To be a bit stunned by Lily Allen’s new album

[AngeloMysterioso]

Oooofff. I mean it might as well be called Fuck You David Harbour, You Cheating Bastard. Safe to say she’s set a new bar for diaristic songwriting. I feel so sad for her, I know she’s not everyone’s favourite person but it’s always been clear that all she wanted was to love and be loved and she seemed so happy with him- he popped up on her podcast with Miquita Oliver a few times and seemed so genuine in the way he spoke about her… for it to all collapse in such spectacularly public and hideous fashion must have been awful to endure, so I don’t blame her for working through it by going back to what she does best but still… blimey. I feel like I’ve been spying in their bedroom or something after listening to it!

I agree. She is not perfect, smart, or even particularly nice, but she is very likable and her lyrics stick with you. She is just someone who tries her best to find happiness, and has no idea how to do that - and is very frank about herself and others. I do think its a talent, not many people would be able to be this open even if they tried - also, not many people would have anything entertaining to sing about (like a lot of virtuous ladies on here - would would you sing about? Shopping in M&S?)

Living life based on the most up to date medical advice and never fucking up anything ever 😂

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I don’t like her and won’t be listening.

I mean... I have very little idea about how she is as a parent, or how any of this has impacted her kids (of course, it will, but maybe she is excellent at mitigating the harm with other strategies). I don't think that making a very good album is an indication of anything other than that she has a lot of talent and drive, and good for her, she is using that.

I actually hope she does really really well because the lift, hopefully, will help her so much mentally. When we are all happier we tend to make good choices :-)

I listened to some of it this afternoon...absolutely loving it. Go Lily!

Sadly…

It would absolutely fine for your friend to make light of her own miscarriage. People can cope and reflect on situations as they wish. As far as I know LA wasn't laughing or mocking anyone else's experiences, she made a glib comment about her own experience. You say you're not judging while pontificating certain things point blank aren't okay, just because it's not how you would speak about your own experiences. Thats judgy!

Not a fan of Lily as a rule, but I had a listen to the album today after hearing about the incendiary lyrics. Aside from a couple of tracks that aren't my cup of tea, it's really good.

Sorry so she’s pissed off that he had sex with someone who wasn’t a sex worker whilst they were married but she’s happy to have sex with Liam Gallagher whilst he was married?
I really hope her first husband plays a huge role in the parenting of her children as LA is a shit role model for them.

It’s hardly original

Is this the same lily Allen who bragged about not knowing how many abortions she has had, also cheated on her first husband? Yeah no thanks. She had one good song, and has been riding off the coat tails of her father.

I said I don't judge women for their abortion choices, or how many they have. But I do judge her comments yeah, because I thought they were crass about a seriously emotive subject. I have admitted that I have judged her comments, I am openly judging her abortion comments, right here. I think they were disgusting to laugh, the pair of them, in the way they did. As I said, there are ways of being lighthearted about such subjects and I think theirs was not it.

Equally, you are judging my opinion about it. I am free to judge her public comments, as you are free to judge my public comments here, and you very much are.

Isn’t it funny how on mn, there’s (understandably) uproar about men watching porn, but a woman using sex workers is fine and dandy?

Are you only listening to the artists who are morally incorruptible and never drink, do drugs, cheat; cause, or God forbid, have unwanted pregnancies? I guess pretty much all contemporary music is banned in your house?

Listening and enjoying her music is not the same as using her as an example of how to live your life, ffs.

Quite!

I've always felt that you never do yourself any favours by so publicly slagging off someone else, and as PPs have said, she's behaved pretty badly herself. I've already seen one review headline saying the reviewer felt sorry for her ex!

Can't stand her. Wish she'd bore off and keep her problems and her yacht in the Mediterranean to herself.

Either cheating is bad or it’s not.
Either using prostitutes is bad or it’s not.

It can’t be bad for some and fine for others.

I didn’t realise she’d made so much money. When I saw that brownstone they’d bought in NYC, I was quite shocked. I also don’t understand the concept of starting off with an open marriage, especially when you’ve brought this new man in as the new step daddy.
I think some long term therapy and man avoidance would be best for Lily.

Oh. That's ok then🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Why was she so upset by him setting up a dating profile if they'd agreed to an open marriage?

I’m so glad you’ve said that. I’m listening now, and enjoying it. I’ve also seen that it’s got pretty good reviews.

The venom on this thread is really odd.

I like Lily Allen. And I feel sorry for her because everything she says is jumped on and attacked. Also, I don’t think she has really discussed the break up of her marriage before now. I listened to the podcasts and I don’t think she did then.

because apparently it was agreed that sex workers and one night stands were fine, but if it became emotional, not fine.