a bit sad. It's fine to be vulnerable, but healing from past trauma involves you putting in an effort to move forward, not just expecting others to adapt.

ldnelegantelephant · 04/11/2025 11:49

moderate · 04/11/2025 10:40

And how many paragraphs of it do you initiate, compared with the early days of your relationship?

Why are you still on my post? Do you thrive off of bullying? I got the fucking point from the other commenters and have said that multiple times. You keep trying to prove a point and wasting your time. Move on.

OP posts:
moderate · 04/11/2025 12:12

ldnelegantelephant · 04/11/2025 11:49

Why are you still on my post? Do you thrive off of bullying? I got the fucking point from the other commenters and have said that multiple times. You keep trying to prove a point and wasting your time. Move on.

I'm still on your post because you haven't got the point at all, as your defensiveness here really emphasises.

If you don't like home truths, don't come on AIBU.

ldnelegantelephant · 04/11/2025 12:54

moderate · 04/11/2025 12:12

I'm still on your post because you haven't got the point at all, as your defensiveness here really emphasises.

If you don't like home truths, don't come on AIBU.

No I actually do like receiving criticism which is why I agreed with them and the issue is now squashed with DH and I. I am not defensive, I am getting annoyed with you not leaving my post and constantly finding new things to say and new things to criticise.

OP posts:
AquaForce · 04/11/2025 12:58

FrodoBiggins · 03/11/2025 15:15

Lol right. I make my DH his lunch and shag him too. I also pay the mortgage and don't threaten to divorce him because I want poetry😂

You're spoiling him 😂❤

moderate · 04/11/2025 13:02

ldnelegantelephant · 04/11/2025 12:54

No I actually do like receiving criticism which is why I agreed with them and the issue is now squashed with DH and I. I am not defensive, I am getting annoyed with you not leaving my post and constantly finding new things to say and new things to criticise.

Do I keep saying and criticising new things (as you claim here) or do I keep trying to make the same point (as you claimed in your previous post)?

Make your mind up.

Anyway, I'm done with you. Best of luck to your husband, and goodbye.

OneKhakiFish · 04/11/2025 13:09

His actions speak louder than empty words a lot of men say because they feel they have to as it makes their OH happy. He sound nearly perfect but no-one is. This would not be divorce for me, I'd try to find a hobby we could do together or just accept that you need to be the one that arranges dates, you are far better at arranging them, your DH sounds a great guy

Caleb64 · 04/11/2025 13:12

Oh girl…. You need to borrow a man for a bit to see how low the bar is, this one is a unicorn. Do not divorce him.

KimTheresPeopleThatAreDying · 04/11/2025 13:19

You sound like a demanding, spoilt nightmare. By all means divorce him if you think that 99% perfect isn’t good enough but you won’t find better. He sounds like a decent man. Things don’t stay exactly the same as time goes on, that’s normal.

BunnyLake · 04/11/2025 13:51

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 16:29

Been doing it for years.

Why not just see it as your job as he’s not good at it? You expect him to fulfil all your wants and needs that you can’t fulfil for yourself, so you can do this thing that he has trouble with in return. It’s not even like this job can’t be fun for you.

Zempy · 04/11/2025 13:57

Is anyone else wondering how beautiful OP must be to have secured such a lovely bloke, considering her personality…

Lifealwaysgetsbetter · 04/11/2025 14:05

ldnelegantelephant · 04/11/2025 11:49

Why are you still on my post? Do you thrive off of bullying? I got the fucking point from the other commenters and have said that multiple times. You keep trying to prove a point and wasting your time. Move on.

If this is how you speak to people, maybe he’s just fed up of your attitude. Just a thought. Maybe he’s doesn’t have anything positive to say ir want to go on a date with you if you’re whiny or aggressive if not hearing what you want?

NamelessNancy · 04/11/2025 14:13

Fucking hell, this love language thing sounds exhausting!

BunnyLake · 04/11/2025 16:54

Zempy · 04/11/2025 13:57

Is anyone else wondering how beautiful OP must be to have secured such a lovely bloke, considering her personality…

Yup 😁

BunnyLake · 04/11/2025 16:55

NamelessNancy · 04/11/2025 14:13

Fucking hell, this love language thing sounds exhausting!

I only speak gobbledegook. Probably why my love life’s been a disaster.

croydon15 · 04/11/2025 22:27

You are very bu nobody is perfect, you have a very good man perhaps you think that you are perfect and will find someone better. You are crazy

Scoffingbiscuits · 05/11/2025 00:30

BunnyLake · 04/11/2025 16:54

Yup 😁

We REALLY need a photo.