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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think that I can go to this baby class?

212 replies

Gerbera55 · 29/10/2025 16:48

Background info:
A friend and I are both teachers so have an understanding of how language development works and how important it is. I am a mum to a 12 week old.
My council have released information about a language development focus baby class they are going to run at a local children’s centre. They haven’t announced cost yet, but based on other classes I have seen, it will likely be free or very low cost.
I saw my friend today and she asked about any classes I have been doing with baby. I told her about the baby massage and sensory classes I have been doing. I mentioned the language development class to her and she told me she thinks I shouldn’t go because I know how to support my baby’s language development, so I should leave the spaces for mums from low income families who can’t afford classes or for those parents who need support with language development.
In one sense I can see where she’s coming from, but equally my maternity pay won’t stretch to the more expensive classes for much longer and also I want to do as much as possible to support my child’s language development, especially with them being August born.

AIBU?

OP posts:
stellarnova · 29/10/2025 20:18

KeyWorker · 29/10/2025 19:39

You absolutely can go to the class if it is advertised as open to all. If the council running it only wanted to target a specific demographic they would have an inclusion criteria such as being in receipt of certain benefits, or make it referral only so you could only go if referred by your health visitor or social worker for example.

Came to say the same. Child services are one area where support can really be targeted in this way, so I'm sure the council would have set certain criteria if this was a concern. If they find it isn't achieving its aims after one round (which won't last more than a couple of months) then they can make it more targeted in future. No point second guessing it in the meantime.

TheOccupier · 29/10/2025 20:24

LOL at "language development" for a 12-week-old baby! Or 6 months come to that - PFB nonsense. Talk to the baby in daily life and barring any learning difficulties they will eventually talk to you.

rainbowunicorn · 29/10/2025 20:26

YourLuckyBrickOtter · 29/10/2025 18:24

I think we should increase uptake from people who need it most.

To be honest if I went along to a baby group and encountered someone with attitudes like yours I would probably be put off going back. It wouldn't matter what class I was. I would not want to spend time with someone as narrow-minded as you are coming across.

Loungingbutnotforlong · 29/10/2025 20:26

Your baby is only 12 weeks old and you are a teacher who has an understanding of language development- I very much doubt these classes are meant for you.

ainsleysanob · 29/10/2025 20:31

Onmytod24 · 29/10/2025 19:29

You’re getting very angry over a stranger.

You think that’s ‘angry’?! I’m pleased you’ve lived such a very sheltered life! Do tell, which bit was ‘angry’?!

tinyspiny · 29/10/2025 20:33

If you want to go then go , if it’s being subsidised by the council then surely it’s people’s council tax that is helping towards the cost so as far as I’m concerned if you pay your taxes then you are entitled to use the facilities/ classes .

Onmytod24 · 29/10/2025 20:39

ainsleysanob · 29/10/2025 20:31

You think that’s ‘angry’?! I’m pleased you’ve lived such a very sheltered life! Do tell, which bit was ‘angry’?!

Sorry, I misunderstood you were just being kind

LittleMyLabyrinth · 29/10/2025 20:41

Idk whether you should go to the class or not, but I am also a teacher and my son is also summer born, and I would say don't worry so much. Unless your baby has some kind of SEN their language will develop just fine! I never went to one of those classes and my son's language is fantastic. You just have to talk to them. I'm not saying the classes cannot be extremely valuable; just don't feel too worried if you don't end up going.

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 29/10/2025 21:25

ainsleysanob · 29/10/2025 19:17

Tough shit. OP and her baby are as deserving as any other mother and child. It is not her responsibility to put herself second to anyone else. If someone less well off wants their baby to benefit then they'll just have to get their names down first won't they? Like everyone else.

The point some people are making is that a teacher will be likely to already have the kind of basic parenting skills that will be taught at this course - eg knowing that it’s really important to talk to her baby all the time. Not everyone is this competent and needs the extra help. In that sense, she’s not as deserving, because she doesn’t have the same need to take the course. It’s not to do with money.

rrrrrreatt · 29/10/2025 21:33

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 29/10/2025 18:06

Sign up for NCT classes to meet other parents.

I bet there are loads of privately-run classes that you are not aware of, eg baby massage, baby sensory, music classes etc. They often hire out church halls etc.

If you have a local mums/parents fb page, they’re usually a good place to find information.

Edited

I hadn’t thought about local parents FB groups, thank you - I’ll have a look for one.

I’ve been keeping an eye on the cafe noticeboards and the general local FB group but I’ve only seen the children’s centre, one library class and an outdoor toddler thing. We didn’t used to have an NCT class nearby but I’ll check in again if we reach that point.

I don’t to take a much needed place from anyone but it’s hard to know where to start when you know nothing!

ainsleysanob · 30/10/2025 07:59

Onmytod24 · 29/10/2025 20:39

Sorry, I misunderstood you were just being kind

So, you couldn’t point out where I was being ‘angry’ because I wasn’t! Also, I don’t have to be kind, it isn’t a prerequisite of being a woman. OP and her child are as entitled to join in any group she likes and it is not her duty to gatekeep places within those groups. For all you know, OP could be very much struggling with being a mum and needs interaction within these groups, I would argue that your inability to see that, is unkind.

Goldengirl123 · 30/10/2025 08:04

Language development for a 12 week old! Seriously????

