Another day, another clown show - Epping asylum seeker and rapist released from Prison ‘by mistake’

[WildLimePoet]

You literally couldn’t make this shit up.

This country is broken.

Reform should send David Lamey a big thankyou note for this gift.

This thread is about that particular guy though..... its current, on the news, right now thats why its neing discussed. Weird how you are so much in his defence, what is your motive for defending this guy?

Please give this woke nonsense a break. YesUK born individuals commit crimes, but it is a very different mindset. We don’t particularly want them as part of our community. But as they are UK domiciled we can’t ship them out the country, everyone has to belong somewhere.

Just because we jace our own problems doesn’t mean we should import other country’s problems. We have a fight to know who is trying to get into our country, if they commit a crime we have every right to know someone asking to be part of our community is a murderer or rapist.

Illogical, baseless and unfair.

This (and the tragic and shocking Welsh murder) are the news headlines this evening. Of course people are concerned. I. Sorry if it doesn’t fit the world-view of super-privileged commentators like Ms Frostrup.

They are not illegal according to the law.

Yeh I got that was your line. It’s for the best you realise the arguments are faltering.

How can they check crimes in Afghanistan under the Taliban ...

It's a fair question, @easternstandard, but then how can they check the records of anyone if their documents have been disposed of and another identity assumed in their place?

F•cking hell. I’m certainly out. This thread is whipping up so much hatred. I ought to report it really.

As the famous MN saying goes, this is not an airport, you don’t need to announce your departure.

And the old trick to shut down debate by calling people racist and accusing them of ‘whipping up hate’ is overdone now. Try something new.

You do realise that 5 survivors of the grooming gang scandal are in favour of Jess Philips staying? That might mean that it is a complex situation and that the right wing press and Elon Musk who has been targeting her since Jan this year hate strong liberal women.

https://news.sky.com/story/pm-has-confidence-in-jess-phillips-after-grooming-survivors-demanded-her-resignation-13455771

• Almost one in three women will experience domestic abuse, and sexual offences are at the highest level recorded.
• One woman every four days in the UK is murdered by a partner or ex-partner.
• More than 90% of perpetrators of rape and sexual assault are known to their victims.
• One in two rapes against women are carried out by a partner or ex-partner.
• One in three adult survivors of rape experiences it in their own home.

Source Rape Crisis centre England and Wales. They had to issue a statement because racists like to blame migrants for all sexual violence against women and politicising it for their own benefit.

In 2022, 77% of all males prosecuted for indictable offences were from the white ethnic group. source Uk Gov. It may have gone down very slightly since but not that much.
They don’t make differentiation between the types of crime committed. But if we look at the rape crisis statement we can infer that it’s mostly white men.

Exactly.

I don't think I was attacking, or insulting you at all.

You asked for an example of where you were wrong.

I gave it.

I've seen loads of threads on MN on male violence. We all know it's a massive problem.

This particular thread is about immigrants though not about white, British men. It's possible to talk about one group, without talking about the other.

Here we go. I don’t agree with you so I’ll turn and shut you down and get you cancelled. That old woke trick.

I have much better things to be doing than writing on a forum about asylum seekers. Good luck with your comments on the internet, sure it’ll be absolutely life changing stuff.

No one is checked, it’s not possible with states as they are, they don’t give access to crime reports, if they even exist.

Starmer calls them illegal regularly on his SM. He's an ex human rights lawyer and former DPP. He should know.

So we get rid of the 5% and just live with the 95%. Got it. I’m so glad people are doing all they can to protect women from 5% of something and letting the 95% just get on with it. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Oh I’m woke now? Okay 🤣🤣 Jeeez.

No, they'd have raped and killed in a different country, so different women would have suffered. I'm not sure that makes things better for the world overall.

So according to this thread, I am woke… I have a naive world view and I am traitorous. Nice balanced argument guys. Fellow women as well, phew…

I would blame the perpetrators of these crimes currently in the news for whipping up hated.
I certainly hate them. Unfortunately their actions will serve to prejudice opinions against genuine asylum seekers.

So many words, such little substance. You cannot convince any rational person that a fake champion of women’s rights deserved any credibility who thinks that mass sexual assault event is like a fun night out. And that calling it out is some kind of dog whistle.

Well, it can't be done atm, because after Brexit, rights the UK had to systems to check were withdrawn. Did Reform neglect to mention that?

Yes, we have lots of home-grown rapists, murderers etc. All we can do is lock them up. We can’t deport them.

But we can and should be deporting people who come here asking for our help & protection then stick two fingers up at us. If this man had not been here, his victims would not be victims at all.

Not really. I blame the silly people who can’t use their brain cells to challenge some of their own prejudices. We live in a world where white is seen as superior, good, can do no wrong!

It sounds like her dad didn't just abandon his female family members leaving them with even less male protection in a society that hates them though. He didn't just take off on his own without them.