Another day, another clown show - Epping asylum seeker and rapist released from Prison ‘by mistake’

[WildLimePoet]

You literally couldn’t make this shit up.

This country is broken.

Reform should send David Lamey a big thankyou note for this gift.

I used to work in a young girls hostel.
Girls between 16 and 19 who for various reasons left home.
One girl was graped by her dad, she actually only spoke up when he started on her younger sister.
This man married a woman from the far east, seemingly to just have kids and abuse them, he severely controlled his wife and maintained she was insane and abused his own biological daughters.

What do u think the people of that country think of British men? Or u gunna claim that he was just one of a kind?
Oh and the man had a very good job and was highly educated.
So yeah, his culture was middle class British culture, let's put his culture on trial now.
What in his culture made him go to foreign lands and get married to a poor innocent woman and abuse her in every way conceivable and have kids and actually grape them?
Thoughts?

(I think that there is evidence, the government just won’t release it any time soon, but hypothetically, if they did, would this change your view?)

This is a hypothetical situation, as that is not where we are right now.
However, of course asylum seekers should be well vetted before we decide whether or not to grant them asylum, no issues there at all.

Or save a fortune in time, effort and money by not allowing any one of them.

No translation services, no appeal courts, no social housing,
or benefits paid by the taxpayer, no rapes and murder of women, or asking children to come back to the hotel they’re living in to have babies with them. No massive families to come over to join. No worries of walking home of local schoolchildren. No worries of going for a run by the local women. No worries of being followed and stabbed on your way home from hotel by a resident.

And all the money saved could go towards the domestic victims of VAWG

It's all so simple.

Just make the public sector staff responsible for the people they allow into the country.

If rubber stamping the asylum application of a murderer means a UK citizen dies as result, you go to prison for life.

If someone like Deng Majek, already refused asylum in Germany, and after committing a crime in Germany, isn't on a plane straight back to Sudan within days of his arrival here, then the person or persons responsible for letting him roam around a hotel to choose his murder victim are complicit in the murder he committed.

What we need in this country is accountability.

Yes, they need some sort of underground railway to get them out.

I don't doubt that many people in the world need asylum but they aren't the people we get. I just don't believe that most asylum seekers nowadays are asylum seekers. They are economic migrants, often with established crime connections, with the money and the backing to get here. It's a wild west gold rush. It's criminals and chancers abusing the kindness of the old-fashioned, unfit-for-purpose asylum system.

That would be a breech of international law and totally inhumane.
There are lots of ways to save money if we disregard the law.

Good idea. Let the men try to cope on their own.

Yep. Wild West gold rush indeed. Asylum seekers from Algeria, Morocco, Pakistan, Egypt, Albania? They're economic migrants, in the main.

Forgot recent events have we
2003 u invaded Iraq, causing the deaths of a million civilians
And the British government said
Oops we were wrong
Who will ever be held accountable for that?
And Tony Blair just keeps climbing higher and higher
So clearly noone here cares about that little fact
And you also support every conflict going on, apparently there's money to be made whenever there's a conflict
Selling arms, stealing a little natural resource, funding regime change because that paticular president isn't giving us a good deal on exports, we want it for nearly free you know, who cares that other countries also want to live.
If everything was an even playing field, then many countries would be way better off, but unfortunately many have a vested interest in keeping some countries down.
Also, it seems like many countries and people think that being evil is a sign of high intelligence.
If you can manipulate, steal, take advantage off, do it and the other side, well you shouldn't have let me take advantage of you basically
Bunch of bullies unfortunately, foreign policies

‘breech’

😳

Breach. Apologies.

Of course it isn’t. Nor to the many families of women killed by non asylum seekers.
The danger is MEN.

I agree. I took a young male asylum seeker in years back under a scheme. Long story short I doubted whether he was in fact 17, homosexual (found evidence to suggest otherwise) and in danger in his home country, where he eventually went back for holidays. So not very dangerous. Not all asylum seekers of course, but this jaded my view, and unsurprisingly down the line this process continues to be abused and not fit for purpose.

i have not suggested thay I know what man is a danger to women and children and who isn’t by just where they are from, what ethnicity, religion

with large numbers of men coming in and being put in areas together you absolutely have no idea, no knowledge of their possible criminal history, their background. no idea if they shall need monitoring, medical intervention for mh issues, no idea if they have any criminal contacts the information known is absolutely minimal and given the rate men commit violent crimes you straight away increase the risks particularly as you have large numbers of men who have no structure and nothing to do that is a tale as old as time

its a ridiculous comparison to say you are far more likely to be killed by your husband you have far more contact with him that does not take away the issues as stated above

I think we all understand that British men rape and abuse women; what we don't understand is how importing men from violent, lawless, women-oppressing countries is going to improve the situation. It's just dragging us endlessly backwards.

Albania has been named as the newest coolest upcoming holiday destination has it not. Why would you seek asylum from there?

But the culture that a boy is raised in massively affects how he will behave as a man. You must know this, so why do you want to ignore it?

The culture that said men are raised in has a massive bearing. How are you not recognising this?

I’m not ignoring it. I just think we as a society are vilifying young men who are seeking to find better lives. Of course some, unfortunately, may behave appallingly. But so will some from our own culture.

So don’t allow unvetted men in then. We don’t need to prioritise them over women and girls. The system isn’t working.

So let’s say (for example) 99.9% of “asylum seekers” aren’t (known to be) murderers or rapists. That means (for example) 1 in 1000 is definitely a murderer or rapist.

Are we going to tell that rape victim or murder victim’s family that this was <shrug> just the price we have to pay so that the other 999 not-known-to-be-murderers-or-rapists can live here?

Are we really saying to poor Rhiannon’s grieving family, to her little boy, yes it’s such a shame what happened to Rhiannon but hey at least the other 999 guys aren’t confirmed murderers?!

Yup, me too. Despite the accusations of us being horrible racists, I suspect many of us would be quite happy for Afghan women and girls to come to the UK for a chance of a happy life. But that doesn't fit with the agenda. So we're just horrible people.

Aren't women in the UK not entitled to want better lives? Safer streets, less harassment, housing that isn't an HMO, jobs that aren't wage-suppressed?