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To be surprised Andrew has lost his Prince title

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Viviennemary · 30/10/2025 20:01

I certainly think this is absolutely the right decision. But this has all been swept under the carpet for a long time with the usual head in the sand approach. If makes me think there might be more to come out. This wasn't just going to go away.

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llizzie · 07/11/2025 19:10

deeahgwitch · 07/11/2025 12:43

I was alluding to Earl Mountbatten

Did the new name Andrew now goes by whet your appetite for more scandal?

NeverDropYourMooncup · 07/11/2025 21:45

llizzie · 02/11/2025 15:38

Since you posted this, the talk on all channels is to do with the monarchy and how long it will last.

Do you know what faith the CEO and board of directors of the BBC are? There is a definite effort to eliminate the royal family. How does that make you feel? The 1701 Act of Settlement says the monarch on the British throne must be a Christian. King Charles is Supreme Ruler of the Church of England - the Anglican Church.

If Parliament repeals the Act, the monarch is replaced by a President and Britain will no longer be a predominantly Christian country. The Bishops in the House of Lords will never have a majority and any move Parliament makes to dissolve the 1701 Act will be passed by the House of Lords. It may take a few years.

What sort of President do you think Britain will have to replace King Charles and the Prince of Wales? Christians will not vote for that.

Oh, do go on. I'd love to hear exactly what faith the CEO and board of directors of the BBC are and how that directly relates to a 'definite effort to eliminate the royal family'.

Negroany · 08/11/2025 01:12

NeverDropYourMooncup · 07/11/2025 21:45

Oh, do go on. I'd love to hear exactly what faith the CEO and board of directors of the BBC are and how that directly relates to a 'definite effort to eliminate the royal family'.

Indeed. And the bit about bishops in the House of Lords 🙄

There are 26. I think there are over 800 peers now, they are so far from a majority, they are practically an irrelevance.

llizzie · 08/11/2025 01:19

NeverDropYourMooncup · 07/11/2025 21:45

Oh, do go on. I'd love to hear exactly what faith the CEO and board of directors of the BBC are and how that directly relates to a 'definite effort to eliminate the royal family'.

You can look them up on google. Nothing secret. I have been vindicated by the current accusations, which I have repeatedly accused them of doing on other sites for years.

It is a pity you disregard so much of the news that you cannot see a glimpse of the future. You don't have to take my word for it. Study the Middle East from the past 50 years and see for yourself how these countries were in constant conflict as Islamic extremists took over countries and changed the religion forever. The sad thing is that the ordinary muslims were slaughtered in their thousands by extremists fighting for control.

llizzie · 08/11/2025 01:53

deeahgwitch · 07/11/2025 12:43

I was alluding to Earl Mountbatten

I realise that, but word associations can cause a lot of trouble and misery. Id someone in the news was called Smith, or Jones etc., would you tar them all of that name with the same brush?

NumbersGuy · 08/11/2025 05:38

Well Andrew has been offered a palace in the UAE Andrew's Palace Offer by a billionaire sultan that he's had in his contacts for some years now, fully stocked, some 26k sq ft, two gated guarded entryways, etc. so it's not like he's going to be roughing it at Wood Farm anytime soon. Sarah's also coming out with her own memoir soon as well, so they're both going to land on their feet, royal titles aside. Cream and shite always rises to the top, and they both will always find a way to survive no matter what life throws at them. Charles will always look after him, but once William takes over, nothing will save either so it makes sense for both to be smart and leave the UK if possible. Especially since now they must bow in the presence of Eugenie and Beatrice now, which is beyond humiliating.

Prince Andrew Receives Home Offer From Billionaire Abroad — Report

The chatter around former Prince Andrew and Abu Dhabi ties intensified after a tabloid report suggested a lavish overseas offer. Andrew Mountbatten Windsor received an apparent invitation to base himself in the UAE, according to royal watchers. The for...

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/articles/prince-andrew-receives-home-offer-151542663.html

NeverDropYourMooncup · 08/11/2025 11:45

llizzie · 08/11/2025 01:19

You can look them up on google. Nothing secret. I have been vindicated by the current accusations, which I have repeatedly accused them of doing on other sites for years.

It is a pity you disregard so much of the news that you cannot see a glimpse of the future. You don't have to take my word for it. Study the Middle East from the past 50 years and see for yourself how these countries were in constant conflict as Islamic extremists took over countries and changed the religion forever. The sad thing is that the ordinary muslims were slaughtered in their thousands by extremists fighting for control.

