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What’s happening with food stamps in the US?

235 replies

OverDram · 30/10/2025 14:49

I’m seeing it all over social media. Has Trump stopped the equivalent of benefits?

Can someone explain please?

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Coolasfeck · 31/10/2025 09:20

The Republicans are trying to avoid the swearing in of a democratic congresswoman who will have the deciding vote on releasing the Epstein files.

Timothy Mellon donated $130m 2 days ago to pay troops to keep shutdown going - his dad’s name is all over the Epstein flight logs (allegedly). There are lots of people doing their best to keep those files sealed.

GoldThumb · 31/10/2025 09:23

Coolasfeck · 31/10/2025 09:20

The Republicans are trying to avoid the swearing in of a democratic congresswoman who will have the deciding vote on releasing the Epstein files.

Timothy Mellon donated $130m 2 days ago to pay troops to keep shutdown going - his dad’s name is all over the Epstein flight logs (allegedly). There are lots of people doing their best to keep those files sealed.

Edited

Interesting…

Keepingthingsinteresting · 31/10/2025 09:42

askmenow · 31/10/2025 03:16

Well they’re already stealing here in the UK because our Government has decreed that any theft less than £200 worth of goods will NOT be prosecuted. Nobody will come to the vendors aid!

Our Police are tooooo busy arresting people for tweets considered offensive and “non hate crimes”
OMG they’ll raid your home and drag you into custody without bail if you dare offend someone on X.
Fucking shambles is our inept, corrupt prime minister, Two-tier-never-here Kier.

Go into a shop and clear the shelves into a carrier bag and walk out. Nobody will stop you.

Its the Wild West over here and civil unrest will surely ensue.
Our young people can’t get homes because the. Island is overwhelmed with migrants who are prioritised for housing above our own people.
We have become the welfare system for the worlds poor and our Government is the driving force behind the chaos. .

They bring their mediaeval attitudes to our streets so women no longer feel safe to go out. Soon women will be told to “cover up” for fear of inflaming male desires. Then we’ll know all is lost!
The UK is unrecognisable from even 10 years ago.

You do know it was the previous conservative government, and specifically the home office under Theresa May, that changed the guidelines on enforcement of shop lifting right? You might not think the current government is doing a good job, and they re fucking up a lot of stuff, but you can’t blame them for that or everything stemming from the legacy of the last lot- the economic fallout from truss springs to mind ( hello higher mortgage rates) & the blond moron’s corruption spring easily to mind.

user2255679541 · 31/10/2025 09:49

deararethymountains · 31/10/2025 01:31

Nah. The Dems have openly stated that the poor people will just have to go without. Even the far leftist Washington Post admits that the Dems have said poor people will just have to starve.

"The right answer is to reopen the government with a clean funding bill, ideally for a full year, to get food stamps flowing and federal workers back in the office, and then have a debate about ACA subsidies," the Post editorial said.

"Democrats openly acknowledge that they refuse to do this because it would mean giving up their leverage. If they persist, it could mean families start to go hungry."

If you believe that the Jeff Bezos-owned Washington Post is 'far leftist', you're beyond rational conversation.

user2255679541 · 31/10/2025 09:54

This is an example of what the Democrats are fighting against. 700% increases in the cost of health insurance.

https://alaskabeacon.com/2025/09/23/alaskans-face-massive-health-insurance-cost-increases-unless-congress-acts-before-year-end/

