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Another day, another clown show - Epping asylum seeker and rapist released from Prison ‘by mistake’

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WildLimePoet · 24/10/2025 18:12

You literally couldn’t make this shit up.

This country is broken.

Reform should send David Lamey a big thankyou note for this gift.

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EsmaCannonball · 24/10/2025 20:04

NeedAnyHelpWithThatPaperBag · 24/10/2025 19:46

The life in countries that some of these people come from has rendered some of them brutalised and traumatised. I don't know what the answer is but it probably isn't a welcome mat.

One suspects they are responsible for a lot of the brutalising and traumatising and that's why they are the ones with the wherewithal to migrate.

Mamalasira · 24/10/2025 20:04

One of the young men in the asylum hotel in Bournemouth was found to have a valid Swedish passport. However, he said things were "getting difficult" for migrants in Sweden.

Dollymylove · 24/10/2025 20:05

AmyDudley · 24/10/2025 18:23

They were men who committed crimes, the BBC doesn't actually have to say they are asylum seekers. Far more men who are not asylum seekers commit crimes against women every day. They aren't reported as 'man who a born and bred in UK commits crime'. why not ?

And David Lammy is hardly personally responsible for a mistale by a prison ( a prison system the tories had more than enough time to reform but did nothing about.)

Because if these undocumented men hadn't illegally broken into the country then these victims wouldn't have been raped and poor Rhiannon wouldnt have been murdered kn the most horrible way imaginable.
And virtue signallers like you would have to find some other "worthy cause" to bleat about

EasternStandard · 24/10/2025 20:07

Dollymylove · 24/10/2025 20:05

Because if these undocumented men hadn't illegally broken into the country then these victims wouldn't have been raped and poor Rhiannon wouldnt have been murdered kn the most horrible way imaginable.
And virtue signallers like you would have to find some other "worthy cause" to bleat about

Nonsense isn’t it. They’d protect Lammy and Labour over women and girls.

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 24/10/2025 20:07

BoredZelda · 24/10/2025 19:55

You think it makes any difference at all to the victim? I doubt his status is high on her list of things to be thinking about.

I live in the town where it happened. It is very relevant. Women no longer walk their dogs or run in the forest. Secondary school children have to be collected from school. This is a massive logistical issue for parents. He did not need to be here, and he did not need to be housed in a hotel, slap bang next to the local high school, in the town. There are houses which are currently unsellable due to being near this facility. How dare anyone sit at their keyboard and say it’s not relevant. It’s an imported threat which has been landed on a small town, and for this poor girl, the threat was realised. It has massively affected her and her family. As has the home office fighting the local people to overturn the decision to close the hotel. I can’t think of many other ways the government could have made it clear the victim does not matter.

PreciousTatas · 24/10/2025 20:07

Some nationalities are convicted of some crimes at a disproportionate rate. You cannot extrapolate they are more likely to commit the crime without looking at everything that happens up to that point. You first need to take into account the institutional racism of the police

With all due respect. Bollocks.

Perhaps you don't understand, as someone who had to flee a country where women have no value, let me enlighten you.

Unaccompanied women and children are there to be raped. If their men don't look after their possessions then they are considered a worthless whore. If a woman is raped and admits it she will most likely be killed, if she survived the attack in the first place. If her husband and family are very kind she will just be shunned and outcast. Women have no rights. Children are disposable.

My father fled with us because he didn't want that life for his wife and daughters. I am beyond grateful to have been able to grow up safely here and given opportunities I would never have been. My elderly mother in increasingly worried that our homelands problems are being imported wholesale to the UK.

If you genuinely believe that men come from countries where women are seen as nothing, and suddenly start acting like women are equal, you are incredibly naive, and stupid.

MissKitty0 · 24/10/2025 20:10

To people who want to naively pretend we’re all a blank slate and British people are as likely to commit sexual offences it’s just not true.

Another day, another clown show - Epping asylum seeker and rapist released from Prison ‘by mistake’
Puzzledandpissedoff · 24/10/2025 20:12

Get a load of people on the Calais coast permanently and just concentrate on confiscating boats. We are paying them to do something to this effect no?!

Sounds good doesn't it @Randomesttnought?
Except there's a problem in that keeping these men in France is hardly in their interests, which may explain footage of French authorities merely watching on as boats depart

BoredZelda · 24/10/2025 20:12

TonTonMacoute · 24/10/2025 19:57

I'm so fucking fed up of this argument.

All it's saying we have a problem with male violence against women already so it doesn't matter if we give free access to women to even more men from other countries? Is that what you are saying?

No, all it’s saying is, if we are so concerned about violence against women, how come we aren’t making the same amount of noise about our homegrown problem? How come people are demanding something is done about this group of men but aren’t protesting outside bars, and schools, and nightclubs, and churches and… every other place women and girls are regularly assaulted?