But how would I know if I'm reading a reliable source? And what would that say about a deliberate attempt to end the royal family?

You say you know this stuff and have been completely vindicated - so please, tell me what the faith is of the BBC CEO and the faiths of the board members and explain how this is a relevant to them conspiring against the royal family.

llizzie · 08/11/2025 18:04

NeverDropYourMooncup · 08/11/2025 11:45

But how would I know if I'm reading a reliable source? And what would that say about a deliberate attempt to end the royal family?

You say you know this stuff and have been completely vindicated - so please, tell me what the faith is of the BBC CEO and the faiths of the board members and explain how this is a relevant to them conspiring against the royal family.

If you look up the BBC governors or whatever they call them now, you will get a list and google them separately. You are free to access any information in UK. That will change when people think they are being conned and vote for people who want to live under sharia law, and all the misery that entails in countries already there, and doomed. If you want evidence, look at the number of muslims fleeing those countries.

If you want to know anything factual you will get a truthful answer on Ai because it makes no sense to have Ai which gives the wrong names and positions.

If you want to continue to believe the BBC is worth watching, it is up to you. In Britain - at least for now - we are free to decide.

Now we know that the BBC is giving the wrong information. This is particularly true of Gaza, as well as the fake news of Trump's speech on 6/1/ when he lost the election to Biden. That caused people outside America to really think he was stirring up a fight.

The BBC reporting of Gaza was shocking. Their support of Arab and Asian states and hatred of Christianity and Jews is so obvious now. BBC reports made people believe the idf were killing Palestinians, when they were not. Now we know the truth. Hamas was doing to it's people what Assad did in Syria, Putin in Russia, Erdogan in Turkey and many more countries: they killed off their opposition. Hamas, like Assad, one an election and started killing those who opposed them. Putin has been doing that for years, just as most dictators have done in order to stay in office. President Ji was 're elected' because he was easily recognised in the world.

llizzie · 08/11/2025 18:15

NumbersGuy · 08/11/2025 05:38

Well Andrew has been offered a palace in the UAE Andrew's Palace Offer by a billionaire sultan that he's had in his contacts for some years now, fully stocked, some 26k sq ft, two gated guarded entryways, etc. so it's not like he's going to be roughing it at Wood Farm anytime soon. Sarah's also coming out with her own memoir soon as well, so they're both going to land on their feet, royal titles aside. Cream and shite always rises to the top, and they both will always find a way to survive no matter what life throws at them. Charles will always look after him, but once William takes over, nothing will save either so it makes sense for both to be smart and leave the UK if possible. Especially since now they must bow in the presence of Eugenie and Beatrice now, which is beyond humiliating.

I am not surprised. He is going to find himself surrounded by 'friends' terrified he will be persuaded to name and shame them, not realising he won't do that if he wants to keep his head on his shoulders.

If he had been proved to be bad in a court of law he would have been hounded to spill the beans on all sorts of people, but he has never been found guilty in a court, so he will be pursued by associates who are fearful he might pillow talk.

He has been misguided and used by people. In his teenage years he was chased by girls and women who couldn't wait to get him into bed. He had a few girlfriends. He was born in 1960. He grew up in a time of teenage girl crushes on all the pop music groups, screaming like banshees at the Beatles and other groups.

Poedophiles took advantage of that. Look at how actors got into films. The publicity of being famous rubbed off on all sorts of nefarious people during the 1960s and 70s. Look at the impact of the west on the Middle East. Half way through the 1980s those sharia law countries tightened up their rules, put their women in sackcloth and ashes, banned all sorts of music and entertainment and vowed to inflict their values on the rest of the world even if it meant killing Christians and Jews to do it. They are to blame for much of what is wrong in the world today.

