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To be sick of people moaning about their pets and fireworks?

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Sophiehoney · 02/11/2025 20:28

There's currently a debate on my local Facebook page as the people in the street behind me let off a long, spectacular firework display in their back garden which was very loud.
It was absolutely brilliant and my kids loved it.

Someone has moaned that her four cats are terrified and others are joining in and saying their cats/dogs are also distressed.

They are all saying they should have had a warning?? Even though it's the weekend before bonfire night??

But what really annoys me is that if you click on this woman's name and see all her past posts, she's moaned about the same bloody thing at the same time of year for the past SIX years!!!

Why has she done nothing to prepare for this even though she knows full well it happens around the same time??!!!

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maddening · 05/11/2025 10:57

However I agree that there should be zones where fireworks are not allowed - eg for wellbeng of wildlife and farm animals rather than domesticated animals which can be trained.

PersephonePomegranate · 05/11/2025 10:59

Pricelessadvice · 02/11/2025 23:03

Gosh, I’d better return that grammar school education and masters degree at once! I can’t understand the random, poorly articulated ramblings of a Mumsnet poster (who had to edit a bit on to her post when she realised it made no sense..!)

I'd suggest you swap them for some humility. Why are you so intent on trying to make out other people are stupid for not agreeing with you? Your posts come across as very arsey and conceited.

Just out of curiosity, are you keeping your undergraduate degree, then? That doesn't get a mention, just your coveted grammar school education and post grad degree.

Sunflower459 · 05/11/2025 11:04

maddening · 05/11/2025 10:57

However I agree that there should be zones where fireworks are not allowed - eg for wellbeng of wildlife and farm animals rather than domesticated animals which can be trained.

They’ve started doing that in Edinburgh and some parts of Glasgow because of the anti-social behaviour associated with fireworks. I’m fed up of it, honestly. I don’t object to fireworks and my dog couldn’t give a shit, but every night for three months is taking the piss, no matter how much you like fireworks and/or dislike dogs.

BettysRoasties · 05/11/2025 11:41

DontCallMeLenYouLittleBollix · 04/11/2025 08:09

The noise is part of what people enjoy and value, which means solely silent displays is not one of the options we are currently choosing from. In the same way that modifying pet ownership models in order to be less environmentally disastrous clearly isn't on the cards right now.

I mentioned upthread I'd like to see a move towards more organised displays, because although complaining pet owners don't have a leg to stand on here, there are actually good reasons to do that.

With that in mind, hopefully everyone understands that in order to meet the cultural demand, there'd need to be a lot more displays than there are now. There might be one in the park over the road from your (general) house when there isn't now, for example. And they may have to be subsidised or even free, in order to make them a more attractive option than purchasing one's own, because obviously there are often other costs associated with travelling to attend an event. We'd need a conversation about where the money for that is coming from. These are all things that would have to be got right, in order to effect change.

I think you’d need to have each little area in a city having their own display because like you say you’ll always have people who won’t or can’t travel.

Then as you say they won’t be able to actually all be done the same night due to staffing issues. So you’d end up with fireworks going off for a week or two by the time each area is done for bonfire night and Diwali.

I don’t personally buy fireworks as so many get set off locally I don’t need to. I can look out from every angle of my property on day new years and see fireworks for hours. On that note I also wouldn’t pay to go stand cold in a field for 30 minutes of fireworks because why would I when I can sit in my warm house and watch them for free.

They are also used for a lot of weddings locally which I’d assume are classed as professional displays.

VickyEadieofThigh · 05/11/2025 11:46

Pollqueen · 02/11/2025 20:45

I don't get it. It's the same every year and every year people act surprised and horrified. You have plenty of notice so not sure why you're so shocked

Because as other have said, it's not just limited to November 5th. It started round here on 29th October, has been every night since and if last year is anything to go by, will carry on for some time after tonight. Then we'll get it again around Xmas and New Year. Then there are the entirely unpredictable birthday, etc fireworks going off all year.

MummytoE · 05/11/2025 12:44

All these people exaggerating saying fireworks go on for months and months where they live.... Yeah right 🤣

RoseAlone · 05/11/2025 12:48

Your neighbour is a selfish so and so. Hopefully someone reports them to the police for animal cruelty, causing a disturbance, noise abatement or whatever it's possible to warn her on. You just seem selfish and completely heartless!

Sunflower459 · 05/11/2025 13:18

MummytoE · 05/11/2025 12:44

All these people exaggerating saying fireworks go on for months and months where they live.... Yeah right 🤣

Don’t know what to tell you. They start in September here, through to New Year’s. Wish I lived somewhere where that wasn’t true.

SleeplessInWherever · 05/11/2025 13:32

Sunflower459 · 05/11/2025 13:18

Don’t know what to tell you. They start in September here, through to New Year’s. Wish I lived somewhere where that wasn’t true.

