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What’s happening with food stamps in the US?

235 replies

OverDram · 30/10/2025 14:49

I’m seeing it all over social media. Has Trump stopped the equivalent of benefits?

Can someone explain please?

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TooBigForMyBoots · 31/10/2025 02:11

Starconundrum · 31/10/2025 01:48

I must confess I hadn't really looked into this.
I'm quite a lefty and into human rights but I figured America can look after Americans as theyre really wealthy. This is awful of me.

Of the 4 people I've asked tonight, 3 cited the woman with 7 kids by 7 fathers. So this is either a one off video that has gained traction or a propoganda video. One said it was disgusting that people got snap, but that she'd have issues feeding herself as she gets it 🤯

One of the men said it was a woman's job to feed the kids and of course father's and the state aren't accountable. A woman must feed her kids herself.

3 of these people are immigrants.
Of course this is a very small sample size, but all of the people claim to be leftist.

I can see why so many Americans believe that America might fall. I'm quite shocked tbh.

Thanks for that @Starconundrum. Sounds like bullshit propaganda. Misogynist claptrap and a world away from most recipients of SNAP.

Starconundrum · 31/10/2025 02:16

TooBigForMyBoots · 31/10/2025 02:11

Thanks for that @Starconundrum. Sounds like bullshit propaganda. Misogynist claptrap and a world away from most recipients of SNAP.

They're all people I know from forums.

I asked because of this thread, I didn't understand some of the views expressed on it. But it appearsbthey are common. They're all in new York state, but only one is the city. Hence me assuming they were lefty.

TooBigForMyBoots · 31/10/2025 02:18

Tryingtolikeyou · 31/10/2025 01:58

Whats not true.
Taking responsibility for the choices we make.
Choices we make are our responsibility.
Lucky i think we are we just dont see it.

You are lucky and you don't see it. Other women are not as lucky as you. Other women who've live different lives where they don't have choices.
Abused women.
Raped women.
Trafficked women.
Vulnerable women.
Disabled women.

You are aware of the statistics on VAWG, right?

WhatIsTheCharge · 31/10/2025 02:19

deararethymountains · 31/10/2025 01:31

Nah. The Dems have openly stated that the poor people will just have to go without. Even the far leftist Washington Post admits that the Dems have said poor people will just have to starve.

"The right answer is to reopen the government with a clean funding bill, ideally for a full year, to get food stamps flowing and federal workers back in the office, and then have a debate about ACA subsidies," the Post editorial said.

"Democrats openly acknowledge that they refuse to do this because it would mean giving up their leverage. If they persist, it could mean families start to go hungry."

Again:
Anyone who believes politicians on either side of the aisle gives a shit about us little people is on glue 🫠

Democrat or Republican, they all eat at the same table. They are still getting paid while all this is going on.

Ohhhh but what’s that looming in the distance??
Mid-Terms.
So yet again, Democrats and Republicans will do and say whatever they feel they need to in order to appeal to their voter base for the mid-terms, even if that means doing a massive U-Turn on issues they’ve always stood firm on.

Tryingtolikeyou · 31/10/2025 02:21

https://youtube.com/shorts/Gr8MAgvK-c?si=PdSIkKtqwpp4Fa3x

Starconundrum · 31/10/2025 02:23

Starconundrum · 31/10/2025 02:16

They're all people I know from forums.

I asked because of this thread, I didn't understand some of the views expressed on it. But it appearsbthey are common. They're all in new York state, but only one is the city. Hence me assuming they were lefty.

And they said they were left.

I just didn't think the left were so right...

If you see what I mean.

Dogaredabomb · 31/10/2025 02:26

I lived in the Midwest in the early 90s and I was shocked that it was absolutely 'normal' for anyone working for the state to not get paid for a couple of months in the summer. The bank would loan their pay to the workers who paid back the bank when the state caught up. I remember saying 'why hasn't Jennifer been paid?' and the response would be 'oh she works for the state' 🤷🏼‍♂️

coffeeccrisp · 31/10/2025 02:26

Tryingtolikeyou · 31/10/2025 02:21

https://youtube.com/shorts/Gr8MAgvK-c?si=PdSIkKtqwpp4Fa3x

It speaks for its self.

