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Another day, another clown show - Epping asylum seeker and rapist released from Prison ‘by mistake’

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WildLimePoet · 24/10/2025 18:12

You literally couldn’t make this shit up.

This country is broken.

Reform should send David Lamey a big thankyou note for this gift.

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hattie43 · 26/10/2025 03:32

AmyDudley · 24/10/2025 18:23

They were men who committed crimes, the BBC doesn't actually have to say they are asylum seekers. Far more men who are not asylum seekers commit crimes against women every day. They aren't reported as 'man who a born and bred in UK commits crime'. why not ?

And David Lammy is hardly personally responsible for a mistale by a prison ( a prison system the tories had more than enough time to reform but did nothing about.)

Read the Room . Just because other men commit crimes doesn’t mean we want to import more . Hardly showing gratitude for reaching here are they . People like you are part of the problem, I’m guessing you don’t live in an area with lots of Asylum seekers .

RingoJuice · 26/10/2025 04:30

hattie43 · 26/10/2025 03:32

Read the Room . Just because other men commit crimes doesn’t mean we want to import more . Hardly showing gratitude for reaching here are they . People like you are part of the problem, I’m guessing you don’t live in an area with lots of Asylum seekers .

It’s like the easiest way to prevent crimes against women. Don’t import men from more misogynistic societies. That’s literally all you have to do.

(no, I won’t care about the refugee men more)

CoffeeCantata · 26/10/2025 05:40

Horses7 · 25/10/2025 23:52

Beggars belief 🤦‍♀️
Would a chat and a cup of tea prevented the other AS stabbing a young mother 23 times with a screwdriver - he was found guilty yesterday thanks to forensic evidence, he denied if all of course.

To me, the most horrific aspect was that he was then seen on CCTV dancing happily in the car park, as if nothing had happened.

To him this mother was nothing - just a random woman he stabbed to death for fun. Either he was a complete psychopath who needs to be locked up for everyone’s safety or his culture had led him to think that women, unless under the protection and rule of a man, are worthless and dispensable.

CoffeeCantata · 26/10/2025 05:42

RingoJuice · 26/10/2025 04:30

It’s like the easiest way to prevent crimes against women. Don’t import men from more misogynistic societies. That’s literally all you have to do.

(no, I won’t care about the refugee men more)

It does make me very sceptical about single, strong, fit young men. What are they even doing here? They’re hardly vulnerable and oppressed.

Ablushingcrow · 26/10/2025 06:14

BoredZelda · 24/10/2025 19:37

Some nationalities are convicted of some crimes at a disproportionate rate. You cannot extrapolate they are more likely to commit the crime without looking at everything that happens up to that point. You first need to take into account the institutional racism of the police, and the inherent if not racism, then racial bias of society.

If a woman meets a guy in a bar, and she has a few drinks, then he assaults her on the way home, statistically, that crime has a very low chance of being reported. Will they believe her, will they be treated with kindness and compassion, what will her friends and family say?

Once she has reported it, she faces the judicial system, what is the likelihood the CPS bring a case, what will the court case be like, will they tear her to shreds, will the jury believe her?

When you put both of those sets of questions to a situation where it is standard white guy, or an asylum seeker/refugee/immigrant from a country which is deemed to be full of men who assault women, which one do you think is more likely to be reported for, and then convicted of the crime?

Study after study shows that black or brown men are far more likely to be convicted of a crime and the sentence will be longer, than white men in the same situation. This doesn’t mean they are more likely to commit the crimes.

But let’s, for the sake of argument, say you are correct and these men pose a higher than average risk to women. Even if we sent every single one of them out of the country, the affect it would have on the numbers of assaults that were committed would barely be a blip.

Reform, and the other groups of people who are making this about women are weaponising female violence for their own aims. They are doing nothing to prevent female violence and in fact, data shows a high proportion of those arrested at protests have domestic violence convictions.

You might not have a problem with refugees and immigrants being here other than this one issue. You might believe if none of them ever committed a crime, you’d be happy with them staying, you might not be racially motivated, but the people who are standing beside you are racist, they do want to see everyone sent out of the country, and some of those are very far to the right and have some even more extreme views on immigrants (well, the black and brown ones at least) Are you happy to walk along side them? If the answer is yes, you might want to ask yourself why.

Word salad anyone?

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 06:25

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CoffeeCantata · 26/10/2025 06:27

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Where exactly?

You should report racism if you see it. I certainly would.

PreciousTatas · 26/10/2025 06:40

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Oh look. A reasoned and sane argument. Not.

Its depressingly predicatable, the kind of young men who want to shut women up. On the left or right, why are they always exactly the same.

It makes you wonder about the point of this post. It obviously isn't to bring anyone around to their point of view.

EasternStandard · 26/10/2025 06:44

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Violence and silencing won’t help.

Women and girls don’t have to say ok to threats to safety anymore.

Swiftasthewind · 26/10/2025 07:03

EasternStandard · 26/10/2025 06:44

Violence and silencing won’t help.

