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To divorce or overreacting?

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ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 10:17

I’d really appreciate some perspective because I can’t tell if I’m overreacting or if this is something serious enough to end a marriage over.

I have been married to my husband for a couple of years and he’s a really good man. He provides for me financially even though I work full time, he’s never been abusive in any way (emotionally, mentally, financially, etc.), and he defends me strongly, even cut off some family members because of how they treated me. He treats my family with a lot of respect, and he’s physically affectionate. Hugs, kisses, cuddles- physical touch is definitely his love language.

He spends all his time with me, which I love in some ways. He doesn’t really go out much, he’s a total homebody. When he’s not working, he just wants to be home with me. We hang out a lot- watching movies, playing video games, or just relaxing together. He has close friends, but mostly interacts with them online or by phone. He’s not very social outside the house, which has never really been a huge problem for me.

The issue, and it’s been going on for years now, is that he just doesn’t express love through words or through effortful gestures like planning dates.
Before marriage, he used to constantly tell me how lucky he was, how much he appreciated me, how he loved me, and he would plan things for us. That’s actually one of the main reasons I married him. I need reassurance and verbal affection to feel loved. Now, yes he tells me he loves me every day (at night before we sleep, in the morning before work), but he is not as vocal as he used to be. He even used to send me paragraphs expressing his love for me.

Now I’m the one planning every date. If I didn’t plan them, we literally wouldn’t go out. When I bring it up, he says he’ll “try,” but even when I suggest something really minimal like “just one date night a month,” he’ll say “I’ll try” instead of actually committing. He'll then do it once or twice and then we will go months where he does not plan any dates before the issue is raised again.

It breaks my heart because I feel like I’ve been so clear about what I need, and it’s not even something huge or expensive. I’m not asking for daily gifts or over-the-top romance- just small verbal reassurances, compliments, and some effort to plan things so I feel seen and wanted. In his mind he can't see why I have an issue with being the one who plans all the dates, but I want it to be a shared thing and I want to feel like he wants to plan things and do fun things together. BTW he pays always. Not sure if that adds anything.

He’s not cruel or dismissive, like I said he says he loves me, and I know he does in his own way. But this is starting to really affect me. When I tried to tell him that, he said something that really hurt- that he “doesn’t think he has it in him” to give me what I need. Later he backtracked, but honestly I don’t think asking for one date night a month is too much.

So now I’m stuck wondering:
Am I being unreasonable for wanting this?
Would you take this as something that could be worked on, or do you think divorce is needed?

I love him, and we have a peaceful marriage but I feel unhappy with these two things. I honestly don’t know if this is fixable or if I should start accepting that this might be the rest of my life if I stay. He has now begged me to give him a chance to try but I don't know how many chances I need to give for something so minimal.

PS before anyone suggests- he is a very loyal person. We have access to each other's phones, accounts etc. so I know that he is not doing anything shady or cheating. Just want to put this out there before any potential comments.

OP posts:
Diarygirlqueen · 03/11/2025 10:42

You sound really hard work and that you don't love him.
It's OK to separate if you're not happy.
I think most women would be very happy with what you have, he deserves better.

Starrystarrysky · 03/11/2025 10:42

There's a great concept I picked up from Esther Perel, of the person who is 'better' at something taking that on for the couple. So instead of thinking 'he doesn't do dates', reframe it as 'I am the one in our relationship who brings the fun and the activities and that's what is great about me' and then go plan lots of fun!

My advice would be different if he was coming across as generally uncaring. But unless there are drip-feeds coming he's one of the good ones. Don't throw that away just because you're not identical people.

MagpiesAreBastards · 03/11/2025 10:46

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 10:36

I know this and I spend a lot of money on therapy to work on this

So how will divorcing him help you?

It reads as if you want the honeymoon phase of your relationship to last forever, to be put on a pedestal and adored, which is simply unrealistic.

noidea69 · 03/11/2025 10:47

I mean blimey, come on. Ok, he is crap at planning dates, but sounds like he is very much besotted with you, surely his behaviour rather what he says (even though he says i love multiple times a day) demonstrates his love for you.

Personally i think you are a bit bored with the homebody life.

You will get a massive massive shock if you divorce and start dating again.

noidea69 · 03/11/2025 10:49

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 10:37

My love language is words of affirmation. He knows this since day one.

and he tells you he loves you everyday.

Not sure if i'm missing something here.

TheAlcott · 03/11/2025 10:50

SwordToFlamethrower · 03/11/2025 10:39

He used to do these things and now he doesn't. I don't blame you for feeling ignored, he's changed. He's also not being honest with you and that's also a problem.

No, he arranged 'dates' when they were 'dating'.

They're now married, and 'date nights' when married are daft social media bullshit, especially when the relationship is good on all other levels AND the couple spend a ton of time together anyway.

i advise you to get off Instagram and count your blessings, OP. It sounds as if you have a decent bloke there, don't ruin it over one small difference.

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 10:51

Starrystarrysky · 03/11/2025 10:42

There's a great concept I picked up from Esther Perel, of the person who is 'better' at something taking that on for the couple. So instead of thinking 'he doesn't do dates', reframe it as 'I am the one in our relationship who brings the fun and the activities and that's what is great about me' and then go plan lots of fun!

My advice would be different if he was coming across as generally uncaring. But unless there are drip-feeds coming he's one of the good ones. Don't throw that away just because you're not identical people.

