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To be a bit stunned by Lily Allen’s new album

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AngeloMysterioso · 24/10/2025 11:33

Oooofff. I mean it might as well be called Fuck You David Harbour, You Cheating Bastard. Safe to say she’s set a new bar for diaristic songwriting. I feel so sad for her, I know she’s not everyone’s favourite person but it’s always been clear that all she wanted was to love and be loved and she seemed so happy with him- he popped up on her podcast with Miquita Oliver a few times and seemed so genuine in the way he spoke about her… for it to all collapse in such spectacularly public and hideous fashion must have been awful to endure, so I don’t blame her for working through it by going back to what she does best but still… blimey. I feel like I’ve been spying in their bedroom or something after listening to it!

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WeeGeeBored · 25/10/2025 18:26

AmIthatSpringy · 25/10/2025 18:24

Im surprised she's still relevant.

A lot of women on MN will relate to this album so yes she is relevant.

Mangetoutmangetouti · 25/10/2025 18:27

PinkPanther57 · 25/10/2025 18:21

I don’t think DH sounds pleasant at all. She gave up so much & if there’s any truth in ‘Pussy Palace’ - urgh.

I believe it, I’ve known plenty like him 😭😭😭

Mangetoutmangetouti · 25/10/2025 18:30

WeeGeeBored · 25/10/2025 18:26

A lot of women on MN will relate to this album so yes she is relevant.

And the relief I feel that I don’t know any of these moral compass people in real life. My life has felt like a constant carcrash due to various challenges and barriers and I spend my whole time seemingly treading water from one calamity to another, I mostly always learn a lesson but some of us just have a lot to deal with.
It’s not always pretty and I haven’t always dealt with everything admirably. Now I realise how many people I might have come across who really didn’t get me or have any empathy for my difficulties

WeeGeeBored · 25/10/2025 18:30

SpidersAreShitheads · 25/10/2025 13:44

No one is judging her from having terminations.

We are judging her from laughing about them. Her words are irresponsible and thoughtless.

You have a very kind interpretation of her words and actions. Unfortunately I just don’t think that’s the case with her. She enjoys attention and revels in being edgy, so it’s on brand. Plus, there’s a long track record of her being pretty unpleasant.

Happy to agree to disagree.

Some people (me included) laugh at things that they actually find painful. I found myself doing this recently and I didn’t even realise - someone had to point it out to me. She sounds quite sensitive to me.

fortinbra · 25/10/2025 18:31

Charlize43 · 25/10/2025 16:32

I think you are getting her confused with Amy Winehouse.

I don't even know anyone who likes her! At work, when she split with DH and someone mentioned her name, most of the women I work with expressed their dislike of her and the fact she is so whiny and annoying (like James Corden, never met anyone who likes him).

Because people at your work don't like her I must be getting her confused with Amy Winehouse? 😅

PeonyPatch · 25/10/2025 18:31

I didn’t know it was your pussy palace, pussy palace, pussy palace

I thought it was your dojo, dojo, dojo 🎵

PinkPanther57 · 25/10/2025 18:35

Mangetoutmangetouti · 25/10/2025 18:27

I believe it, I’ve known plenty like him 😭😭😭

All the letters of heart break from strung along women seem incongruous to the sex dungeon vibe.

Bbq1 · 25/10/2025 18:35

Horrible, horrible woman and talentless too. Her poor kids are going to end up pretty damaged reading about their vile mother when they are older.

WeeGeeBored · 25/10/2025 18:36

A lot of people on here are furious that Lily has produced an amazing album. It is as though they think she should be struck down because of all the abortions. I bet she’s not proud of them. She suffered with substance addiction and probably made all sorts of mistakes during that time. Despite her demons she has survived and is thriving artistically. Go Lily!

Bambamhoohoo · 25/10/2025 18:38

Bbq1 · 25/10/2025 18:35

Horrible, horrible woman and talentless too. Her poor kids are going to end up pretty damaged reading about their vile mother when they are older.

The mind boggles as to how you can listen to those lyrics and call her talentless. how could a talentless person do that?

WeeGeeBored · 25/10/2025 18:38

PeonyPatch · 25/10/2025 18:31

I didn’t know it was your pussy palace, pussy palace, pussy palace

I thought it was your dojo, dojo, dojo 🎵

What’s dojo? I am older and need a steer.

Susan7654 · 25/10/2025 18:39

I dont like her but just listened to her album because of this thread. To me it sounds like it has been written by ChatGBt, very good rhymes and easy listen. But no depth that only humans can do.