Then came the era when famous people were pursued for other reasons - so they could sue them when in middle age they realised they didn't have much of a pension pot, and we are seeing the result of that.

llizzie · 08/11/2025 18:16

NumbersGuy · 08/11/2025 05:38

Well Andrew has been offered a palace in the UAE Andrew's Palace Offer by a billionaire sultan that he's had in his contacts for some years now, fully stocked, some 26k sq ft, two gated guarded entryways, etc. so it's not like he's going to be roughing it at Wood Farm anytime soon. Sarah's also coming out with her own memoir soon as well, so they're both going to land on their feet, royal titles aside. Cream and shite always rises to the top, and they both will always find a way to survive no matter what life throws at them. Charles will always look after him, but once William takes over, nothing will save either so it makes sense for both to be smart and leave the UK if possible. Especially since now they must bow in the presence of Eugenie and Beatrice now, which is beyond humiliating.

ps he would be very foolish to take up any offer involving a middle east country.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 08/11/2025 18:32

llizzie · 08/11/2025 18:04

If you look up the BBC governors or whatever they call them now, you will get a list and google them separately. You are free to access any information in UK. That will change when people think they are being conned and vote for people who want to live under sharia law, and all the misery that entails in countries already there, and doomed. If you want evidence, look at the number of muslims fleeing those countries.

If you want to know anything factual you will get a truthful answer on Ai because it makes no sense to have Ai which gives the wrong names and positions.

If you want to continue to believe the BBC is worth watching, it is up to you. In Britain - at least for now - we are free to decide.

Now we know that the BBC is giving the wrong information. This is particularly true of Gaza, as well as the fake news of Trump's speech on 6/1/ when he lost the election to Biden. That caused people outside America to really think he was stirring up a fight.

The BBC reporting of Gaza was shocking. Their support of Arab and Asian states and hatred of Christianity and Jews is so obvious now. BBC reports made people believe the idf were killing Palestinians, when they were not. Now we know the truth. Hamas was doing to it's people what Assad did in Syria, Putin in Russia, Erdogan in Turkey and many more countries: they killed off their opposition. Hamas, like Assad, one an election and started killing those who opposed them. Putin has been doing that for years, just as most dictators have done in order to stay in office. President Ji was 're elected' because he was easily recognised in the world.

So you're chatting the usual conspiracy bollocks, then.

Thanks for confirming that.

<laughs at the notion of AI bots being reliable sources>

mutinyonthetwix · 08/11/2025 18:37

llizzie · 08/11/2025 18:16

ps he would be very foolish to take up any offer involving a middle east country.

"Very foolish" would be an improvement on much of his recent behaviour unfortunately.

llizzie · 08/11/2025 21:28

NeverDropYourMooncup · 08/11/2025 18:32

So you're chatting the usual conspiracy bollocks, then.

Thanks for confirming that.

<laughs at the notion of AI bots being reliable sources>

No. If that is all you can come up with, I pity you.

llizzie · 08/11/2025 21:49

mutinyonthetwix · 08/11/2025 18:37

"Very foolish" would be an improvement on much of his recent behaviour unfortunately.

His life is in danger from those who think he has something to tell. I don't think he has anything useful to tell because I doubt he met half the people he was accused of associating with, but they don't know that, do they? The few who were seriously linked with Andrew are most likely dead. Mostly, outside the royal family, his associates were older than him.

Suspicion is dark and ugly. It festers in the mind.

Two people have taken their own lives. No one is absolutely sure why they did that. Some believe Epstein didn't make that decision on his own. Why did the woman kill herself? What did she have to lose? Why couldn't she live with herself when she was so successful? Now people are goading Andrew to do the same. Why should he? Foolish he was not to check up on the age of consent in America. In Britain, the age of consent for hetero and homosexual sex only went down to 16 took effect in 2001, in Ireland in 2008. In America it was 18.

I know Ms Giuffre was trafficked by Epstein, that was and is a criminal offence for which he was punished. I don't believe she told Andrew she was underage the first time, because even he wasn't so stupid as to have repeated two or three times. She wanted to bring down a Prince and she did. I doubt for one moment he would even have thought of the age. It is what happens when someone in the royal family, gets into something he was never brought up to know.

The American senators have bayed for his blood. They are convinced that they could persuade him to give revelations about Epstein, a dead man, who cannot confirm what anyone says about him now.

It is a ridiculous request, but what they have done is make a lot of people cast even more suspicions on Andrew. To my mind, he has been pursued enough. Why the family of the late Ms Giuffre keep pursuing him is a mystery too, since she too is dead and cannot confirm or deny. All we know about them is that they succeeded in ''bringing down a British prince''.

Because of these unreasonable demands by people who profess to know little more than was in the court hearings of Epstein and Maxwell, Andrew's life is in danger.

Job offers can be well meaning and protective, or they can be his gateway to death.