Crikeyalmighty · 31/10/2025 10:12

I think part of the issue is media and I’m sure it’s no different in the US- take the example of the story re Rachel Reeves- a non story if ever I saw one- yep her agents cocked up but it’s not exactly big league stuff - whereas the story about Farages partner buying a house with money from the back of the sofa, the Tory’s endless stories of millions written off or hidden on business things, huge amounts given to knock offs in ‘contracts’ ( hello Boris Johnson) -savid javids business antics - Sunaks wife’s involvement with companies taking large amounts from the Covid loan scheme and then liquidating them quite quickly - all get brushed under the carpet by the mail , express , even BBc etc - anything involving labour - they bang on about it for weeks - thing is many ( not all but I would say vast majority) of over 70s in particular aren’t on blue sky, Twitter, reading private eye etc - they do get their info from Mail, express, BBC news. So are often oblivious to what’s not reported in those places. Take as an example the very positive rulings this week regards renters- very little reported on it by any of these sources. In fact anything Labour do that is positive- simply not reported or done on a ‘hide it away’ kind of way - these sources have gone from being ‘news reporters ‘ to agenda setters designed to appeal to a particular demographic - and to show how cynical it all is the owners of the Express also own the Daily Mirror - who of course are reporting the opposite agenda- I’m sure the US is very similar if not worse. To be frank if Donny’s tariffs are so mega mega successful, why does he need to be tinkering with stopping/cutting healthcare etc - the US likes to give off the mega successful image to the world but you only have to go there ( and I’ve been a lot) to say a lot of it is a run down behind the times dump mass illusion fuelled by huge debt - personal and state and ludicrous numbers of people on public service jobs propping up the economy and large parts of the population doing nicely going round screwing each other for every penny, be that medical, dental, an awful lot of things involving ‘services ‘ - as an example we needed to get a guy out to do some filming of an interview, nothing negative skilled, one man and his video camera kind of thing - 1850 dollars for a mornings work , maybe 2 hours tidying up on editing and a 20 minute drive - could have done this in UK for £500 quite easily- there are lots of things I like in the US and if you are doing well it can be a good lifestyle but this is very very spotty indeed and for massive amounts of people it’s a really hard slog just getting by - which is why you see bent double 80 year old veterans working parking lots etc - when people think we need to look towards the US I wish so many who have never been or maybe a couple of Florida holidays understood the actual full picture

Hiptothisjive · 31/10/2025 12:52

GummyBearette · 31/10/2025 01:27

It is unusual for this length of time, it’s disingenuous to suggest it’s not. It’s also unusual that the Trump administration is holding low income people hostage from a food perspective when there are congressional funds available. The rhetoric the republicans are spouting on the reasons why are outright lies. The Trump administration's overall behaviour is outrightly not the norm and you should be well aware of that. FFS.

I am aware and the FFS is completely unwarranted and frankly rude. Yes the length of time is unusual but the rest isn’t. I’m no fan of Trump and FULLY aware of the political situation. But the budget not being approved isn’t unusual.

Gair · 31/10/2025 13:38

Tryingtolikeyou · 31/10/2025 01:22

I have been looking on youtube at some of this omg.

Some need comdoms birth control and stop popping out kids.
sad part is some of these parents are scamming to get it and taking away from people that really do need the help.
Some women are saying they are going looting and will choose violence and rob homes. (good parenting that)

Its got to a point where others have had enough of paying the price for others.
Its like the uk in a way so many people claiming for sen kids when tbh their is nothing wrong with them.
It takes away the help and makes it harder for the ones that really need it.
So many rely on a system that can cut you off in one click.

Im sure it will all be sorted out but its us little people that have to pay to clean up the mess with bigger tax rises.

If you had any idea of the resources (time, money, education level, effort) it takes to get SEN support for a child in the UK, you would not be spreading these untruths. Unless you are a malicious provocateur that is.

I have lived it, I continue to live it, and my child is not in receipt of any benefits - unless you consider his state school education a benefit.

It might be worth you sourcing your news and information from fact checked sources rather than from Youtube.

WhatIsTheCharge · 31/10/2025 14:34

Telemichus · 31/10/2025 06:15

Sorry I haven’t read the whole thread but I was wondering yesterday if school meals are affected? Presumably teachers aren’t getting paid? Or is that paid at a state level?
are school support staff and then if children would usually get free school lunch will that also go?

School meals are state level budgeting.

Some states have a free school meals program for all students regardless of income.