Every night relentlessly or just the occasional one or two?

We’ve had very sporadic bangs probably for the last few weeks, more regular over last weekend and I’d imagine the upcoming one, and obviously today is bonfire night.

But we definitely haven’t had full displays and all that comes with it every single day.

Sunflower459 · 05/11/2025 13:44

SleeplessInWherever · 05/11/2025 13:32

Every night relentlessly or just the occasional one or two?

We’ve had very sporadic bangs probably for the last few weeks, more regular over last weekend and I’d imagine the upcoming one, and obviously today is bonfire night.

But we definitely haven’t had full displays and all that comes with it every single day.

Sporadic in September. By late October it’s literally every night, albeit at infrequent intervals. Beginning of November it’s relentless. Sporadic end of November/beginning December, late December relentless. They let them off in the early hours (a neighbour is having a hell of a time with her little girl getting woken up by them), and even in the day time. I think the salient point here is that there are a lot of folk saying pet owners (who aren’t the only ones who object to the excess, incidentally) should plan better. I’m sure you can see that it’s pretty hard to plan under such circumstances. I’m lucky that my dog isn’t bothered. It goes hand in hand with other types of anti-social behaviour around our way, sadly. The people setting the things off are not doing so safely or responsibly. I accept that different areas will have different experiences.

SleeplessInWherever · 05/11/2025 13:54

Sunflower459 · 05/11/2025 13:44

Sporadic in September. By late October it’s literally every night, albeit at infrequent intervals. Beginning of November it’s relentless. Sporadic end of November/beginning December, late December relentless. They let them off in the early hours (a neighbour is having a hell of a time with her little girl getting woken up by them), and even in the day time. I think the salient point here is that there are a lot of folk saying pet owners (who aren’t the only ones who object to the excess, incidentally) should plan better. I’m sure you can see that it’s pretty hard to plan under such circumstances. I’m lucky that my dog isn’t bothered. It goes hand in hand with other types of anti-social behaviour around our way, sadly. The people setting the things off are not doing so safely or responsibly. I accept that different areas will have different experiences.

I just feel that the times that are relentless (they are here too) are the times you’d expect it to be. Reasonably expect it to be.

Early November is bonfire night. End of December is NYE. That can be planned for, it happens every year.

I don’t say that without understanding the consequences- as I mentioned earlier, we’ve got a severely autistic noise sensitive child. But surely it would be unreasonable of me to not expect noise disturbances around those two, very well known, events?

We don’t do anything for bonfire night, for very obvious reasons, but if I did - I’d do it at a weekend, because if I’m disrupting any nighttime/after school routine it’d be the weekend one!

Sunflower459 · 05/11/2025 14:06

SleeplessInWherever · 05/11/2025 13:54

I just feel that the times that are relentless (they are here too) are the times you’d expect it to be. Reasonably expect it to be.

Early November is bonfire night. End of December is NYE. That can be planned for, it happens every year.

I don’t say that without understanding the consequences- as I mentioned earlier, we’ve got a severely autistic noise sensitive child. But surely it would be unreasonable of me to not expect noise disturbances around those two, very well known, events?

We don’t do anything for bonfire night, for very obvious reasons, but if I did - I’d do it at a weekend, because if I’m disrupting any nighttime/after school routine it’d be the weekend one!

I mean, Bonfire Night is 5th November. NYE is 31st December. THAT can be planned for, sure. I’m not sure how practical it is to expect people to plan for weeks of disruption before and after those dates, that’s all. I wonder, based on some of the comments on this thread, whether it is just exceptionally bad round our way. I know all of my immediate neighbours—dog owners, dog loathers, parents, old folk—are just fed up with it all now. There’ll be no novelty to it tonight whatsoever. And none of us are crusaders against fireworks, or in favour of sweeping bans or anything like that. We’d just like a bit of compromise: just some sensible limits acknowledging the fact that we all have to live alongside one another in a built-up area. But then I’m someone who picks up her dog’s foul and doesn’t spit in the street or put her feet on the seats on the train. Perhaps I’m just naive and selfishness really is the only answer to selfishness.

TheWonderhorse · 05/11/2025 14:24

I don't think people should be allowed them for at home displays, I think public ones are best.

My dog doesn't like them and (weirdly) barks at the sky but that's not why I dislike them. It's because they're set off in parks leaving litter and in housing estates in the early hours of the morning.

I think I might compromise on a window say 6:30-9:30pm on a given date that home displays are allowed. Pet owners and others bothered will then only have a 3hr window to prepare for.

