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To be a bit stunned by Lily Allen’s new album

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AngeloMysterioso · 24/10/2025 11:33

Oooofff. I mean it might as well be called Fuck You David Harbour, You Cheating Bastard. Safe to say she’s set a new bar for diaristic songwriting. I feel so sad for her, I know she’s not everyone’s favourite person but it’s always been clear that all she wanted was to love and be loved and she seemed so happy with him- he popped up on her podcast with Miquita Oliver a few times and seemed so genuine in the way he spoke about her… for it to all collapse in such spectacularly public and hideous fashion must have been awful to endure, so I don’t blame her for working through it by going back to what she does best but still… blimey. I feel like I’ve been spying in their bedroom or something after listening to it!

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fortinbra · 27/10/2025 10:09

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I'm going to state this very clearly for what is probably the fourth time at this point. I do not think that being damaged excuses bad behaviour. I never said it means a person is any less responsible for their actions. It does not.

fortinbra · 27/10/2025 10:13

Bambamhoohoo · 27/10/2025 07:41

I think someone must be pretty stupid to view reading comprehension as a life survival skill, yes.

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I wish you luck in life

Bambamhoohoo · 27/10/2025 10:16

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dh280125 · 27/10/2025 10:23

Goldenbear · 27/10/2025 09:41

Why is LA "messed up", she is a very fortunate person, it comes across as artificial because "good art" IMO, is about genuine struggles not fake ones.

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Maybe you can say she's superficial, but many of us are. Artificial seems a bit off to me since, if she is anything, she's excessively honest for her own good. It doesn't seem to me to be constructed and that's always been at the heart of her appeal to those of us who like her.

Arcadiusdonk · 27/10/2025 10:26

EmeraldShamrock000 · 27/10/2025 09:20

Do you honestly believe that no-one is forced into doing OF.
There are very vulnerable people on only fans, the average earner earns fuck all and opts for more degrading act's for money. @Arcadiusdonk
Shitting in a bottle, massaging in shit, the amount of weird kinks on OF plus desperate women trying to earn a few hundred.
You seem to only consider high earning OF members and independent prostitutes when both are only a tiny part of the business.

No I’m fully with you. I don’t know what proportion of people are forced or coerced and what are keen. But I do know that both are there. Lily herself sold foot pics on it. I don’t reckon she was coerced.

PeonyPatch · 27/10/2025 10:36

fortinbra · 26/10/2025 23:20

Is it me or are quite a few people on this site really quite odd and extreme?

Yup.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 27/10/2025 10:57

Arcadiusdonk · 27/10/2025 10:26

No I’m fully with you. I don’t know what proportion of people are forced or coerced and what are keen. But I do know that both are there. Lily herself sold foot pics on it. I don’t reckon she was coerced.

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No, she wouldn't be coerced, celebrities jumping on the bandwagon only cause more damage to the single parent trying to earn money for electricity on OF.
KK, KP, LA, it's a type.

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 27/10/2025 11:24

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PeonyPatch · 27/10/2025 11:27

I thought this thread was about Lily Allen’s new album not discussion of the ethics of prostitution and selling organs 😳😳😳

Goldenbear · 27/10/2025 12:04

dh280125 · 27/10/2025 10:23

Maybe you can say she's superficial, but many of us are. Artificial seems a bit off to me since, if she is anything, she's excessively honest for her own good. It doesn't seem to me to be constructed and that's always been at the heart of her appeal to those of us who like her.

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I think it's the mockney accent that's pronounced when she sings, where does she acquire that- from the ostentatious Millfield and Bedales private schools? If that isn't the definition of artificial then what is? It's an affectation, which puts me off the music.

fortinbra · 27/10/2025 14:10

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If you don't want to be patronised then maybe stop making completely absurd and illogical claims based on posts you have not understood.

StrongLikeMamma · 27/10/2025 14:30

PeonyPatch · 27/10/2025 11:27

I thought this thread was about Lily Allen’s new album not discussion of the ethics of prostitution and selling organs 😳😳😳

🤣 quick side bar Peony! 🤣

Insanityisnotastrategy · 27/10/2025 14:38

It's an amazing album. Yes, Lily Allen is messy. I'm probably the most socially conservative person I know, I doubt I would agree with all sorts of things she has done, but she has a lot of courage to be that vulnerable. Lovely voice, too. I just feel sad for all of them really.

StrongLikeMamma · 27/10/2025 14:51

Goldenbear · 27/10/2025 12:04

I think it's the mockney accent that's pronounced when she sings, where does she acquire that- from the ostentatious Millfield and Bedales private schools? If that isn't the definition of artificial then what is? It's an affectation, which puts me off the music.

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The mockney little girl voice does rather do my head in too. She’s a 40 year old woman ffs.