TooBigForMyBoots · 31/10/2025 02:27

I had a wee look and apparently 1, 1 person on the internet claims to have 7 children by 7 fathers and is receipt of $3000 of SNAP payments per month. Bear in mind SNAP can only be spent on certain things, that's a grand total of $12 and odd cents per person per day.

That is not a lot of money.

TooBigForMyBoots · 31/10/2025 02:30

Starconundrum · 31/10/2025 02:23

And they said they were left.

I just didn't think the left were so right...

If you see what I mean.

Of course they said they were left, leftist😵‍💫 and or immigrants.🙄

Arregaithel · 31/10/2025 02:40

Vox is an excellent resource for "unbiased" information

A background to SNAP (Food Stamp Program)

and impact of the government shutdown

TooBigForMyBoots · 31/10/2025 02:41

Here's who SNAP is for and why it's important. But its not just SNAP recipients impacted by the shutdown, it's everyone who works for the US government, suppliers to the US government and the further local economies that are losing business because their customers are struggling to eat, work, run a car or keep a roof over their heads

publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/what-is-snap-and-why-does-it-matter#:~:text=Averaging%20just%20a%20few%20dollars,and%20Health%20Policy%20and%20Management.

Starconundrum · 31/10/2025 02:48

TooBigForMyBoots · 31/10/2025 02:30

Of course they said they were left, leftist😵‍💫 and or immigrants.🙄

I don't understand this. I've met 3 of these 4 people. One is American/italian. One is native american, two are Latina.

I did say it was my problem for assuming. Though they have all said they're left. I just assumed more left.

flapjackfairy · 31/10/2025 02:50

Tryingtolikeyou · 31/10/2025 01:22

I have been looking on youtube at some of this omg.

Some need comdoms birth control and stop popping out kids.
sad part is some of these parents are scamming to get it and taking away from people that really do need the help.
Some women are saying they are going looting and will choose violence and rob homes. (good parenting that)

Its got to a point where others have had enough of paying the price for others.
Its like the uk in a way so many people claiming for sen kids when tbh their is nothing wrong with them.
It takes away the help and makes it harder for the ones that really need it.
So many rely on a system that can cut you off in one click.

Im sure it will all be sorted out but its us little people that have to pay to clean up the mess with bigger tax rises.

where is your evidence of all these children with absolutely nothing wrong with them needing SEN support in the UK exactly ? Are you a medical professional with the qualifications to make those sorts of judgements ?
Honestly If you are going to make sweeping statements then you need to have at least a modicum of evidence to back it up.

Starconundrum · 31/10/2025 02:52

Starconundrum · 31/10/2025 02:48

I don't understand this. I've met 3 of these 4 people. One is American/italian. One is native american, two are Latina.

I did say it was my problem for assuming. Though they have all said they're left. I just assumed more left.

Ohhhhh, i was agreeing with you, sorry.

I was surprised that the Americans I knew weren't. When they have previously said they were. But they kept telling me to watch tiktoks about why they were so mad.

Which is why I think it's propoganda as they seem to have all watched the same one tiktok.

TooBigForMyBoots · 31/10/2025 03:00

Starconundrum · 31/10/2025 02:48

I don't understand this. I've met 3 of these 4 people. One is American/italian. One is native american, two are Latina.

I did say it was my problem for assuming. Though they have all said they're left. I just assumed more left.

They amplified one very extreme case to excuse(?) justify(?) the cancellation of food benefits to the elderly, the disabled, veterans, children and adults currently working for free for the US government.

I don't think they're left wing.

Starconundrum · 31/10/2025 03:09

TooBigForMyBoots · 31/10/2025 02:30

Of course they said they were left, leftist😵‍💫 and or immigrants.🙄

I think you misunderstand me, or i haven't said it correctly.

These Americans, who I would and always have taken to be centre left, were quoting that one tiktok about the 7 fathers 7 kids at me and acting horrified that their money (that none of them pay) was going towards SO MANY people like that. When it appears to be one person. And I'm not sure if it's just gone viral or if it was purposeful propoganda. Because they seem to have changed their opinion so quickly.

I am suspect to the veracity and timing of this tiktok. That lets not forget trump banned when he was last president and then let in again without telling anyone the terms of that.

That's what I mean.

I wasn't disparaging anyone on here, I was more surprised that they were supporting this shutdown when previously they would not.