SleeplessInWherever · 05/11/2025 15:06

Sunflower459 · 05/11/2025 14:06

I mean, Bonfire Night is 5th November. NYE is 31st December. THAT can be planned for, sure. I’m not sure how practical it is to expect people to plan for weeks of disruption before and after those dates, that’s all. I wonder, based on some of the comments on this thread, whether it is just exceptionally bad round our way. I know all of my immediate neighbours—dog owners, dog loathers, parents, old folk—are just fed up with it all now. There’ll be no novelty to it tonight whatsoever. And none of us are crusaders against fireworks, or in favour of sweeping bans or anything like that. We’d just like a bit of compromise: just some sensible limits acknowledging the fact that we all have to live alongside one another in a built-up area. But then I’m someone who picks up her dog’s foul and doesn’t spit in the street or put her feet on the seats on the train. Perhaps I’m just naive and selfishness really is the only answer to selfishness.

Bonfire night is the 5th November, but speaking about my own family - the public displays are bang on dinner/bath/bedtime, it’s a school night, and midweek late nights don’t work for us one bit. We’ve got a super strict after school routine and I would save the disruption for a weekend.

I can actually wrap my head around people doing stuff either side of the actual event, because there’s no way we’d be either standing in a field or doing a garden event at 7pm on a Wednesday.

We need to get an autistic kid to sleep in amongst the fireworks tonight, so I get the inconvenience completely, I just don’t feel like our inconvenience trumps other people’s right to do things in their own gardens etc. It’s not their problem that he’s autistic.

celandiney · 05/11/2025 18:18

I think fireworks should be quiet..
Most of them used to be,and the ones that weren't were not like modern fireworks, the artillery attack effect.
And amazingly they were still great, people still enjoyed them,firework displays were popular etc etc

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 05/11/2025 18:25

Weirdly - it’s now the 5th and I’ve not heard one yet! Maybe too early. Yet we’ve had it most nights for a week. 😂

anainlondon · 05/11/2025 20:33

How to educate if compassion is lacking? Its not only people and pets but wildlife.. Constant bombardment of fire works every day for months.. how is that acceptable unless you have lived and thrive in a warzone?

DontCallMeLenYouLittleBollix · 05/11/2025 20:42

Well, people don't seem very receptive to education about the terrible impact pets have on wildlife, or show much compassion about it. So I'm not sure you can expect a different outcome with fireworks. The most effective tactic would be to do all you can to promote more displays.

AmberRose86 · 05/11/2025 20:58

Marchitectmummy · 03/11/2025 03:51

The amount of fireworks and the times they are let off has increased every year. When I was young fireworks were sold for a very limited time in supermarkets and then gone. People didn't tend to buy them and keep them for another occasion as they would get damp outside and would risk explosion inside

That's different now, and I think that's the problem. People let them off for a death, a birth, a birthday it's constant that someone thinks it's a great idea to explode toxic rubbish into the air.

I would like to see them either increasing in cost to £500 per firework or keep them just to public displays. That would turn them into a luxury, reduce the use and mindlessness of them.

My neighbours dog jumped out of their bedroom window earlier this year and broke his back due to fear or fireworks. He was crying in fear before he made that decision to try to escape it and had to be put down as a result. But good for all of you who love them and think pets should just cope.

Thats a very sad story…but why was her window wide open on fireworks night if her dog is that scared? 🫤

AmberRose86 · 05/11/2025 21:00

PersephonePomegranate · 05/11/2025 10:59

I'd suggest you swap them for some humility. Why are you so intent on trying to make out other people are stupid for not agreeing with you? Your posts come across as very arsey and conceited.

Just out of curiosity, are you keeping your undergraduate degree, then? That doesn't get a mention, just your coveted grammar school education and post grad degree.

It’s crap. They think “in case” is one word.

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 05/11/2025 21:11

AmberRose86 · 05/11/2025 20:58

Thats a very sad story…but why was her window wide open on fireworks night if her dog is that scared? 🫤

Firstly, open window. Risky and ill advised
Secondly. It isn’t proportionate that no one can have fireworks because animals get scared.

mydogisthebest · 06/11/2025 08:03

MummytoE · 05/11/2025 12:44

All these people exaggerating saying fireworks go on for months and months where they live.... Yeah right 🤣

In lots of areas they do. Just because you are lucky enough to live somewhere they don't.

mydogisthebest · 06/11/2025 08:06

AmberRose86 · 05/11/2025 20:58

Thats a very sad story…but why was her window wide open on fireworks night if her dog is that scared? 🫤

Where does it say the window was open on fireworks night. It says "earlier this year". Read the post properly before you jump in with stupid comments

mydogisthebest · 06/11/2025 08:06

CoffeeLipstickKeys · 05/11/2025 21:11

Firstly, open window. Risky and ill advised
Secondly. It isn’t proportionate that no one can have fireworks because animals get scared.

Another idiot who can't read

AmberRose86 · 06/11/2025 08:08

whatever. Sitting with your window wide open while your dog shakes with fear at the noisy fireworks isn’t exactly advisable.

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