In other states it depends on the school/school district - my children’s school district kept their free school meals initiative this year, so all students regardless of income get at least lunch at school. My children’s school have maintained breakfast and lunch for all students.

WhatIsTheCharge · 31/10/2025 14:36

Ilovecakey · 31/10/2025 07:53

Omg why is formula so expensive over there?!

Because capitalism 🤷🏻‍♀️🫠

The formula companies know that there’s no protected maternity leave policies for mothers. So most women don’t have adequate time to establish breastfeeding or maintain a supply….so most mothers here will end up using formula at some point.
The formula companies capitalise hugely on that.

WhatIsTheCharge · 31/10/2025 14:39

EasternStandard · 31/10/2025 08:17

@WhatIsTheChargewhat do you think will happen? Who will fold

Literally couldn’t say at this point.

The information we are getting changes from one day to the next. somethings telling me that Democrats are more likely to fold than Republicans….but I’m not sure if they’ll be willing to concede on the healthcare subsidies.

All we can do is ride it out unfortunately.

Gair · 31/10/2025 14:40

askmenow · 31/10/2025 03:16

Well they’re already stealing here in the UK because our Government has decreed that any theft less than £200 worth of goods will NOT be prosecuted. Nobody will come to the vendors aid!

Our Police are tooooo busy arresting people for tweets considered offensive and “non hate crimes”
OMG they’ll raid your home and drag you into custody without bail if you dare offend someone on X.
Fucking shambles is our inept, corrupt prime minister, Two-tier-never-here Kier.

Go into a shop and clear the shelves into a carrier bag and walk out. Nobody will stop you.

Its the Wild West over here and civil unrest will surely ensue.
Our young people can’t get homes because the. Island is overwhelmed with migrants who are prioritised for housing above our own people.
We have become the welfare system for the worlds poor and our Government is the driving force behind the chaos. .

They bring their mediaeval attitudes to our streets so women no longer feel safe to go out. Soon women will be told to “cover up” for fear of inflaming male desires. Then we’ll know all is lost!
The UK is unrecognisable from even 10 years ago.

Is there a single far right trope which you have forgotten? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I live in a deprived area of the UK, and while the UK is far from perfect it is still a relatively amazing place to live, with a social safety net and medical care free at point of use (which admittedly does not get all needs met in a timely fashion due to rationing caused by funding issues). We have a stable society, rule of law and freedom of expression. A lot of people seem to forget that, and are mainly interested in sowing hatred and division rather than tackling the problems cooperatively in a constructive mature way.

I have lived and worked in countries where a lot of these moaners would not survive two minutes without the support that a functioning non-corrupt democratic state provides. We should count our blessings rather than catastrophise and cheer when a previously stable democratic country such as the US has a major stability wobble which is being played out on the backs of the poor and government employees who (in the main) work for the common good.

WhatIsTheCharge · 31/10/2025 14:40

sashh · 31/10/2025 09:16

@WhatIsTheCharge which country are you in?

If you are in the UK you can get a small amount of prescription medicines from a pharmacy. The brand names will be different and obviously you would have to pay.

What I can't understand is all the vitriol on X saying people shouldn't be able to buy certain things eg cookies or that they should be given a box of basic food stuff.

I’m still in the US at the moment.

Ive got 24 days worth of my meds left. If this situation isn’t unfucked by the time I reach 21 days, I’ll have to pay for a telehealth appointment out of pockets with another provider and get more prescribed that way

WhatIsTheCharge · 31/10/2025 14:49

Gair · 31/10/2025 14:40

Is there a single far right trope which you have forgotten? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I live in a deprived area of the UK, and while the UK is far from perfect it is still a relatively amazing place to live, with a social safety net and medical care free at point of use (which admittedly does not get all needs met in a timely fashion due to rationing caused by funding issues). We have a stable society, rule of law and freedom of expression. A lot of people seem to forget that, and are mainly interested in sowing hatred and division rather than tackling the problems cooperatively in a constructive mature way.

