Another day, another clown show - Epping asylum seeker and rapist released from Prison ‘by mistake’

[WildLimePoet]

You literally couldn’t make this shit up.

This country is broken.

Reform should send David Lamey a big thankyou note for this gift.

Practically invented it? 😂
I wonder what was happening in the Greek, Roman, Assyrian, Medieval Islamic and Spanish Empires before then?.

It's actually worrying, isn't it? Even if some of these things weren't studied at school, who on earth thinks that the British invented slavery! Surely it's very basic knowledge!

You've put it a bit more succinctly than me!

No, sorry @Swiftasthewind You really are wrong. As others have said, the British did not invent slavery - or anything near it - in the 1700s or at any other stage in history.

Look up slavery by any other empire of the past, and you will find out more about slavery than you clearly know at the moment. Keep going back through history, as long as you wish, it's existed for ever.

That doesn't excuse it for a moment, but claiming the British invented it is absurd.

it’s not one or two who have attacked people, maybe if you go by what makes the national news. Women and girls from areas with asylum hotels are facing increased harassment on a daily basis, unable to walk alone on routes they used to because of these men. It’s not an exaggerated claim.

"bias" sources 😂
Do you mean "biased in favour of"?

On a more serious note, away from re-imagining history 🙄- this is the point. It's not a few.

Did David Lammy came to pick him up in a limo to release him? How is the government responsible for this fiadco?

You realise asylum seekers are here LEGALLY and PROTECTING your BORDERS would NOT have CHANGED him BEING here.

Only on mumsnet would you see a debate as to whether it's an issue for a dangerous paedophile to be accidentally released from prison.

Absolutely bonkers.

Has anyone said that it isn't an issue?

Then what's your issue?

Only through structured visa schemes, e.g. the Syrian Vulnerable Persons Resettlement Scheme, where people were screened in embassies once they reached Turkey.
Channel crossings are dangerous and only available to people with the funds to pay traffickers. They are also a direct result of policy decisions made by the last government:
"Before Brexit, the UK could return asylum seekers to their first EU country of arrival under the Dublin III Regulation, a practice that became difficult after leaving the EU. While small boat crossings were low pre-2018, they began to rise significantly after 2018, and the end of the Dublin Regulation meant the UK could no longer use this mechanism to deport people back to an EU country like France, contributing to the post-Brexit increase in arrivals, says BBC."

That all asylum seekers and refugees should not be held accountable for the actions of a criminal few.

Agreed. Let's make safe and legal routes where people can claim asylum without having to be on British soil.

The issue is that a lack of checks and immigration controls means we can't prevent dangerous paedophiles from entering the country, which is a perfectly valid point.

I still don't understand what your issue is, and I suspect you don't know either.

I know exactly what my issue is, as stated in my previous post.

For those interested in the history of slavery, look up the Barbary corsairs. In the 1600s thousands of Britons were captured from coastal towns in England by people from North African Muslim countries, and sold into slavery.

You are far more likely to be attacked by someone you know, like your husband or your brother, than an asylum seeker. These cases only make the news because the right wing press are determined to find anything they can to fault these poor people. We even have very dubious anecdotes from posters on this thread claiming all sorts of likely fabricated things to make people incensed and angry about immigrants when it’s the billionaires we should be focusing on.

Personally I think sites like X are heavily to blame for this rapid change in online culture. Labour need to move quickly and remove access to rogue social media sites that peddle misinformation before it takes root amongst disenfranchised working class communities.

But women and girls I know are unable to walk safely in areas where they once used to due to harassment, in broad daylight. We all know the risks posed by men in general but this was not a daily issue for them before these hotels. They are not being abused by the men in their families (that i know of) but these newly housed men claiming asylum. The women of these areas should have a right to live and work freely as they used to without this added threat to their safety. These men have had a huge negative impact to the local area and shouldn’t have their right to safety prioritised over local women just to be nice.

Under the current system they can't be held accountable for their own actions, either.

Pretty ridiculous (and offensive) for people to harp on and on about racism and slander the entire nation because our elected representatives can't do their jobs.

It's the sense of safety as much as the risk of attack (which is real and tragically violently happened to a woman in my town, Brighton, this month).

On top of which white macho/ patriarchal culture is capitalising on this to further make women feel unsafe (e.g. Homeland party fuelling protests)
With young men in the UK getting caught up in that mind-set and becoming more far right in their thinking.
The people coming across the Channel pay £1,000s to do so. It isn't right and desperately needs sorting out,

I should add i have no idea what the solution is but think about how i’d claim asylum if the time ever came to it. Id probably make my way on an embassy or something and go though official channels that way. I hold dual citizenship with another country so would probably escape there if it wasn’t corrupt 😂

I’m sorry but nobody should be inclined towards believing accounts like this unless featured in trusted sources like the Guardian or on the BBC. I don’t want to call people out and out liars, but anybody can post anything on the internet. We cannot abandon facts and reason because they might corroborate what we feel the world is like. That is not who we should be as civilised people.

Like the poster on this thread living in Epping who described her actual day to day life life living neat the hotel where the missing migrant lived. Is that a “dubious anecdote”?