Women and girls don’t have to say ok to threats to safety anymore.

Silencing absolutely would help. Some opinions quite frankly are too disgusting for society and anti immigrant rhetoric is chief among them. Hate is never acceptable, in any form. It should be illegal.

Wishing14 · 26/10/2025 07:09

@Swiftasthewindhow would you feel if someone raped or murdered your daughter? You wouldn’t hate them? Some of your own views put forward in this thread could be interpreted as hateful

Wimin123 · 26/10/2025 07:10

ColinOfficeTrolley · 24/10/2025 18:41

2 women a week in the UK alone are murdered by men they know.

Are you up in arms about that?

Women will get murdered and raped daily whether illegal immigrants are here or not.

I agree that immigration is a massive issue, but let's not pretend women and girls would be safe if all male asylum seekers disappeared tomorrow.

Yes but let’s not pretend that it’s a lot worse now. The murder by the asylum seeker was so disgustingly brutal - completely savage. The poor young woman’s family - imagine losing your daughter/sister/mum like this. Seeing him dancing with his hotel mates with the ambulance lights in the background was horrifying. Women and girls don’t count. I don’t understand why some people want to keep burying their heads in the sand.

RingoJuice · 26/10/2025 07:14

Swiftasthewind · 26/10/2025 07:03

Silencing absolutely would help. Some opinions quite frankly are too disgusting for society and anti immigrant rhetoric is chief among them. Hate is never acceptable, in any form. It should be illegal.

A foreign male stabbed a young mother in the head with a screwdriver. We won’t be silent over it.

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 07:15

EasternStandard · 26/10/2025 06:44

Violence and silencing won’t help.

Women and girls don’t have to say ok to threats to safety anymore.

You are threatening me, an immigrant women.

Vomiting in disgust at that isn't violence.

RingoJuice · 26/10/2025 07:16

Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 07:15

You are threatening me, an immigrant women.

Vomiting in disgust at that isn't violence.

Don’t take it personally. She’s not threatening you.

Wimin123 · 26/10/2025 07:17

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 24/10/2025 19:45

the risk of one rapist is not worth one consultant.

I don’t think the chap who stabbed the young woman with a screwdriver 23 times and to her head was a budding neurosurgeon. More likely to need the services of one on the good old NHS.

Pianoaholic · 26/10/2025 07:22

PetuniaT · 25/10/2025 22:13

...and did you see Mariella Frostrup on Question Time saying that we are "dehumanising immigrants"?

Yes, I mentioned it on page 4 of this thread.
I was shouting at the tv at that point (which often happens when Question Time is on!)

Wimin123 · 26/10/2025 07:22

AmyDudley · 24/10/2025 18:23

They were men who committed crimes, the BBC doesn't actually have to say they are asylum seekers. Far more men who are not asylum seekers commit crimes against women every day. They aren't reported as 'man who a born and bred in UK commits crime'. why not ?

And David Lammy is hardly personally responsible for a mistale by a prison ( a prison system the tories had more than enough time to reform but did nothing about.)

I think many women are tired of your type of gaslighting now thanks. I watched a representative from Amnesty International this week declare that France was not a safe country. I think I am living in some sort of parallel universe.

WildLimePoet · 26/10/2025 07:31

Ablushingcrow · 26/10/2025 06:14

Word salad anyone?

With a sanctimonious glee dressing and a side of virtue signalling.

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Starconundrum · 26/10/2025 07:34

It's funny how the far right insult people by telling them they're too nice.

WildLimePoet · 26/10/2025 07:34

Swiftasthewind · 26/10/2025 07:03

Silencing absolutely would help. Some opinions quite frankly are too disgusting for society and anti immigrant rhetoric is chief among them. Hate is never acceptable, in any form. It should be illegal.

Which is why you, the most hateful person on the thread is the most dangerous out of all. People holding your views are the biggest threat to women today. Shameful and disgusting.

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WildLimePoet · 26/10/2025 07:38

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Here you go ladies, this is what the far left thinks of you for speaking out for your safety. This is how misogynistic they are.

They would rather women who speak out were raped than defend their safety. And when you do speak out, this is what they call us.

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Redty10 · 26/10/2025 07:39

WildLimePoet · 25/10/2025 23:56

True, clearly a disturbed or bored individual.

Or just bat shit crazy!

WildLimePoet · 26/10/2025 07:39

RingoJuice · 26/10/2025 07:16

Don’t take it personally. She’s not threatening you.

No she’s just threatening every woman on the thread. Disgusting, vile misogynist.

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EasternStandard · 26/10/2025 07:40

Swiftasthewind · 26/10/2025 07:03

Silencing absolutely would help. Some opinions quite frankly are too disgusting for society and anti immigrant rhetoric is chief among them. Hate is never acceptable, in any form. It should be illegal.

Rhiannon’s son doesn’t have his mother due to a horrific crime. Your posts won’t wash.

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