I have lived and worked in countries where a lot of these moaners would not survive two minutes without the support that a functioning non-corrupt democratic state provides. We should count our blessings rather than catastrophise and cheer when a previously stable democratic country such as the US has a major stability wobble which is being played out on the backs of the poor and government employees who (in the main) work for the common good.

This.

Theres been a fair few Americans recently who I’ve told about our impending move back, and they just regurgitate the usual GB News bollocks 🫠😂
And I’m just there like: “Yeah…..universal healthcare, paid maternity leave, subsidised childcare, minimum of 25 paid days of work a year and 10 national holidays off work is soooooo oppressive” 🫠🫠😂😂😂

Fgfgfg · 31/10/2025 16:00

@askmenow Soon women will be told to “cover up” for fear of inflaming male desires. Then we’ll know all is lost!

'She was asking for it, going out dressed like that' is old news in this country.
I'm old. I remember many court cases where women were raped and then further abused, shamed and blamed by the police, the courts and society because of their clothing. Misogyny is not a new concept.

WhatIsTheCharge · 31/10/2025 16:29

Fgfgfg · 31/10/2025 16:00

@askmenow Soon women will be told to “cover up” for fear of inflaming male desires. Then we’ll know all is lost!

'She was asking for it, going out dressed like that' is old news in this country.
I'm old. I remember many court cases where women were raped and then further abused, shamed and blamed by the police, the courts and society because of their clothing. Misogyny is not a new concept.

Yeah but the new brand dickhead’s favourite pastime is to use examples of misogynistic behaviour and abuse against women as another stick to beat brown people with 🫠👍🏻

(whilst seemingly ignoring the facts that tell us 83% of defendants in sex crime cases are white males)

Junenights · 31/10/2025 16:29

PermanentTemporary · 31/10/2025 06:23

@Junenights I think the uk equivalent would be the Commons voting down the Budget bill, which by convention I don’t think happens, and it going to the Lords and them blocking it as well. I know that it is a constitutional convention that the Lords as an unelected chamber don’t block the elected Government’s budget, though they could debate and ask for changes. The 1909 constitutional crisis was when the Lords refused to pass Lloyd George’s budget and LG got the King to threaten to create a whole lot of new Lords to force it through. This was so shocking that the convention emerged that the Lords don’t do that any more.

Thanks so much for breaking it down.

Btw, love the username!

Crikeyalmighty · 31/10/2025 22:31

WhatIsTheCharge · 31/10/2025 14:49

This.

Theres been a fair few Americans recently who I’ve told about our impending move back, and they just regurgitate the usual GB News bollocks 🫠😂
And I’m just there like: “Yeah…..universal healthcare, paid maternity leave, subsidised childcare, minimum of 25 paid days of work a year and 10 national holidays off work is soooooo oppressive” 🫠🫠😂😂😂

Ha - so very true - don’t get me wrong I really enjoy the trips We’ve had to California and New York and my h has toured there managing bands, but it’s a place to live with pots of money for a good lifestyle or with a company paying your health and housing etc - for average earners paying their own way - it can be a very hard slog and better weather doesn’t compensate for the negatives ‘in my opinion’ - I find most people commenting on the US are in a fortunate position.that’s not to say I don’t think there are better places lifestylexwise in the EU than the uk ,,having lived for 20 months in Copenhagen - but again it comes down to other factors , work, getting in. ( post brexit) ability to make a network for yourself - it’s all a balancing act

Pleasegetmeacoffeesotired · 01/11/2025 06:44

Did you get paid, @WhatIsTheCharge? I thought for sure we wouldn't this month, but we got it yesterday. Not the full amount but almost.

WhatIsTheCharge · 01/11/2025 14:25

Pleasegetmeacoffeesotired · 01/11/2025 06:44

Did you get paid, @WhatIsTheCharge? I thought for sure we wouldn't this month, but we got it yesterday. Not the full amount but almost.