Here’s another thought. Look at the demographics of the Sarah Everard vigil, v the Epping Forest protest. Both groups claim it’s about violence against women, but how one was largely attended by women, and the other largely not.

Find any social media post about women being assaulted and look at the comments, then find one about a woman being attacked by an immigrant and see the difference. The first will have a plethora of men victim blaming, saying how you can’t do anything these days, PC gone mad etc, the second will claim we have to send these guys back to protect our women and girls.

Why, all of a sudden, do we have so many men coming out and defending women, decrying violence against women, saying something must be done?

I’m fucking fed up of the argument too, because it is so bloody transparent and anyone who still thinks this has anything to do with women is either being fooled by the self interest groups whipping up this argument or are fooling themselves about where they really stand on this issue.

Mamalasira · 24/10/2025 20:14

That's actually horrifying, @MissKitty0 .
However - how do women live in Afghanistan? With no human rights whatsoever.
As chattel.
Now with no midwifery services, nor the right to speak outside the home.

HedwigEliza · 24/10/2025 20:14

It's utterly farcical how incompetent every public institution seems to be. Almost as if they’ve thrown in the towel, have given up on finding solutions and dealing with our problems so secretly would prefer Farage to be in charge making the decisions instead.

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 24/10/2025 20:15

BoredZelda · 24/10/2025 20:12

No, all it’s saying is, if we are so concerned about violence against women, how come we aren’t making the same amount of noise about our homegrown problem? How come people are demanding something is done about this group of men but aren’t protesting outside bars, and schools, and nightclubs, and churches and… every other place women and girls are regularly assaulted?

Here’s another thought. Look at the demographics of the Sarah Everard vigil, v the Epping Forest protest. Both groups claim it’s about violence against women, but how one was largely attended by women, and the other largely not.

Find any social media post about women being assaulted and look at the comments, then find one about a woman being attacked by an immigrant and see the difference. The first will have a plethora of men victim blaming, saying how you can’t do anything these days, PC gone mad etc, the second will claim we have to send these guys back to protect our women and girls.

Why, all of a sudden, do we have so many men coming out and defending women, decrying violence against women, saying something must be done?

I’m fucking fed up of the argument too, because it is so bloody transparent and anyone who still thinks this has anything to do with women is either being fooled by the self interest groups whipping up this argument or are fooling themselves about where they really stand on this issue.

Your ignorance is shining, tbh. It’s well known that the Epping protests have been massively driven by women each week. They are still ongoing, btw.

Sorry if this doesn’t fit your worldly, liberal viewpoint.

Whatifitallgoesright · 24/10/2025 20:16

No, he's not allowed to be rearrested. That would he racist.

rockstarshoes · 24/10/2025 20:18

It makes you think that if this has happened in such a high profile case how often does it happen with all the others?

i don’t actually care whether he’s an asylum seeker or a home grown sex offender but ffs!

PeonyPatch · 24/10/2025 20:19

What a cock up

LoveSundays · 24/10/2025 20:19

PreciousTatas · 24/10/2025 20:07

Some nationalities are convicted of some crimes at a disproportionate rate. You cannot extrapolate they are more likely to commit the crime without looking at everything that happens up to that point. You first need to take into account the institutional racism of the police

With all due respect. Bollocks.

Perhaps you don't understand, as someone who had to flee a country where women have no value, let me enlighten you.

Unaccompanied women and children are there to be raped. If their men don't look after their possessions then they are considered a worthless whore. If a woman is raped and admits it she will most likely be killed, if she survived the attack in the first place. If her husband and family are very kind she will just be shunned and outcast. Women have no rights. Children are disposable.

My father fled with us because he didn't want that life for his wife and daughters. I am beyond grateful to have been able to grow up safely here and given opportunities I would never have been. My elderly mother in increasingly worried that our homelands problems are being imported wholesale to the UK.

If you genuinely believe that men come from countries where women are seen as nothing, and suddenly start acting like women are equal, you are incredibly naive, and stupid.

💯 agree with you.

I just think some of these (and it is mainly white) women are just very naive about how the world actually is.
They can't seem to comprehend how women and girls are treated in other parts of the world.

Birlingsaresnobs · 24/10/2025 20:20

Noodledog · 24/10/2025 19:24

If you really can't see any connection between the two stories, I don't think any kind of explanation- no matter how simple I try to make it for you- is going to help.

And I know perfectly well you're not interested in an explanation. You just want to shut people up. Because you've decided that the safety of women and girls is so far down your list of priorities, that you'll actively try to shut up people who do care about it. Because, for whatever deluded reason, you've decided that that makes you a good person. Hint: it doesn't.

Don't be so sillly. I am a woman , I am a parent and Grandparent. Of course I'm concerned about safety.

