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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think that I can go to this baby class?

212 replies

Gerbera55 · 29/10/2025 16:48

Background info:
A friend and I are both teachers so have an understanding of how language development works and how important it is. I am a mum to a 12 week old.
My council have released information about a language development focus baby class they are going to run at a local children’s centre. They haven’t announced cost yet, but based on other classes I have seen, it will likely be free or very low cost.
I saw my friend today and she asked about any classes I have been doing with baby. I told her about the baby massage and sensory classes I have been doing. I mentioned the language development class to her and she told me she thinks I shouldn’t go because I know how to support my baby’s language development, so I should leave the spaces for mums from low income families who can’t afford classes or for those parents who need support with language development.
In one sense I can see where she’s coming from, but equally my maternity pay won’t stretch to the more expensive classes for much longer and also I want to do as much as possible to support my child’s language development, especially with them being August born.

AIBU?

OP posts:
Khayker · 30/10/2025 18:19

MaplePumpkin · 29/10/2025 16:57

I think you should go! It’s not like there’s some big long waiting list and you’re actively taking someone else’s place. I’m sure there’s room for both!

There might be a big long waiting list when classes start.

NavyBee · 30/10/2025 18:33

BoredZelda · 29/10/2025 17:21

Isn’t it a bit early to be concerned about your baby’s language skills?

I don’t think there is anything wrong with attending any class if it’s open to anyone, I’m just wondering whether a class for developing language skills is necessary for a baby of that age.

No it’s not. I am sure the class will cover what you can do now (and from what you say actually baby will be 5 months old) to support language development and what you can do as he gets older. First words (which may not be clearly articulated) are only a few months away. There are ways of talking to babies and toddlers that are specially helpful for supporting and encouraging language development. And absolutely you should attend if you want to, not leave it for the ‘less fortunate’. None of us know everything about parenting!

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 30/10/2025 18:50

HellsBellsAndCatsWhiskers · 30/10/2025 17:51

Do teachers learn about development of babies?

Pp said a linguistics professor might learn something from a council-run weekly class about child language development. Which they wouldn’t, given they will have studied child language acquisition in great depth. That’s what I was replying to.

If you’re going to comment, at least know what you’re commenting on.

SharonMack17 · 30/10/2025 19:47

Gerbera55 · 29/10/2025 17:07

It doesn’t but I have seen lots of August born children who have struggled at school due to being a whole year younger than their counterparts. Equally I’ve seen some August born children thrive - doesn’t mean I don’t worry that my child might fall into the former camp. Therefore I want to do everything I can to support my child.

As a speech and language therapist who supports the running of classes like this; please go if you want to and are able to. They really should be open to anyone who is wanting to explore communicating with their baby!

Dinosaurhearmeroar · 30/10/2025 20:07

YourLuckyBrickOtter · 29/10/2025 16:54

I agree with your friend. Pay for classes and leave these free ones for the people they are meant to target. This is part of the reason we don't have SureStart any more. The "sharp elbowed" middle classes living in gentrified areas and taking away the resources from those most deprived. I do find it really selfish, I have to say.

We don’t have surestart because of the Tory government, not because of middle class mums.

Gerbera55 · 30/10/2025 20:16

Khayker · 30/10/2025 18:19

There might be a big long waiting list when classes start.

But equally, there might not be and as others have said, it will be a use it or lose it scenario!

OP posts:
NotEnoughKnittingTime · 30/10/2025 20:46

I wonder if this is for those who don't have English as their first language?

Gerbera55 · 30/10/2025 20:49

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 30/10/2025 20:46

I wonder if this is for those who don't have English as their first language?

I’m sure it would be advertised as that if it was the case.

OP posts:
Bearsmumma · 30/10/2025 20:57

You can’t win OP!! I’m in a highly regarded profession. I did a few courses when on mat leave and there was definitely no ‘middle class divide’ in classes as mentioned earlier in this thread! I benefited just as much as people on lower incomes- It wasn’t a case of I now know all the topics being taught just because I no longer live on a council estate! They were hugely beneficial! You absolutely have the right to attend just as others do. The group of friends I’ve made from a class we attended are completely mixed in terms of wealth and education.

Also completely understand the worry of an August baby! Worried more about my August born since the day he arrived early!

laura246810 · 30/10/2025 21:08

Would mums want to go to a class just for deprived babies? I dont think many people view themselves that way.

Personally id support a sliding scale/ means tested fee. So everyone can go and the classes can be funded.

uahmed · 30/10/2025 21:32

I would recommend you go for the course you might learn something you don't know which your baby can benefit from.
Why should you miss out, why should these oppertunities only be for sahm and people on benefits. You are entitled to attend as any other new parent, grab that oppertunity as once you return to work you won't have a chance to attend these sessions.

BertieBotts · 30/10/2025 21:42

Go for it. These things often lose funding if they don't get enough participants/interest. You are interested and it's offered, so go.