Just to sweeten the deal, DH has the duty phone this week and it rang at 4:30am 🫠 So I’ve woken up again and he’s still not here…..so I don’t know yet about pay

SapphireSeptember · 01/11/2025 20:59

WhatIsTheCharge · 30/10/2025 18:13

Nobody got paid - not even active duty military. Then that money got magicked up, so active duty got paid, but civilian contractors didn’t.
The medical centre in our USAF base is in shambles. The only services available at the moment are “essential services” - so emergency room & labour and delivery basically. The pharmacy is rationing medications because there’s no budget for them to be able to restock. I’m on my last pack of mine and can’t order my repeat prescription because they haven’t got it. The way health insurance works for military folk here, is you are either on Tricare Prime or Tricare Select. Prime is free for active duty servicemen and their dependants, but you have to be seen on base. Select has an out-of-pocket fee but you get to choose where you get care as long as the doctor you choose is in Network, but obviously most of those doctors now don’t want to see Tricare patients because when they go to make the insurance claim to Tricare to get paid, theirs no budget allocated to pay for it…..so we are fucked unless we can pay out-of-pocket to see a random doctor off base (which most of us can’t especially right now!)

I'm sorry, it must be so stressful.

SapphireSeptember · 01/11/2025 21:19

coffeeccrisp · 31/10/2025 01:08

Im all for the snap if used in the right way the same as i feel with UK benefits.
But for what ive seen women are going crazy over it.
Saying its the tax payers responsibility to feed their kid.
One saying she has 7 kids with 7 dads another with 5 kids why did they have more kids when they knew they was struggling in the first place.
Openly saying they scam the system.

I didnt help make any kids they choose to lay down so why should tax payers have to pay for them and fund them.

Because unless you want children starving out on the streets (through no fault of their own, they didn't ask to be born) then you give their parents money and hope they get fed. If you're saying you'd rather kids go hungry so their idiotic parents can't brag about whatever money they receive on social media then there's no hope for you.
And be careful out there. I saw something so ridiculous I didn't believe it, and after reverse searching the image used in the article concluded it was fake and just rage bait. The same picture came up on another four articles along the same lines, looked like it was taken in the 2000s, and there were no other results. People do make shit up.

coffeeccrisp · 01/11/2025 21:20

SapphireSeptember · 01/11/2025 21:19

Because unless you want children starving out on the streets (through no fault of their own, they didn't ask to be born) then you give their parents money and hope they get fed. If you're saying you'd rather kids go hungry so their idiotic parents can't brag about whatever money they receive on social media then there's no hope for you.
And be careful out there. I saw something so ridiculous I didn't believe it, and after reverse searching the image used in the article concluded it was fake and just rage bait. The same picture came up on another four articles along the same lines, looked like it was taken in the 2000s, and there were no other results. People do make shit up.

Calm down its all been sorted.

mathanxiety · 01/11/2025 21:26

OverDram · 30/10/2025 18:27

Is this something that could happen every single year?

In theory, yes, but in practice it only happens when there is a razor thin Republican majority or a particularly obdurate wing of a party holding everyone else to ransom.

In this case, part of the reason to shut down is to prevent a newly elected Democratic Congress member from Arizona from being sworn in and seated. This member would vote on the release of the Epstein files and would also vote against the many elements of the budget that are aimed at decimating the welfare of the majority of Americans who live paycheck to paycheck.

mathanxiety · 01/11/2025 21:31

Bobiverse · 31/10/2025 08:33

Republicabs are voting to go ahead with the budget they want, removing health care subsidies and other things. Of course they’re voting for that.
The democrats won’t agree to that budget. Of course their voting won’t.

if republicans really wanted to open back up then they’d go back to the budget and findnve healthcare subsidies. Why should the democrats back down when, in the long run, what they want is worth the short term pain as it’s better for the country overall.

Agree.

And going into the midterms they need to make the message very clear that they are fighting for ordinary Americans.

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