Another day, another clown show - Epping asylum seeker and rapist released from Prison ‘by mistake’

[WildLimePoet]

You literally couldn’t make this shit up.

This country is broken.

Reform should send David Lamey a big thankyou note for this gift.

Yes but they were debunked when you take into consideration that British men just aren’t as likely to be arrested for crimes whereas people of colour are more likely.

Humans are fundamentally the same no matter where you are, therefore any discrepancy is accounted for by personal bias or socioeconomic status of the individuals in question.

Humans are fundamentally the same no matter where you are

Then why did my family have to flee to the UK. What is it about the UK that made it safer here for women, that meant my mother and I would have rights, that we couldn't be raped in the street with no consequences.

Magic soil? Or the people?

Trusted sources like the Guardian and the BBC?! Is this a wind up?

For the BeKind brigade they certainly do.

This is so disingenuous. You are shying away from the empirical evidence that there may be a cultural dimension to these crimes due to the attitudes of men recently arrived from highly misogynistic and violent societies.

Imagine believing this in current year.

Humans are actually diverse. Didn’t the left used to say this?

LOL

If fundamentally the same can you see any difference here with say Afghanistan for women and girls?

Cultures vary hugely, though. I’ve just seen an ad for a charity which tries to prevent little girls being forcibly married to men old enough to be their grandfathers. Some of these girls die or are dreadfully injured by pregnancy.

We don’t know what kind of cultural values some of these young single men have. Of course it’s possible they will not understand that say, young, lone women are not available. Some cultures Dont value oOne women especially when they’re ou5 in public.

lone women..

But thats not true, people are affected by the norms that they grow up with. So the more misogynistic a culture a man grows up in, the more chance he has of adopting those views. They also are likely to have more of an expectation of getting away with sexual assault, having grown up in places where it was very normalised. I suspect the only reason even more british men don't commit sexual crimes is that they don't want to be arrested and imprisoned. This country already had massive issues with misogyny, I don't think allowing a lot of men in from far more misogynistic countries and then calling anyone who objects racist is a very good idea. I think we should be accepting predominantly female asylum seekers, not predominantly male. The women have a hell of a lot more to flee from!

Yes and when they come to our country then they adapt to our culture. If they commit a crime in this country then there really is no telling if it was their culture or our culture that encouraged them to commit the crimes.

Like with the grooming gangs. The perpetrators were born here in Britain and raised here, so why people are so keen to somehow blame Pakistan for their awful crimes is beyond me. We should be looking at what it is in our culture that allowed people to behave like this. Do you understand what I am getting at now?

If you can bring yourself to, please read the accounts of these vulnerable girls and the grooming gangs. You will perhaps get a clearer picture of exactly what went on.
You'll need a strong stomach though.

I have a weak constitution unfortunately, I don’t think I could stomach reading the accounts of horrible things happening to anybody 😥

@Swiftasthewindthis is truly laughable that you are saying that immigrants automatically adapt to our culture just from being in the country. It’s just not true of many communities unfortunately. As an example, around 40 per cent of British Pakistani Muslims are married to a relatively close cousin (which would be utterly abhorrent to the average Brit), a very high proportion of the Somali community do not vaccinate their children (and not because they have watched TikTok, but because of a belief in witchcraft) and there are still communities in Britain where FGM is still practised. Your position that people just lose their cultural practices, for good or bad, is simply not borne out in many cases - look at Brits abroad!

And @Swiftasthewindunfortunately most of the men in the grooming scenarios had British citizenship but were born abroad, largely in Pakistan.

Wise to avoid. 😥

@Swiftasthewind Humans are fundamentally the same no matter where you are, therefore any discrepancy is accounted for by personal bias or socioeconomic status of the individuals in question.

False. Different populations of people around the globe have different sets of values and ethics. That's the reason why this paedophile thought nothing of trying to kiss 14 year old girls in public places.

I imagine you're one of the people who thinks that men who commit crimes aren't actually bad people, they're just "misunderstood." Just like Beauty and the Beast, right?

You are trolling

Honestly,you really couldn't make it up. To 'accidentally' release such a high profile prisoner beggars belief.

Have you not clocked that there is an issue with som people being very resistant to adapting? The grooming gangs are an example of a group which was very inward-looking - maybe restricted the freedom of their own female relatives etc but saw poor whit girls as fair game.

You must be very sheltered no5 to know this! I’ve worked in education all my life and there have been many instances of mothers and grannies expected to stay within the home and actively discouraged from learning English.

It can be done.

Didn't take long for the apologists to appear.

How? Or is that privileged information 😂

Very true.

We still have places where the women despite living here their whole adult lives seem to speak no English. Their children are not allowed to attend white birthday parties or play dates and white children are not invited to theirs. This is infants and jnr schools where children are hardly out to turn others.

It was very much a shock when we moved that the children outside of school all seemed very segregated, inside we hear stories of playing with all the children with all sorts of names outside its like they did not exist even to play at a communal park together. Very much them and us once the school gates close. Leaving children wondering why Daisy and Ishmael cannot play at the park supervised since again year 4 children. But Daisy and Daniel fine. Ishmael and Sakrah fine.

Where teen girls during year 10/11 go back “home” to be married off and impregnated asap.

Though we do have the nicer sides as well. Our neighbours not British bring us round their favourite treats they make during their festive times very nice treats at that. Not something us brits tend to do either despite it being nice.

But nobody can honestly say someone moved to another country and suddenly they follow all the customs and behave as if they lived in the culture their whole lives. That the person behaved badly because of new local customs rather than still honouring their own values.

When the truth is they value their own customs they grew up with, many not all not even bothering to learn local laws. Including the idiot Brit in Dubai situations.

Some things are good some are not.

@Swiftasthewind "Like with the grooming gangs. The perpetrators were born here in Britain and raised here, so why people are so keen to somehow blame Pakistan for their awful crimes is beyond me. We should be looking at what it is in our culture that allowed people to behave like this. Do you understand what I am getting at now?"

To suggest that cultural influences have no relevance on individuals' behaviour or attitude is extremely foolish. Women in Pakistan are second class citizens and rape is impossible to prove and largely accepted. To even consider that cultural practices and attitudes are not transferred from father to son, just because they are in the UK, is stupidity at its finest. I can only assume you live under a rock. To try and claim (with a straight face) that Asian women are banned from going outdoors, learning English and victims of honour killings because of UK culture is, at the barest minimum, a dreadful disservice to those women.