Not an ordinary working person if you earn over 45k

[TesChique]

Disincentivising anyone to strive to earn over 45k a year is a bizarre strategy for growth i feel

Aibu?

I agree.

Want better services, let’s all pay.

You can’t raise a lot more money from a bigger base of people. Everything else is just moving deckchairs really.

Guernsey's great.

I agree with @AndSoFinally they should add a penny to each tax band.

That's actually the only thing that will really make a difference nation-wide.

You can all act like everyone earns over 45k, but the majority of people don't. Maybe you should all be better with your money. Live in a flat, get rid of your car. Instead of telling us poorer people to work more or get on our bikes.

Awful, this is a terrible government. What about a single parent/adult on £50-60k vs a dual income house on £40k each? They always forget this when they increase taxes to punish 'higher earners'.

Do you honestly believe that giving the government or NHS any more money is going to help anything at all?

Spats perpetuated by Labour through shite comms of classifying people as "working" or not. They ran the election on divisive populist slogans and have continued doing it whilst in power.
They are purposely stirring up division and class warfare through their shitty slogans.
They are continually creating tension and stoking animosity yet simultaneously hold themselves up to be supporters of reason and inclusion.

It is absolutely more complicated than just raising money, yes.

We also need to cut spending - dramatically.

But people have huge expectations around what the state will deliver while paying little tax - the government is going to raise the money to meet its obligations somehow, and I think that needs to be from everyone.

The problem with that is, we aren't paying little tax...

I do live in a flat, and would happily give up my car for a bike if I wasn’t too disabled to ride one.

Perhaps the people who rely on Universal Credit should get better jobs rather than relying on the tax from disabled people to subsidise their living costs.

Indeed. Many people in this thread seem to live on a number planet, and I think this thread alone is proof that income does not positively correlate with intelligence.

Personally, I'm in disbelief at the posters who are responding to this thread with their mouths hanging open saying "huh...? there are people who earn less than £45k..?" Completely out of touch.

Thanks for posting the hard data, which should hopefully shut everyone up.

Exactly, because they are afraid of taxing the super rich.

So why not make the necessary cuts first? Show that they are serious about reducing national debt etc.
Why is the first action to increase taxing those who already foot the majority of the bill?

And why's that?

I agree with this at least.

Politicians always overlook the fact that single people, you know, exist.

Because they’re being held ransom by their backbenchers!

And it is that which will lose them the next election.

Hopefully!

No one is surprised that people earn less than that. We know how averages work. I'm a professional in my 40s and therefore those I'm surrounded with have decent salaries. The average for a 40something is mid-£40k

Sounds like lots of people commenting want to live in a communist society. Where higher earners are taxed to level down, and lower earners are given benefits to level up. Resulting in everyone having the same.

Low again like winter fuel payment.whst a load of nonsense.

Look forward to the govt meeting its obligations…

I earn just over that and have spent many years poor, I’ve now studied in my early 40s and increased my earnings - for the government to take more off me.

Yes.

I find it is people in the middle who are squeezed the worst. People who are on lower income will be able to claim child benefit, universal credit etc. But those who aren’t really high earners but still earn more than the threshold to claim end up feeling the pinch the most! Very unfair for people to not work and be able to claim so much that they get more than full time workers. And if the government now starts taxing full time workers in this bracket even more they will all leave and go elsewhere!

Why do they earn more? Because they study, train and learn to work at a higher and more responsible level which is more valuable to the organisation they work for. It's really not difficult to understand career progression

I mean my DS earns that as he's early on in his career. He started on a bit less and then after a year he negotiated to be £30k as others has started on this amount and he thought it was unfair. (Others had started on £30-£32k)

My DS read an employable numerate degree at a top university and then did a masters in that subject after. He won't be spending his life as a cleaner, barista or working in a shop.

Intelligence, opportunity, life events, good fortune.
Earning capacity is not just down to hard work.