Another day, another clown show - Epping asylum seeker and rapist released from Prison ‘by mistake’

[WildLimePoet]

You literally couldn’t make this shit up.

This country is broken.

Reform should send David Lamey a big thankyou note for this gift.

From conversations I’ve had in real life, it’s also because some left-leaning people have been waiting years and years for Labour to get back in, and now they’re finally in, they don’t want anything to derail, so if Labour have nailed their colours to the asylum mast, then they’ll find a way to denigrate anyone who fights against this, as their socialist, liberal, ‘progressive’ beliefs outweigh anything, so for the greater good, people need to be quiet, as it may well be a problem, but 14 years of Tory austerity, blah blah means we just need to be pragmatic, and ‘anything but the tories’, GTTO etc, means suck it up, we’ve got bigger problems to sort first and we’ll come back to this.

No.

Only partially.
The treatment of women in these source countries makes me so angry. They have been quite literally trampled underfoot by these men while they leave. And the argument that its not safe for women to make these journeys, they'll get beaten, raped etc. Yes, true. But why isn't it safe? Who exactly is raping and abusing them on the journey?

Funnily enough 2 days ago. I was queuing alongside a young gentleman in a branch of Sainsbury's when I heard the rattle of metal. Before I could get my Nectar out the man was wearing a pair of 'cuffs and being escorted to the managers office. According to the lady on the till it's a daily occurrence, the supermarket being a place of 'essential visit', is used as a pickup point for escaped wrong 'uns

It happens more often than one would hope:

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prisoners-ministry-of-justice-government-wales-labour-b2851866.html

I can't make sense of your qtn, tbh.

Dip your toes into FWR! There are many women who prioritise men’s feelings over women’s. Quite depressing really.

Yes males as a sex class are a problem. Yes we have too many of our own ‘white’ home grown rapists etc etc. No one is ignoring this.

However of course it’s relevant when men from cultures and countries that have completely different views and attitudes that do not align with ours when it comes to women, commit crimes in this country.

Whether they are ‘legal’ asylum seekers (seekers being the word, a new better life is being sought), migrants, doctors or straight off a dingy with no checks into their background whatsoever, whataboutery and ‘you’re oh so racist for even mentioning asylum seekers’ helps absolutely no one.

And I told you: it's privileged information. I won't be drawn further into that.

I really don’t want to make it about race but I always thought culture definitely has an impact. I heard a theory once that because porn primarily involves white women men from more conservative cultures believe that white women are basically all up for it all the time. I call bullshit on that though, you would have to be really stupid to think that having to hold down a woman while she’s terrified or crying is normal or in anyway consent. A few weeks ago I would have said it’s a cultural lack of respect for women, but being on these boards showed me that we have a lack of respect for girls and women's safety too. It has been really eye opening and quite terrifying.

I get really pissed off when I see some of the court statements saying “oh I didn’t realise it was illegal”. In which country is grabbing a girl or woman off the street and raping her legal? It’s the sheer fucking male entitlement to think that whatever they do doesn’t matter.

I think the UK not deporting rapists and murders is exactly why we have this problem. The gulf countries have massive migrant populations and are generally law abiding because anyone who commits a crime knows they are well and truly fucked when the police catch up with them. Here we can’t deport people to places like Afghanistan, pakistan flat refuses to take back it’s criminals. It’s a bloody joke.

Yes it’s very hush hush but I asked another question. Why do Germany, France and ROI have similarly horrendous male crime? presumably they still have access

I have a painting of No10 being run by monkeys. It's called welcome to the circus 🤡 it's very appropriate for the current (and past) state of government.

I don't know as I don't work for those countries. Check their policies :)

‘Privileged information’

so not listening to what its citizens want. Wasting more money

why do they want to ruin the UK

So being in the EU doesn’t help them. Ok…

It is; but I'm amused.

I agree the country is broken but to blame it on a Labour government is ridiculous. They didn’t start governing with all trains/NHS/police/justice system actually working. Whoever was in charge was going to take time to sort things out! Austerity fucked this country and its people and Brexit and Covid just added to it.

Whatever you think I'm sure is right :)

Labour really need a new line on this.

It’s not irrelevant

David Lamy looked angry just now. I wonder if the civil service is there to take successive governments down.

Ok good.

It is to me.

Im just concerned somebody was released incorrectly.

I’m an ethnic minority myself and I really couldn’t give a shit about peoples need to virtue signal. I, my DD, my sisters, my nieces my friends all have to walk the same streets as the rest of the women in the UK. I want them to be safe, I want crimes against girls and women to be treated with some seriousness.

Do I give a shit if someone may be tortured by their government if they are deported for a sexual assualt. Not really. Most normal people who choose to move to a country tend to do so because they want to build a better life for themselves and their families. If you arrive and start assaulting people then I’m going to doubt your sincerity.

God knows if I genuinely needed asylum I’d be grateful to anyone who would have me and do my damn best to not be a burden. The weird thing about that is I fine see white british people saying things like “people shouldn’t feel the need to be greatful”. Yet people who have often come with a genuine wish to become a part of British society often talk with great fondness for Britain. I know my parents did, they were grateful to have been accepted and given the opportunity to build their lives in a country which was significantly less corrupt and sectarian from the one they came from. I’ve seen people who were genuinely being persecuted expressing their gratitude to be given safe harbour. It is a normal human emotion to feel warmly towards people who have helped you.

What you don’t do is start stabbing people.

Yes it’s getting a bit tired. They have the opposite of the midas touch, whatever they come into contact with turns to shit.

OP has put forward a view and is clear about that view. Other people are welcome to put forward and defend their points for discussion. Ideally they will be proper points, not just denial, justification or deflection.

What is your point?