Frankiecat2 · 25/10/2025 18:40

Bbq1 · 25/10/2025 18:35

Horrible, horrible woman and talentless too. Her poor kids are going to end up pretty damaged reading about their vile mother when they are older.

This is what I find odd about this thread, and similar. (And I suppose the internet in general).

I just do not get having this amount of vitriol for someone you’ve never met.

WeeGeeBored · 25/10/2025 18:40

Bbq1 · 25/10/2025 18:35

Horrible, horrible woman and talentless too. Her poor kids are going to end up pretty damaged reading about their vile mother when they are older.

I love it when posters take a look in the mirror and describe themselves so honestly.

SnoopyPajamas · 25/10/2025 18:44

Honestly this all makes me uncomfortable. This thread is full of people praising Allen for her "brutal honesty" and laying into her ex-husband for the terrible things he's done. It's all being taken as 100% true. But when you look at the interviews Allen is giving about the album, she describes it as "autofiction - a blend of autobiography and fiction", says that she's singing as "a character" in some of the songs, and says it's not "the gospel truth". But of course, she's not telling us which bits she made up.

She's also timed the album release to line up with the promotional cycle for the new series of Stranger Things, in a blatant attempt to cash in on the attention.

I'm sure some people will say she's entitled to do that, and that if Harbour did even some of what she's accused him of, he deserves to have his name dragged through the muck. But it all just seems undignified to me. She's got kids. There comes a point where it's better to take the high road. It might feel satisfying in the moment to lay your dirty laundry out for the whole world to see, but it's drawing more eyes on something that should be personal.

I understand not wanting to let him off the hook. But she's made this into tabloid fodder. Her kids are going to be asked about it, and I don't see how that's fair on them.

Thegrassroots26 · 25/10/2025 18:45

WeeGeeBored · 25/10/2025 18:38

What’s dojo? I am older and need a steer.

Apparently she thought he practiced karate in the west village apartment.. that’s what she means by dojo.

CoralPombear · 25/10/2025 18:51

I don’t know her personally but everything I’ve seen, heard and read about her tend to point to her being a terrible person. I won’t be listening.

Cherrytree86 · 25/10/2025 18:53

CoralPombear · 25/10/2025 18:51

I don’t know her personally but everything I’ve seen, heard and read about her tend to point to her being a terrible person. I won’t be listening.

@CoralPombear

sorry I didn’t realise we are only supposed to listen to artists considered to be good people…

SweetcornFritter · 25/10/2025 18:54

She may be a terrible person but she is at least incredibly honest and brave to own up to her failings and mistakes, knowing that so many people who have never met her are going to write the nastiest, most vitriolic hate they can think of about her.

CoralPombear · 25/10/2025 18:59

I just don’t personally like her, rate any of her previous music or feel sorry to someone born into privilege who has still managed to turn their personal life into a public car crash. I’m just one potential listener though, if enough other people feel differently then the album will do well.

FartyPants9 · 25/10/2025 19:02

It's not like writing songs about exes is unusual, Taylor Swift has made a career out of it.

SemiRetiredLoveGoddeess · 25/10/2025 19:08

Never liked her. Always thought she was a spoilt, middle class, part privately educated entitled attention seeking prat. Very false

And l couldn't"t care less about her and her ex partners.

But she has been off the music scene for a while and needs to sell her new so called, ground breaking album and she will do anything for publicity to sell it.

But the what do would expect from the daughter of prize dick head and chancer Keith Allen.

Go away Lily get therapy and a proper job.

Madisnttheword · 25/10/2025 19:09

OverDram · 24/10/2025 12:16

She uses sex workers she is scum

Not to mention what she did to that poor dog

WeeGeeBored · 25/10/2025 19:11

Thegrassroots26 · 25/10/2025 18:45

Apparently she thought he practiced karate in the west village apartment.. that’s what she means by dojo.

Thank you.

Bbq1 · 25/10/2025 19:12

WeeGeeBored · 25/10/2025 18:40

I love it when posters take a look in the mirror and describe themselves so honestly.

Haha how funny.... , I don't have multiple kds, don't use sex workers and I haven't laughed about multiple abortions. You love her, that's fine but god forbid she was a man. All the women on here like you would then be absolutely roasting her instead of apologising for all of her disgusting behaviour. To the Op why thought her lyrics were amazing... Pussy palace??

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