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 27/10/2025 15:25

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Firealarm1414 · 27/10/2025 15:33

A video has been posted to tik tok a couple of days ago which appears to show david at universal studios with lilys kids. So while she is out promoting the album where she slates him as all kinds of fucked up, her kids are hanging out with him without her there? Its all just weird and I feel sorry for the kids in this situation. Is their actual father even in the picture? Why is he allowing them to be involved in this mess?

Firealarm1414 · 27/10/2025 15:45

To add, I've read Lilys book and those kids have been put through hell by her and her antics, such as abandoning them for months to go off shagging anything that moves, and literally tearing the house apart in a rage about her ex having a new girlfriend and almost getting sectioned, while the kids were there. This is all written off by lily as just the way she is. Now she has put them in another damaging scenario. Sorry but she is a selfish person who is unable to put her kids first

neverbeenskiing · 27/10/2025 15:54

I feel sorry for the children involved. It seems they have had to cope with a lot of instability and upheaval in their lives.

A lot of people are talking about LA'S right to 'speak her truth' and I get that, but imagine being 13 years old and having to walk into school and face your peers knowing that they'll all have heard your Mum singing about finding your Step Dad's butt plugs, lube and condoms on a song called 'Pussy Palace'.

jonnybriggswasgreat · 27/10/2025 16:03

Firealarm1414 · 27/10/2025 15:33

A video has been posted to tik tok a couple of days ago which appears to show david at universal studios with lilys kids. So while she is out promoting the album where she slates him as all kinds of fucked up, her kids are hanging out with him without her there? Its all just weird and I feel sorry for the kids in this situation. Is their actual father even in the picture? Why is he allowing them to be involved in this mess?

Their father has been under the radar for a long time, never given an interview. My guess is that this was a condition of the divorce settlement.

Lonemumallthetime · 27/10/2025 16:31

Firealarm1414 · 27/10/2025 15:33

A video has been posted to tik tok a couple of days ago which appears to show david at universal studios with lilys kids. So while she is out promoting the album where she slates him as all kinds of fucked up, her kids are hanging out with him without her there? Its all just weird and I feel sorry for the kids in this situation. Is their actual father even in the picture? Why is he allowing them to be involved in this mess?

He went onto marry another socialite however he always seemed like a lovely guy

StrongLikeMamma · 27/10/2025 16:59

neverbeenskiing · 27/10/2025 15:54

I feel sorry for the children involved. It seems they have had to cope with a lot of instability and upheaval in their lives.

A lot of people are talking about LA'S right to 'speak her truth' and I get that, but imagine being 13 years old and having to walk into school and face your peers knowing that they'll all have heard your Mum singing about finding your Step Dad's butt plugs, lube and condoms on a song called 'Pussy Palace'.

Hideous

99problems99 · 27/10/2025 17:16

AngeloMysterioso · 24/10/2025 11:33

Oooofff. I mean it might as well be called Fuck You David Harbour, You Cheating Bastard. Safe to say she’s set a new bar for diaristic songwriting. I feel so sad for her, I know she’s not everyone’s favourite person but it’s always been clear that all she wanted was to love and be loved and she seemed so happy with him- he popped up on her podcast with Miquita Oliver a few times and seemed so genuine in the way he spoke about her… for it to all collapse in such spectacularly public and hideous fashion must have been awful to endure, so I don’t blame her for working through it by going back to what she does best but still… blimey. I feel like I’ve been spying in their bedroom or something after listening to it!

Makes me laugh how much of a hypocrite she is! She had SX with one of the Gallaghers
behind his wife’s back, I believe nicole Appleton, on a flight! And the. Paid the air steward to keep quiet!! Maybe she should make sure her hands are clean before pointin the finger! Trashy

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 27/10/2025 17:53

neverbeenskiing · 27/10/2025 15:54

I feel sorry for the children involved. It seems they have had to cope with a lot of instability and upheaval in their lives.

A lot of people are talking about LA'S right to 'speak her truth' and I get that, but imagine being 13 years old and having to walk into school and face your peers knowing that they'll all have heard your Mum singing about finding your Step Dad's butt plugs, lube and condoms on a song called 'Pussy Palace'.

Poor kids x

fortinbra · 27/10/2025 17:56

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I wasn't 'defending' LA specifically, I'm not particularly interested in her, I was arguing for more compassion and less judgment towards women in general for having messy lives and making mistakes. I have not 'changed my tune' once during this thread 🤔

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 27/10/2025 18:25

fortinbra · 27/10/2025 17:56

I wasn't 'defending' LA specifically, I'm not particularly interested in her, I was arguing for more compassion and less judgment towards women in general for having messy lives and making mistakes. I have not 'changed my tune' once during this thread 🤔

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You did change your tune. At one point you said you wouldn't expend such time and energy on demanding "compassion and understanding" for a male punter and then back tracked on that.

"messy lives" and "making mistakes". Oh dear, yes could happen to all of us really - "oops, I was a bit bored and I just ordered up a prostitute by mistake. Oh silly me"

I prefer to expend compassion and understanding on the women who are used by rich spoilt brats like Allen and Andrew Windsor.