Starconundrum · 31/10/2025 03:12

TooBigForMyBoots · 31/10/2025 03:00

They amplified one very extreme case to excuse(?) justify(?) the cancellation of food benefits to the elderly, the disabled, veterans, children and adults currently working for free for the US government.

I don't think they're left wing.

Yeah, that's why I was shocked.

I haven't seen it, have you? Is it actually awful or is there other stuff at play? I'm really not being disingenuous. I'm actively 🤯 wtf

TooBigForMyBoots · 31/10/2025 03:14

I didn't think you were being disparaging @Starconundrum. I'm really grateful for your insight and input.SmileThanks

Starconundrum · 31/10/2025 03:16

TooBigForMyBoots · 31/10/2025 03:14

I didn't think you were being disparaging @Starconundrum. I'm really grateful for your insight and input.SmileThanks

Thankyou.

When I get overexcited I'm really crap at explaining myself 🤣

askmenow · 31/10/2025 03:16

WhatIsTheCharge · 30/10/2025 18:38

Well they CAN stay shut down indefinitely…….

But if that happens, the country will descend into carnage.
We can feel it bubbling on the surface already - people will start stealing because they have no other choice to feed their families.
People will die because they have no access to healthcare.
The military aren’t being paid - they can’t arrest everyone for refusing to soldier if people stop showing up to work 🤷🏻‍♀️

Well they’re already stealing here in the UK because our Government has decreed that any theft less than £200 worth of goods will NOT be prosecuted. Nobody will come to the vendors aid!

Our Police are tooooo busy arresting people for tweets considered offensive and “non hate crimes”
OMG they’ll raid your home and drag you into custody without bail if you dare offend someone on X.
Fucking shambles is our inept, corrupt prime minister, Two-tier-never-here Kier.

Go into a shop and clear the shelves into a carrier bag and walk out. Nobody will stop you.

Its the Wild West over here and civil unrest will surely ensue.
Our young people can’t get homes because the. Island is overwhelmed with migrants who are prioritised for housing above our own people.
We have become the welfare system for the worlds poor and our Government is the driving force behind the chaos. .

They bring their mediaeval attitudes to our streets so women no longer feel safe to go out. Soon women will be told to “cover up” for fear of inflaming male desires. Then we’ll know all is lost!
The UK is unrecognisable from even 10 years ago.

Starconundrum · 31/10/2025 03:18

askmenow · 31/10/2025 03:16

Well they’re already stealing here in the UK because our Government has decreed that any theft less than £200 worth of goods will NOT be prosecuted. Nobody will come to the vendors aid!

Our Police are tooooo busy arresting people for tweets considered offensive and “non hate crimes”
OMG they’ll raid your home and drag you into custody without bail if you dare offend someone on X.
Fucking shambles is our inept, corrupt prime minister, Two-tier-never-here Kier.

Go into a shop and clear the shelves into a carrier bag and walk out. Nobody will stop you.

Its the Wild West over here and civil unrest will surely ensue.
Our young people can’t get homes because the. Island is overwhelmed with migrants who are prioritised for housing above our own people.
We have become the welfare system for the worlds poor and our Government is the driving force behind the chaos. .

They bring their mediaeval attitudes to our streets so women no longer feel safe to go out. Soon women will be told to “cover up” for fear of inflaming male desires. Then we’ll know all is lost!
The UK is unrecognisable from even 10 years ago.

This is also untrue.

askmenow · 31/10/2025 03:23

Starconundrum · 31/10/2025 03:18

This is also untrue.

No, it’s not, look at the bloody stats!
Its just that MSM , a tool of the Government since Covid, don’t report accurately.

Check out Ground News for accurate reporting stats and bias.

TooBigForMyBoots · 31/10/2025 03:24

Starconundrum · 31/10/2025 03:16

Thankyou.

When I get overexcited I'm really crap at explaining myself 🤣

Me too.BlushGrin

Starconundrum · 31/10/2025 03:27

It's also racist shit that is very dressed up in words that cannot be considered racist so the poster can claim they didn't actually SAY that.

I see this more and more. It's very AI. It's very nasty. It's very manipulative. It's very much similar to the propoganda that other regimes have used to take power and control from previously democratic states. It's very similar to what I think my friends saw on tiktok.

And it's on a thread about snap. Not the UK.

Why would this be posted here?