Randomesttnought · 24/10/2025 20:20

Puzzledandpissedoff · 24/10/2025 20:12

Get a load of people on the Calais coast permanently and just concentrate on confiscating boats. We are paying them to do something to this effect no?!

Sounds good doesn't it @Randomesttnought?
Except there's a problem in that keeping these men in France is hardly in their interests, which may explain footage of French authorities merely watching on as boats depart

Yes quite. So we should not pay them for this weaponised incompetence and we should not be playing nice with them. We should also question whether they are our friends here.

If we cant get on French soil. Then we need to send the navy out to stand in the channel. Rescue them once in international waters. Turn off the engine when the tide has turned and float back into french waters. Oh here is the safest shore to return them too.

PeonyPatch · 24/10/2025 20:21

BoredZelda · 24/10/2025 20:12

No, all it’s saying is, if we are so concerned about violence against women, how come we aren’t making the same amount of noise about our homegrown problem? How come people are demanding something is done about this group of men but aren’t protesting outside bars, and schools, and nightclubs, and churches and… every other place women and girls are regularly assaulted?

Here’s another thought. Look at the demographics of the Sarah Everard vigil, v the Epping Forest protest. Both groups claim it’s about violence against women, but how one was largely attended by women, and the other largely not.

Find any social media post about women being assaulted and look at the comments, then find one about a woman being attacked by an immigrant and see the difference. The first will have a plethora of men victim blaming, saying how you can’t do anything these days, PC gone mad etc, the second will claim we have to send these guys back to protect our women and girls.

Why, all of a sudden, do we have so many men coming out and defending women, decrying violence against women, saying something must be done?

I’m fucking fed up of the argument too, because it is so bloody transparent and anyone who still thinks this has anything to do with women is either being fooled by the self interest groups whipping up this argument or are fooling themselves about where they really stand on this issue.

I agree with this.

People are pushing this “anti vawg” rhetoric but it’s actually hiding a deep seated xenophobia imo

TheExcitersblowingupmymind · 24/10/2025 20:21

rockstarshoes · 24/10/2025 20:18

It makes you think that if this has happened in such a high profile case how often does it happen with all the others?

i don’t actually care whether he’s an asylum seeker or a home grown sex offender but ffs!

Probably more than we know, that's why I was asking about the procedure and knowledge from prison staff.
If it is complex then could understand someone perhaps new to it making a fuck up.

Sugarpopsicle · 24/10/2025 20:21

Randomesttnought · 24/10/2025 19:51

It’s funny because the literal one person they had to actually deport promptly they have ‘lost’. How?!?! How do you lose someone in prison. Particularly the one person who arguably was the tipping point for the largest social uprising across this country in decades.

And anger. I have been so so angry. But it really is getting to the point that very little surprises, shocks or angers me now. I just think this country is pathetic. Completely and utterly useless and incompetent. And that’s laugh or cry. I am not going to cry over this. So I have laughed. Very loudly in my kitchen.

Same. That’s also how I felt when I read the story of the Iranian asylum seeker who was returned to France, and then hopped back to Britain again several weeks later, on a small boat. It’s beyond parody.

Zanzara · 24/10/2025 20:21

IdaGlossop · 24/10/2025 19:12

Throw some Cumberland sauce on them. That's the way to calm them down.

ODFOD.

safetyfreak · 24/10/2025 20:22

I have a family member who works for the police, and she told me there are multiple rapes committed by asylum seekers in the area, but most of them are kept hush-hush from the public.

We don't know the half of it.

EasternStandard · 24/10/2025 20:22

BoredZelda · 24/10/2025 20:12

No, all it’s saying is, if we are so concerned about violence against women, how come we aren’t making the same amount of noise about our homegrown problem? How come people are demanding something is done about this group of men but aren’t protesting outside bars, and schools, and nightclubs, and churches and… every other place women and girls are regularly assaulted?

Here’s another thought. Look at the demographics of the Sarah Everard vigil, v the Epping Forest protest. Both groups claim it’s about violence against women, but how one was largely attended by women, and the other largely not.

Find any social media post about women being assaulted and look at the comments, then find one about a woman being attacked by an immigrant and see the difference. The first will have a plethora of men victim blaming, saying how you can’t do anything these days, PC gone mad etc, the second will claim we have to send these guys back to protect our women and girls.

Why, all of a sudden, do we have so many men coming out and defending women, decrying violence against women, saying something must be done?

I’m fucking fed up of the argument too, because it is so bloody transparent and anyone who still thinks this has anything to do with women is either being fooled by the self interest groups whipping up this argument or are fooling themselves about where they really stand on this issue.

Ridiculous. Stop deflecting. This issue affects women and girls.

TheGander · 24/10/2025 20:22

I see they are going to sentence the Sudanese murderer “ when they have determined his real age”. So another one of his achievements was pretending to be a minor to advance his asylum case.

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