Not an ordinary working person if you earn over 45k

[TesChique]

Disincentivising anyone to strive to earn over 45k a year is a bizarre strategy for growth i feel

Aibu?

Have you been job hunting recently? Loads and loads of jobs paying minimum wage yet asking for a degree and lots of experience.

45K is NOT a pittance. You can run a household with children on 45K - I have done it (lone parent).

Welcome to living in the upper 30% of rich people.

Only 30% of people who are full-time workers (so this specifically excludes all part-time workers, those not working, retired etc who earn much less) earn over £47k.

As of April this year, the median pay for full-time workers (ie the 50% level) was £39,863. So, 50% of all full-time workers earn less than this amount.

[Source - Office for National Statistics: Employee earnings in the UK 2025, 23 Oct 2025]

£39,863 gives a take home pay (after tax, NI and auto-enrolled pension) of £2,573 per month

"Most people I know earn over £45k"

I have also read threads where people have commented things like "I don't know anybody who earns over £45k per year"

Health I totally understand. Physical disabilities and/or serious mental health issues. Caring for relatives yes I understand. Economic conditions I understand (for a bit) but you can't blame the economy for absolutely everything.

At some point you can't just blame everyone else and take responsibilities. Are you telling me you've tried to upskill again nothing goes in?

In that case if you can only do physical labour, do multiple different jobs. Do Uber. Do retail. Ask for more shifts. Use apps and find temporary labour. Be a builder, gas engineer or a plumber. This only applies if you're healthy bodied and can take charge of your own future and build your own success. So I understand if you're disabled.

Up hours. People do 80 hours.

168 hours in a week. If you work 80, sleep 8 hours a day there's still 32 hours for relaxing and unwinding.

So Starmer and Reeves are no longer “working class” nor “working persons” either then? Quite a change in a year!

I mean WE know they aren't working

Well also remember that not everyone who earns lots of money, is bright. There are many (many) who were more lucky than anything else.

Perhaps there will be an exception if your father was a toolmaker, or whatever he kept going on about in the run up to the election!

Whereas ‘have a biscuit’ was a good faith and reasonable response? Ok hun.

And we know that Reeves isn’t spending her time on admin.

Logically therefore, Starmer’s father made tools.

But, I thought that tools were meant to have utility?

Tools yes, bollards no

😂

Got it, thanks.

You want people to work 80 hours a week? How about a minimum wage people can live on? Who is going to serve your coffee if everyone up skills?

What are you talking about? Early careers? Do you know that a massive amount of people in this country earn 30k or less? They clean your offices, they serve your drinks, they sell you things in shops. Fuck me!

Earning under £200k a year is not wealthy in London

People who don’t work.

That’s the train and tube drivers out then.

I thought a lot of people who don’t work also don’t vote

I wish they’d just add 1% to all the tax bands

At least it’d stop all this horrible in-fighting between groups over who deserves to be taxed more.

There are very few people in this country who feel well off, it’s just spats between the poor and the marginally less poor now

But the downside is having to live and work in Guernsey. 🫩

This is MN.

I think disabled children fair. But shouldn't your DH be trying to increase his income?