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 30/10/2025 08:08

The parents it is aimed at won't go. Many of the free activities for children on low incomes don't get much interest from that group so I don't see why you can't go?

DiscoBob · 30/10/2025 09:08

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 29/10/2025 19:30

A professor of linguistics would not find out any new information - they teach child language development in depth!

They might do?!

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 30/10/2025 10:49

DiscoBob · 30/10/2025 09:08

They might do?!

If you were an expert in something, to the point where you’d studied the subject beyond degree level and now taught that subject at degree level, what exactly do you think you might learn at a course covering the fundamentals?

It’s like saying a maths professor might learn something at a class covering basic maths such as percentages, ratios and fractions, ie ridiculous.

DiscoBob · 30/10/2025 11:20

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 30/10/2025 10:49

If you were an expert in something, to the point where you’d studied the subject beyond degree level and now taught that subject at degree level, what exactly do you think you might learn at a course covering the fundamentals?

It’s like saying a maths professor might learn something at a class covering basic maths such as percentages, ratios and fractions, ie ridiculous.

Right then. Thank you.

Tiebiter · 30/10/2025 11:23

I found having ADHD and just constantly wittering away to my child helps. Only now they constantly witter away too.

SunnyCoco · 30/10/2025 11:46

Gerbera55 · 29/10/2025 17:59

I am also facing those realities. Teachers aren’t immune to the cost of living crisis. Am I saying I’m not better off than some? Not at all, but my financial situation isn’t all that good either.

I honestly feel like I can’t win. This isn’t all on this thread but in other areas - I’m judged for planning to go back to work full time (to educate others’ children, mind) and putting my child in nursery to do so. I’m told I’m letting my child down by not staying at home
with them to support them. Then I want to do a class to support them and I’m judged!

Yeah, welcome to parenting 😂
The judgment never ends, so just make your decisions with the best intentions.

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 30/10/2025 11:46

DiscoBob · 30/10/2025 11:20

Right then. Thank you.

You’re welcome!

MsAnnFrope · 30/10/2025 15:32

TheOccupier · 29/10/2025 20:24

LOL at "language development" for a 12-week-old baby! Or 6 months come to that - PFB nonsense. Talk to the baby in daily life and barring any learning difficulties they will eventually talk to you.

Not all parents do know how or feel comfortable talking to baby. Communication development starts prenatally. I’m not sure I’d LOL at being ignorant.

HellsBellsAndCatsWhiskers · 30/10/2025 17:48

YourLuckyBrickOtter · 29/10/2025 17:55

No I'm just talking about the realities of being a parent in a worsening financial climate.

Yes, I'm in that situation also. I wouldn't begrudge a mother and baby a little once weekly group though.

HellsBellsAndCatsWhiskers · 30/10/2025 17:51

NoSoapJustUseShowerGel · 30/10/2025 10:49

If you were an expert in something, to the point where you’d studied the subject beyond degree level and now taught that subject at degree level, what exactly do you think you might learn at a course covering the fundamentals?

It’s like saying a maths professor might learn something at a class covering basic maths such as percentages, ratios and fractions, ie ridiculous.

Do teachers learn about development of babies?

thirdistheonewiththehairychest · 30/10/2025 17:54

In my experience, things like that tend to be 'invite only' and you get referred by health professionals if your child is obviously struggling with speech and language.

DarkPassenger1 · 30/10/2025 17:55

The comment from someone that 'middle class mums' shouldn't go as it'll 'alienate working class mums' is one of the funniest things I've seen on Mumsnet! The notion that middle class mothers are automatically knowledgeable about the topic this class is aimed at, and already will know everything the facilitator might be teaching, and that working class mums will not know any of this, is deeply, DEEPLY classist and offensive. I'd love to know where this comes from, other than a chip on the shoulder of someone who considers themselves working class and resents 'middle class mums'? Or worse, a 'middle class mum' that feels comfortable viewing themselves as superior to working class mums? Neither is a good look!

Go OP, I would. There have been times in my life I've assumed something has very little to teach me, and I've been proven happily wrong. Plus it shows demand, so it'll be more likely to continue running. Anyone who needs more intensive support than this course offers, whose child is experiencing delays, or whose parenting raises concerns, will have more support than a voluntary class available.

These topics really do bring out some deeply weird perspectives.

thirdistheonewiththehairychest · 30/10/2025 17:58

Thenightwasmadwithstars · 29/10/2025 20:06

I feel very passionately about open access to these centres - just because you earn a middle class wage or more, or are educated, or come from a middle class background, it does not mean that these classes aren't useful for both parents and kids. When I had my twins the local children's centres were an absolute lifeline for me - I was living in a place where I knew no one, let alone other mums, off the back of a traumatic pregnancy, doing long days alone with two screaming premature babies, not a clue what I was doing, useless HV, and probably pretty severe PND.

The children's centres gave a lot of tips and knowledge that I wouldn't have known without them. They also did a great job at cutting through the dross that was bombarding me on social media and actually gave me some confidence in what I was doing. I built a community there - with a really varied mix of backgrounds and incomes. Sometimes I think the real issue is with accessibility - a paid for class just felt so far away from achievable for me and my boys in those early days, whereas a local, walkable open access baby group was just about feasible.

I am an oxbridge educated professional and generally pretty privileged. It doesn't mean I didn't desperately need the help and I really do think that these areas should be open to all no matter your background.

Well said. I found myself in a very similar situation with my firstborn.

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