Thank you for your reply this was helpful for me to think about

OP posts:
Zempy · 03/11/2025 10:51

This is your BPD talking. Tell it to STFU

Pancakeflipper · 03/11/2025 10:51

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 10:33

Edit: I know he is a good man that is why I said so in my post and I was honest about his good traits. The issue is feeling emotionally empty or that my needs are not listened to. Planning one date a month is such a simple gesture that he knows will make me soooo happy but yet he doesn't do it.

I wonder, if he did start doing this, would you find something else to feel unhappy and insecure about?

Squirrrel · 03/11/2025 10:55

You are very needy, may be looking into why that's the case that finding fault in your husband who sounds pretty much sorted.

ADHDwifeHP · 03/11/2025 10:55

My DH is exactly like this. We’ve been married 16 years and it’s annoying but in the greater scheme of things his positive attributes far out way the few negatives but I do very much understand how frustrating this is as am still waiting for a date 😂 16 years later … we’ve recently discussed this again and he’s “going to try to plan one” 😂 I can sort of laugh at it now but also 🤯he has adhd so that’s definitely a factor but 🫠

Sunshineandoranges · 03/11/2025 10:56

I am not religious at all but read whatever marriage vows you made...did they mean anything.

Takingbackmylife · 03/11/2025 10:58

I think you’re expecting too much. Sounds like he already spends every single evening with you as he doesn’t leave the house much, I think you’re asking for a lot! Maybe he’s used to being with you all the time, he doesn’t feel the need for grand gestures? Also, you’re married now… you live together, he doesn’t need to send paragraphs declaring his love!

mediummumma · 03/11/2025 10:58

Kindly OP, this is a you problem. Of course your relationship will have changed over the years, it is supposed to. You seem to want the gestures and efforts of a newer romance when instead you have a loving, caring husband who has neither time nor energy to reassure you. To end, what by your account, is a good marriage, for the lack of your DH planning 12 dates, sounds ridiculous. More work is needed on your self-esteem and expectations of others.

user1492809438 · 03/11/2025 10:59

BPD and anxiety are not excuses for behaving like a spoilt princess. How go you think your husband feels, that he can never do enough to please you? You have some serious growing up to do.

johntorodesfatcheeks · 03/11/2025 11:00

Anyone can tell you they love you and take you on a date night
real love is anything but those things and when you have a man that shows you and has shown you what truly loving someone really means it would be wise to remember that

2024onwardsandup · 03/11/2025 11:00

Why do you expect him to pay for everything when you work full time too? It sounds like you have massively dysfunctional ideas of a relationship. Keep going with your therapy - this is a you problem not a him problem.

Kerrylass · 03/11/2025 11:01

You sound like you have an anxious attachment personality. You are insecure because of your past and as a result you are seeking reassurances constantly in your relationship. This, while understandable, is nonetheless exhausting for your partner.

Your husband shows you love by being present in your marriage, he tells you everyday he loves you - why dont you believe him?

ThatCyanCat · 03/11/2025 11:01

Do you actually feel unloved?

Nanny0gg · 03/11/2025 11:02

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 10:30

Yes. I have BPD and anxiety. I am in therapy for these.

Well just be careful what you wish for

And I wonder what your husband would say?

Strangesally20 · 03/11/2025 11:02

Yes you should leave him. If a man who showers you with attention and by your own admission tells you he loves you every day, pays for every date night out isn’t good enough you should leave and let him find someone else. You obviously do not love him if you would consider leaving for something as petty as this. You’ve said yourself he’s a homebody and enjoys being home with YOU. It’s you who wants the date nights he’s happy being at home so why shouldn’t you plan them? What do you do for him?

divorcinganabsolutewanker · 03/11/2025 11:02

Oh get rid OP and send him my way, asking for a friend as I have a wonderful partner.

JudgeJ · 03/11/2025 11:03

Refreshing0 · 03/11/2025 10:31

Divorce he needs someone less needy.

All his fault for growing up!

EuclidianGeometryFan · 03/11/2025 11:04

ldnelegantelephant · 03/11/2025 10:33

Edit: I know he is a good man that is why I said so in my post and I was honest about his good traits. The issue is feeling emotionally empty or that my needs are not listened to. Planning one date a month is such a simple gesture that he knows will make me soooo happy but yet he doesn't do it.

I need reassurance and verbal affection to feel loved. Now, yes he tells me he loves me every day (at night before we sleep, in the morning before work), but he is not as vocal as he used to be.

The issue is feeling emotionally empty or that my needs are not listened to.

There is a black hole of emptiness and neediness in you, that sucks in every scrap of attention and always wants more. He will never, ever be able to fill up your needs. Nothing he can do will make you feel better for long.

Nor is it his job to fill that hole. That is not what relationships are for.

This is your problem, and yours alone, to tackle.
I am so sorry you are carrying this burden. But no-one else can help you except yourself.
You have to accept that it is up to you to heal that feeling of being emotionally empty - just you, alone.

One trick is to concentrate on what you are giving, not what you are getting. Because giving to others feels good.
Each day or week, count the number of times you give to other people (time, energy, attention, friendship, good deeds, favours, listening, etc., not money).
Then every week make sure you keep on giving.

Happyjoe · 03/11/2025 11:04

While it's lovely to have a big romantic gesture now and then, I personally wouldn't divorce over the lack of it if everything else is ok. But, we all have different expectations and tolerance levels. Personally I'd just taken on the role of suggesting dates/days out together and see if he fancies going. The result is the same, you end up on a fun day out.

Tbh, the fact you said he is a homebody makes me think he's not too keen to go out, which may be behind the lack of planning. It's that bit I would find hard, being with someone 24/7 would be personally suffocating.