Negroany · 08/11/2025 21:51

If you want to know anything factual you will get a truthful answer on Ai because it makes no sense to have Ai which gives the wrong names and positions.

🤣🤣🤣

llizzie · 08/11/2025 23:14

deeahgwitch · 07/11/2025 08:32

I certainly didn’t link Andrew to Kincora @llizzie

Sorry

llizzie · 08/11/2025 23:17

Negroany · 08/11/2025 21:51

If you want to know anything factual you will get a truthful answer on Ai because it makes no sense to have Ai which gives the wrong names and positions.

🤣🤣🤣

You can always disseminate what Ai tells you and ask it more questions, such as adding something you didn't ask before.

If you do not believe what Ai says - and I have busted it a few times - you can turn your words around, or try another site.

llizzie · 08/11/2025 23:24

deeahgwitch · 07/11/2025 08:32

I certainly didn’t link Andrew to Kincora @llizzie

The inference was there. Word associations can be very dangerous and lead to more serious comments. You did not mention Lord Mountbatten and the thread is about Andrew Mountbatten. These are dangerous times.

deeahgwitch · 05/11/2025 11:20
Why have the allegations against Mountbatten and the Kincora Boys Home not been investigated properly ?

awkwardasfuck · 08/11/2025 23:46

llizzie · 08/11/2025 23:24

The inference was there. Word associations can be very dangerous and lead to more serious comments. You did not mention Lord Mountbatten and the thread is about Andrew Mountbatten. These are dangerous times.

deeahgwitch · 05/11/2025 11:20
Why have the allegations against Mountbatten and the Kincora Boys Home not been investigated properly ?

You are still talking complete nonsense what is wrong with you.
It's shameful.

deeahgwitch · 09/11/2025 00:48

Sincere apologies I still think of Andrew as Prince Andrew. It didn’t click with me re his “new title” / surname being used.
I really didn’t mean to confuse things.
I asked the question in the context of things / people not being investigated.

llizzie · 09/11/2025 01:14

awkwardasfuck · 08/11/2025 23:46

You are still talking complete nonsense what is wrong with you.
It's shameful.

I am not surprised with a username ending as it does, in bad language. I have to read that word and I don't like it, so if you want to converse with me, change it.

Why not tell me what you think is nonsense. Just because you don't agree or don't know, doesn't make it nonsense. Find another source of information that you agree with and that will make you happy. There is enough unhappiness in the world without your making more.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

ThatDreamyLemonBiscuit · 09/11/2025 01:34

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Janiie · 09/11/2025 07:55

He was brought up as a pampered Prince. Even decades ago he was referred to as the Playboy Prince or Randy Andy in the press. So his promiscuity was clearly well known then.

The question is why they didn't rein him in years ago.

I didn't think his behaviour would ever cause massive damage to the monarchy but I think we are now on the slippery slope to it. He will feel bitter and resentful. Look what happened with the last pissed off royal. I bet he'll do books and interviews and a whole load of skeletons will come clattering out of the closet.

awkwardasfuck · 09/11/2025 08:31

llizzie · 09/11/2025 01:14

I am not surprised with a username ending as it does, in bad language. I have to read that word and I don't like it, so if you want to converse with me, change it.

Why not tell me what you think is nonsense. Just because you don't agree or don't know, doesn't make it nonsense. Find another source of information that you agree with and that will make you happy. There is enough unhappiness in the world without your making more.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

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Change my username? Fuck off 🤣🤣🤣🤣

MannersAreAll · 09/11/2025 18:33

Janiie · 09/11/2025 07:55

He was brought up as a pampered Prince. Even decades ago he was referred to as the Playboy Prince or Randy Andy in the press. So his promiscuity was clearly well known then.

The question is why they didn't rein him in years ago.

I didn't think his behaviour would ever cause massive damage to the monarchy but I think we are now on the slippery slope to it. He will feel bitter and resentful. Look what happened with the last pissed off royal. I bet he'll do books and interviews and a whole load of skeletons will come clattering out of the closet.

I don't think he'll do so much as an interview without Charles and William's permission.

He's now completely beholden to them for his accommodation at sandringham for the rest of his life. Piss them off and there will be no more royal estate living.

I reckon the deal to move and have his accommodation privately funded and provided by the his brother, and later nephew, is very dependent on him now towing their line.

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