User79853257976 · 30/10/2025 22:02

If your child is behind with language development then you can go. Have you had training in baby and toddler language development?

I do think it’s for children who need it though. Parents who have English as an additional language might need the support more than you if spaces are limited.

Dacatspjs · 30/10/2025 22:06

I look at things like this more as a use it or lose it kind of thing.

If classes are oversubscribed then they will keep running them and run more of the same if the demand is there. If people stay away because they think they're taking a place from someone else then the provision eventually stops.

Yourcatisnotsorry · 30/10/2025 22:12

YourLuckyBrickOtter · 29/10/2025 16:54

I agree with your friend. Pay for classes and leave these free ones for the people they are meant to target. This is part of the reason we don't have SureStart any more. The "sharp elbowed" middle classes living in gentrified areas and taking away the resources from those most deprived. I do find it really selfish, I have to say.

I’m not sure it was the middle classes taking up the spaces of the lower income parents, more the centres didn’t appeal to the lower income parents so they didn’t attend (in general).

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 30/10/2025 22:12

You should go to all the council run activities they are great! Baby massage is good for your baby age. However the children’s center language groups are often targeted to specific kids or families so double check that. If they’re open to all then do go!

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 30/10/2025 22:13

Yourcatisnotsorry · 30/10/2025 22:12

I’m not sure it was the middle classes taking up the spaces of the lower income parents, more the centres didn’t appeal to the lower income parents so they didn’t attend (in general).

What nonsense. It’s good for low income families to mingle with the more privileged educated professional families.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 30/10/2025 22:15

SomethingInnocuousForNow · 29/10/2025 17:05

It's actually important these classes are see as desirable and attended by the middle classes as well as target groups because that stops them becoming stigmatised and is better for social mixing.

I agree

Yourcatisnotsorry · 30/10/2025 22:15

You should definitely go if you want to and if there’s space. These things are not normally oversubscribed. Enjoy your mat leave!

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 30/10/2025 22:17

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 30/10/2025 10:49

If you were an expert in something, to the point where you’d studied the subject beyond degree level and now taught that subject at degree level, what exactly do you think you might learn at a course covering the fundamentals?

It’s like saying a maths professor might learn something at a class covering basic maths such as percentages, ratios and fractions, ie ridiculous.

I am as expert as it gets on child development, but I loved baby classes on my mat leave, being in the moment and thinking about what they’re discussing with your own child in mind is totally different. And lots of these classes have a focus of some sort but the main goal in them is to build parents confidence, get them meeting each other and reducing their risk of postnatal depression etc

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 30/10/2025 22:18

Dacatspjs · 30/10/2025 22:06

I look at things like this more as a use it or lose it kind of thing.

If classes are oversubscribed then they will keep running them and run more of the same if the demand is there. If people stay away because they think they're taking a place from someone else then the provision eventually stops.

This is absolutely correct

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 30/10/2025 22:25

Op, on a side note, if you’re looking to improve your babies language development the best things you can do are: no screens (them or you using phone wherever possible!) talking and interacting back and forth and chattering about what you and baby are doing and what you can see etc all day long, and BABY SIGNING - if sing and sign or makaton is on offer do this, so much research evidence for its benefits and it helps them communicate early

KittyEckersley · 30/10/2025 22:50

Definitely go to the class! My local council has a family centre in almost every town, not all in the deprived areas.

The only things all the mothers had in common at these groups was that they were able to take maternity leave- so could be on a very low wage/unemployed so might as well take as much time as possible, have savings, lower mortgage/rent or a job where it’s easier to go back no matter how much maternity leave.

Also, this group will most likely be first-time mothers with babies close in age to yours. Therefore you’ll be able to make more friends potentially. Mothers with other children would have to go to play groups or paid groups aimed at them.

I found that lots of the paid classes like Baby Sensory and Hartbeeps really packed in the activities so there was less time for socialising. And, playgroups are chaotic to go with a little baby.

Also, I’m a professional with a similar pay and education to teaching, as is my husband. I live in a working class area and our salaries combined are nothing special. There are lots of tradesmen, people in the military, people with no qualifications who have worked their way up in companies who earn way more than us. Often the male partner will be earning well and the female partner might work in a minimum wage job but have a Range Rover.

Justacigarette · 30/10/2025 22:53

YourLuckyBrickOtter · 29/10/2025 16:54

I agree with your friend. Pay for classes and leave these free ones for the people they are meant to target. This is part of the reason we don't have SureStart any more. The "sharp elbowed" middle classes living in gentrified areas and taking away the resources from those most deprived. I do find it really selfish, I have to say.

I disagree. I think having people from all walks of life at these groups is great for everyone.

Note that quite often the sharp elbowed middle class have paid a lot in tax etc, and should get to participate in this sort of thing too.

Justacigarette · 30/10/2025 22:56

Onmytod24 · 29/10/2025 17:20

You’re a teacher.

A teacher is not a particularly well paid job these days