Another day, another clown show - Epping asylum seeker and rapist released from Prison ‘by mistake’

[WildLimePoet]

You literally couldn’t make this shit up.

This country is broken.

Reform should send David Lamey a big thankyou note for this gift.

I've also taken asylum seekers in and feel somewhat the same.

I don't think anyone is saying that, are they?

... So because some native British men commit crimes, it's ok then to import undocumented young men from cultures where women have no value and just hope it'll go ok?.

Absolutely speechless at this. That poor victim of his gosh knows what she's thinking tonight.

No it’s not worth it. Rhiannon’s little boy shouldn’t have this.

It's absolutely unbelievable, isn't it. Some women are prepared to risk the safety of other girls and women in order to support the continuing migration of thousands of undocumented men.

And the endless whataboutery.

Some PP’s kind of are, yeah.

But you want this system so it’s part of it?

The thing that really scares me is that I have a nasty feeling No 10 don't realise that this is now the top political issue of the day so far as the electorate are concerned.

Starmer has to hang someone out to dry for this or he is toast.

I want the UK to accept asylum seekers. I want the system to be reformed to make it safer and more efficient for everyone.
(I can't believe I need to say this, but) I don't want anyone to be raped, or otherwise harmed.

How many women and girls being attacked is a price worth paying?

It’s not 99.9% are innocent though 🙄 every other day there are stories of women are being dragged off the street and raped by migrants. And that used to be an extremely rare crime as 95% of the time sexual assault is commited by someone you know. And the stats show they’re MUCH more likely to commit these crimes

But the two go hand in hand. Which do you choose?

It is a false choice.
It is like saying the Yorkshire ripper committed multiple rapes, that wouldn't have happened if all men born in Yorkshire were castrated, so do you support that, or are you pro rape?

To do that you’ll need to stop people arriving as they do, likely via a deterrent. Then you can choose and vet as some other countries do.

Or let people be able to claim asylum from abroad, then there will be no motivation for them to arrive as they do.

Do you think you could meet the demand? How many would apply from o/s?

Hooray for Labour! Great tactic bringing them in.. but you know, give them a chance to fix the country blah blah blah.

Everyone who is saying “women will get raped and murdered either way” needs to give their head a wobble.

I got raped by a white man who spiked my drink and raped me whilst I didn’t know what was going on. Thankfully, I’ve only ever been raped once. More rapists in the country gives me more chance of being raped again, which isn’t something I particularly want. Not everybody lives in a leafy West London suburb and drives to the other end of their leafy suburb in their Range Rover for their 9-5 job to make a living before being safely tucked in at home watching Netflix by the time the sun sets. Some of us work minimum wage jobs and commute on a bus in dodgy areas at midnight and get sexually harassed on a daily basis. Some of us live in flats and you might have a single young mother with a baby who’s just escaped their abusive partner but then the person who just moved in to the flat next to her could be a rapist from god know’s where not that you’d know it because they haven’t been vetted, but who cares, she’d been abused by a bloke before so she’s used to it.

That's a ridiculous analogy.

It's not a false choice. Thats the price we have to pay. The question is whether we think its worth it or not. Thankfully, finally, public opinion all over Europe is turning against your position. Shame that we will need a Reform government to implement what's necessary here. But that's a price I will happily pay for 5 years.

Where is that graph from, do you have a link as it does not show up fully on here, when were these stats compiled, Also do you have any links to the reports of women being dragged off the streets and being raped by migrants every other day ? I live in a reasonably large city and have not seen any reports in our local media.

Demand will always be higher than we can sustain, but being able to have your claim heard without having to pay thousands to people smugglers and risk your life would no doubt be a draw to this process.
I'm not an expert, but it cannot be impossible to work out how many refugees we can take in, the criteria for having your claim accepted (I'm assuming that this is laid out in law somewhere), and then process claims abroad?

Why is it ridiculous?

But if you want the UK to accept asylum seekers, and we accept that some of these asylum seekers are going to be rapists or murderers, then you accept that some women or girls will be raped or some people will be murdered as a result of the UK accepting these asylum seekers.

So what number of rape or murder victims is an acceptable price to pay for accepting these asylum seekers? 1 for every 100? 1 for every 1000? 1 for every 10,000?

Personally I think the only acceptable number is zero. I don’t think any British person, be they man, woman or child, should have to sacrifice their life or their safety in the country they were born in so somebody who got here illegally (having passed through at least half a dozen other safe countries) can stay.

And I say that as the proud grandchild of immigrants.