To be a bit stunned by Lily Allen’s new album

[AngeloMysterioso]

Oooofff. I mean it might as well be called Fuck You David Harbour, You Cheating Bastard. Safe to say she’s set a new bar for diaristic songwriting. I feel so sad for her, I know she’s not everyone’s favourite person but it’s always been clear that all she wanted was to love and be loved and she seemed so happy with him- he popped up on her podcast with Miquita Oliver a few times and seemed so genuine in the way he spoke about her… for it to all collapse in such spectacularly public and hideous fashion must have been awful to endure, so I don’t blame her for working through it by going back to what she does best but still… blimey. I feel like I’ve been spying in their bedroom or something after listening to it!

You said you were upset by peoples lack of compassion.

I’m not sure why LA is owed any compassion. She’s in one of the most privileged positions anyone in the world could be in to sort their shit out if she wanted/needed to. I also don’t know if she actually wants compassion from anyone - she appears to be quite happy to continue profiting from her questionable choices by rehashing it all in various media forms every 5 minutes.

Ffs. I don't even 'like' Lily Allen. I think she'd be total nightmare to know. I just can't stand the narrow minded, black and white moralising on this thread. Who cares if we 'like' her or not? It's a music album.

It's astonishing that you seem to think you have such a firm grasp of the moral compass.

Do you expend so much compassion and understanding on male punters?

What exactly is black and white about prostitution and the scum who use prostitutes?

People can't just magically 'sort their shit out' just because they are wealthy. That's not how healing works. You need to be ready.

No, I don't.

I think we've established that LA is, having slept with prostitutes, officially 'scum' and beyond all redemption. Going to hell. An Officially Terrible Person. So probably not worth talking about this anymore?!

No, but they can afford the many hours and forms of private therapy that most ‘damaged’ people on a years and years long NHS waiting list can’t.

Oh yes, I am a total hypocrite 🙂

Well we've also established you're a hypocrite.

Yes, yes we have

Am I an Officially Terrible Person now as well as Lily Allen? Is there a sticker I can wear?

Indeed they can

Well maybe that’s some people’s take.
I personally: don’t like her music, don’t like her as a person based on what she shares about her self and feel no guilt at all about having no sympathy for her.
If you feel differently that’s fine. But not everyone has to agree.

😂

I don't feel any sympathy for her. I don't feel any judgment either. I do not know her, and I am not tedious enough to expend energy on people I do not know. I can, however, see that things, and people, are complicated, and not wholly good or bad.

I gave up on the hope of a nuanced conversation a few posts back🙂

It’s really not that deep. Some people are repulsed by her attitude towards prostitution and her endless ‘poor me, but give me attention’ rhetoric. You are not. That’s it really.
Would I shout abuse at her in the street? No. Do I wish her any ill? No. But I don’t like her and I’m allowed not to. I doubt she gives a shiny shit what I think of her.

Oh ha ha. It's not difficult. Please explain why we should feel " compassion and understanding" for Lily Allen when she abuses prostitutes but not when it's a man doing the same thing?

Oh, and it is because I don't believe myself to have a firm grasp of the moral compass that I don't like moralising about random female popstars.

Or sleeping with Liam Gallagher when he was married. Hypocrisy at its best - it only counts when it happens to you Lily? Horrid human.

In your opinion maybe. That doesn't make it fact.

I don't like users of prostitutes and apologists for prostitution.