To wonder where the left has gone?

[KenAdams]

Ironically, this is somewhat of a rant.

Is everyone too scared to stand up to the constant hate filled rants for fear of being called "woke"?

Is the constant inference that VAWG is only perpetrated by brown men not worth standing up to?

Is the rhetoric that all of our problems are caused only by small boats and not legal migration or billionaires not problematic? For the record, I believe it is a problem, but not the only problem and not even the biggest problem. I believe the system is the problem.

The increasingly hostile movement against anyone that is non white is making people fearful of going about their every day lives and people seem to just want to sit on the sidelines and refuse to call it out.

Where is everyone?

I feel like this post might turn into a gaslighting shit show, but fuck it, I've had enough.

I am so sorry that you have to experience that.

Reform are going to win the next election

Is this in the UK?

They are highly selective when they want to support working class people.

When it supports their political stances they will weaponise them.

When it inconveniences them (such as strike action) they are a lot less supportive….

It’s your reference to a majority view. Can you please provide a source for your statement.

Very much so.
Incidences of racism have massively increased in the school I work at too. No kid deserves that.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/21582440211040773

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nigeria-country-policy-and-information-notes/country-policy-and-information-note-sexual-orientation-gender-identity-and-expression-and-sex-characteristics-nigeria-june-2025-accessible

Oh yeah, we had a mass shooting in Plymouth. A guy got hold of a machine gun (I think it was) and killed his mum, a dad and his toddler daughter and another two or three passers by.

Weirdly though, the papers just used his name, rather than leading with "Local white English man commits terrible massacre".

I'm not suggesting giving conservative arguments air time. I'm suggesting listening to the people who are telling you about their own experience and treating their concerns with respect. They have been insulted, denigrated and branded as bigots and racists for speaking about the problems migrant hotels create for them in the local area. I hope you are not going to try to gaslight me by saying that is not the case.

You are part of the problem, you talk about "disadvantaged people" being easily manipulated as if they are too stupid to understand their own experiences. If you think the immigration experiment should continue then you need to offer the people who are negatively affected some solutions.

I suspect asylum hotels would be a thing of the past if they opened half a dozen in nice up market neighbourhoods.

I live in a deprived town in the SE of England and our high street is unrecognisable now compared to when I was younger. Even older family members are commenting on how it has been overrun by African people. Again I am pro-multi culturalism and I am mixed race myself, but I can see why people in this country feel angry. It seems to be that those from certain classes don’t have a choice either. I imagine if you’re wealthier, this is less likely to happen in more privileged and secluded communities in Britain. The area I live in is absolutely mobbed with Union Jack flags… not only lining the streets and roundabouts but also hanging outside peoples windows.

I actually agree with this.

Well the Labour Party has adopted a definition of Islamophobia that includes ‘targeting expressions of Muslimness’ so anyone discussing immigration issues and criticising a growing number of people with abhorrent cultural practices settling here will be guilty of being ‘Islamophobic’.

The government are looking to change the law with an updated official definition of Islamophobia.

Another ‘expression of Muslimness’ is repeated first cousin marriage which is thought to have contributed significantly to the community cover ups of the Pakistani grooming gangs (other types of grooming gangs obviously exist but those made up of mainly Pakistani men have very specific characteristics).

It would make the inquiry into the Pakistani grooming gangs impossible to run.

Are they angry because they haven’t got a job, housing, enough food?

That link does not have any mention of what you stated was a majority view in Nigeria (kicking your child out if they were gay?)

How has it “being overrun with African people” caused harm? (Genuine question by the way.)

You are discussing it now though? It’s regularly discussed online, in the right-wing (and even left-wing) press.i

It’s possibly one of the number one topics of public conversation so I am trying to understand how all of this is evidence of discussion being shut down.

Personally, I think it could also be to do with the lack of integration. This hasn’t been spoken about as much as the crimes asylum seekers have been committed. I wonder if people perceive it as a threat to resources as well, such as getting housing or jobs.

This.

The tone of the pile on is always really, really nasty as well.

In the real world, I think there's a lot going on. For example, I read that the far right wanted to stage a march in Whitechapel. They weren't allowed, and instead the council had a festival with acts from all the diverse communities that make the area up. Which is a far nicer thing to do than be ripped to bits by keyboard warriors, tbh.

Screenshot from the first "sage" link

Yeah, no I understand it’s a genuine question. I don’t know - I’d have to ask my family members but they’ve lived here for years - me, my whole life, I would hazard a guess that it has just become unrecognisable as a community? I don’t know. I will ask my Grandparents the next time I see them what they think.

Yes. I think that would be a reasonable expectation - it’s quite stunning that you don’t.

The government has a responsibility to protect British citizens first. Letting in people that hate us, want to murder some or lots of us and spread terror is not acceptable.

It is their problem to sort out but they need to sort it. Islamic terrorist attacks and murders by men from countries where violence reigns have cost many lives over the last 20 years.

How have they not integrated?

So nowhere that they would kick them out then?

You’re not a fan of free speech are you.

The previous iteration of Twitter banned ordinary women for pointing out that men aren’t women. I’m guessing you would like to return to that time.

Good questions. I’ll ask family what they think. Perceptions within communities are important I feel.