To wonder where the left has gone?

[KenAdams]

Ironically, this is somewhat of a rant.

Is everyone too scared to stand up to the constant hate filled rants for fear of being called "woke"?

Is the constant inference that VAWG is only perpetrated by brown men not worth standing up to?

Is the rhetoric that all of our problems are caused only by small boats and not legal migration or billionaires not problematic? For the record, I believe it is a problem, but not the only problem and not even the biggest problem. I believe the system is the problem.

The increasingly hostile movement against anyone that is non white is making people fearful of going about their every day lives and people seem to just want to sit on the sidelines and refuse to call it out.

Where is everyone?

I feel like this post might turn into a gaslighting shit show, but fuck it, I've had enough.

It's a shame you didn't watch to the end.

The buyout of X has given people the impression that they can spout their hate for everyone to see and there should be no repercussions. As you can see, this has had a knock on effect for all online media, and even real life discourse.

Banning X has to be the start if we are to take back control of the narrative from the far right and I don’t care if that is a violation of freedom of speech.

Oh the irony. No, I don’t have any sympathy for the ‘side’ who shouted ‘far right Nazi bigots’ at any women who daren’t suggest that women should have rights too, who got them cancelled, sacked etc. I agree it’s not nice to feel silenced, to be unable to voice your concern, because the left have made damn sure women weren’t allowed to do that for a decade.

Why keep making this argument?

Theres nothing we can do about the homegrown criminal population. We’re stuck with it. But we persist in allowing large numbers of men into this country from very different cultures, with very different values - we can do something about that, yet don’t. Why not? We persist in making a bad problem even worse.

Oh Keir. It’s too late. We are all too skint now to be kind I’m afraid.

Yep ban discussion unless it is views that agree with yours. Sounds like a fair and free society.

I listened and I understand. But again why specifically just migrants? What has he done generally about VAWG? He seems surprised that teenagers get harassed by men?

Wasn't the main driver for the increase around then due to ukraine, Hong Kong and study reasons? Not saying other things didn't happen and all should be reviewed but context is essential

You don’t care that people are having problems, or want to know about the difficulties they face - you just don’t want them to talk about them, and would rather they piped down. Sounds like a recipe for disaster.

I also think there is a lot of pent up white rage about all the attention and support POC got during Black Lives Matter when society was different and they couldn’t be openly racist. 5 years on the floodgates have opened

X is one of the only platforms where you actually get the opportunity to see what people actually think. Whether you like what you see or not.

Depends if they’re real problems or racist group think though doesn’t it?

lots of Germans thought they had problems with Jews too.

People of different cultures have different values.

It is by (Conservative) design. When we left the EU, we adopted a points-based system based on skills shortages, which we now administer. If we want fewer hairdressers, care workers, nurses, etc., then we can remove them from the list. We will either pay more for those services, have fewer of them or both - but it is our choice. This is what taking back control meant. It is also worth noting that this is what is happening under the current government.

It’s not for you to decide if their problems are ‘real’ or not. They’re entitled to speak about them. It doesn’t matter whether you like what they have to say or not.

Rather an echo chamber in itself though isn't it? With proven algorithm which promote /restrict certain views
And a high % of bits etc

As far as I'm aware we are not holding up signs saying "bring us your homophobes" are we? We are carrying out our obligations towards people seeking asylum, some of whom may come from countries where homphobia is rife. Some of whom may themselves be homophobes. Some of whom may be gay. Whether we believe our country should have these obligations is a different matter. At present we do.
This doesn't in any way need to change our own stance on homophobia. I would be quite comfortable standing up for gay rights against a very religious person from any religion that was anti gay rights. I could manage to do this without making negative generalisations about people based on their ethnicity, which is racist.

We've had a right or centre-right government for the last 15 years FFS.

It might be commonplace but I have no trouble believing that it’s much worse in these areas. I worked in a part of Glasgow that had a large Pakistani muslim immigrant population and the harassment was far worse than I’ve experienced anywhere else. It was daily, sometimes multiple times daily just because I dared to go out alone for lunch. If I walked ten minutes further I’d find myself in the wealthier area with the fancy delis and cafes and no one ever troubled me there.

And yes I’ve been harassed elsewhere but I was harassed more in one week than I have in my entire life and that’s the truth no matter how unpalatable it may be.

I agree with you OP.

I feel so many people in this country have fallen for the anti- anyone non white people rhetoric that’s been spouted out by mainstream news and politics. I don’t even know how to begin standing up to them as I am faced with so much vitriol as a result that it overwhelms me.

I only ever see this stuff on the Internet in the real world everyone is just getting on with their lives. I also think most people are in the middle and can see good and bad on both sides. I find it odd to be so fixated on one side that you would agree and defend everything they do.

We really haven’t…

I was a Labour voter for years. As many have mentioned above - they lost me when they stopped listening and I saw for myself what was actually happening. I remember thinking how unfortunate for Gordon Brown when he got caught calling that woman a bigot. Then, I worked in a working class community and saw for them that the impact of migration was very different than it was for me.

I struggle to believe that the left think what they are doing is working, rather they think it's the nicer option. See women's rights. Or frankly - benefits. We all know people aren't getting off benefits, but instead I'll be shouted down. I've seen it in my DHs family, or neighbours I've had. I can't see myself voting left again as I just don't think it works.

I honestly think an average life in 2025 is people having to put up with parents regurgitating bollocks from GB news and talking about how great trump is.

what did Tim waltz say? Arguing with your weird uncle at thanksgiving.

An echo chamber is essentially a lot of people agreeing with each other.

believe me, from someone who has moved frim the left to the centre over the years, tiktok is far far worse for removing comments that aren’t woke.