To be a bit stunned by Lily Allen’s new album

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Oooofff. I mean it might as well be called Fuck You David Harbour, You Cheating Bastard. Safe to say she’s set a new bar for diaristic songwriting. I feel so sad for her, I know she’s not everyone’s favourite person but it’s always been clear that all she wanted was to love and be loved and she seemed so happy with him- he popped up on her podcast with Miquita Oliver a few times and seemed so genuine in the way he spoke about her… for it to all collapse in such spectacularly public and hideous fashion must have been awful to endure, so I don’t blame her for working through it by going back to what she does best but still… blimey. I feel like I’ve been spying in their bedroom or something after listening to it!

Thanks for that.. As I said in my other post I used to not be sure about her but I saw her and her sisters thing and I can't say she's any thing negative.. she's seems like a good mum.. she certainly speaks her mind.. she's not fake.. I don't think she's had it easy and I think she now deserves a break... 💕👀😁

Sometimes a bit of real life stuff from a celeb can be really helpful for various reasons, study of human life, being grateful for someone sharing similar experiences to our own, a distraction from our real lives!

lots of people were younger people when lily came on the scene and all of us including her have been through so many life changing experiences and have become older, it’s an interesting window on a parallel life that’s like ours but not .

i feel sad for her, i did anyway but her glow up of all glow ups always felt to me like she was trying to look happy on the outside and now hearing her songs it seems she was trying to look a certain way to keep him.

i understand how that feels although id never have the money to glow up like her so I live in meek acceptance of my ageing but its ‘interesting’ to see how that insecurity manifests itself when money is freely available

I love Lily, Taylor Swift and Alanis Morrisette. Katy Perry and Pink - all have written songs/albums about their shitty ex's (and you can throw Amy Winehouse in here, too). For some reason, the press love coming after Lily. I say go for it, girl. Turn off your phone and don't read the press or socials for a couple of months. You'll be alright, still 😉

Agreed. I loved her first album and loved (and emulated) her quirky style, especially the dresses and trainers, I could never walk in heels, she was a breath of fresh air.

She is a real person who has spent a lot of time and energy and no doubt money on learning about herself, her foibles, her triggers, she is definitely a tricky character and I can imagine her being challenging to be around at times but also she seems delicate and sensitive and hurt but trying hard.

and single mumming is bloody HARD, trying to find or keep a relationship is also hard, it sometimes feels like I can’t have it all. But I don’t want to remain single into my pensionable years .

thank goodness the pensioner goalposts keep moving so I have a couple more decades now before I declare myself single for life

I'd Imagine her fan club would feel very differently about her choices, if she was male.
meant to quote post, re prostitution, hiring sex workers.
Why is it excused when people with money emotionally damage their DC.
She is a terrible example for her DC and I hope they manage to break the cycle.
Is she still on OF, feet only wearing sexy underwear. 😳

Although it often seems celebs move on to new relationships quite quickly, in some senses it must be harder for them because they’ve got the worry that everyone they date might be after them for their money/status, or ready to sell a story on them to a tabloid.

I feel sorry for her, and I'm disappointed others don't feel the same - you must have grown up listening to the artists I mention above? So, why is she vilified above others? Bad PR??

Lils, your 40's are awesome. Get out there - they're like your 30's, only with more nouse about what you're facing. You don't need a relationship, love. You need - to be corny - to fall in love with yourself. F everyone else.

It doesn’t sound pompous or twatty .
It’s all we can hope for anyone who has been hurt by life.

He was everywhere in the nineties. Off his tits most of the time. I was in the ladies toilets in the Groucho once and a door opened to reveal him grinning like a cheshire cat. He'd got tons of coke and some rolled up notes for us laydeez to participate. To be fair he was a gentleman and was just having a laugh but I cannot imagine him being a great dad.

Wow! Am listening now. Who’s Madeline?!

Completely untrue. This is actually more accurate in relation to subsequent full term pregnancies. This false information leads to fear of a perfectly safe process.

So is it ok to listen to the Lost Prophets? Or Gary Glitter? Even a bit of Michael Jackson?!

Ok, am being flippant granted, but people are allowed to not like a person therefore steer clear of their work. I cannot stand Jude Law (due to an altercation with him) so I avoid any films he is in though I know he is a good actor and the film probably enjoyable.

Lily Allen - how she lives her own life doesn't bother me but for some it will. We all have different levels of what we find acceptable.

What a load of shite. LA is as addicted to controversy as she was to narcotics. Didn’t mind shagging Liam Gallagher and then telling everyone who would listen. Repeatedly. So very desperate to stay relevant she doesn’t care who she hurts whether it’s herself or someone else. Her album and all it tries to tell the listener could be as make believe as Father Christmas because let’s face it, she’s got form.

I’m judging her extremely harshly for her treatment of the ‘cheapo’ rescue dog.

As for the album, I’ve only listened to Pussy Palace and quite liked it. Can see it being a massive hit.

Then maybe parents should teach girls to think and use theit our brains, girls are not immune from being responsible to think for themselves, all this shows is i think she is she has issues going but there is 2 in a relationship and just because thr public may feel they know her more no one except the both of them knows what is was like and the 'she is pure and innocent how could he do that' line that people trot out helps no one

FFS, are you comparing Lily Allen to a child raping nonce??? That's a bit extreme, don't you think? I do listen to Michael Jackson, as he hasn't been imprisoned for raping a baby. Though I do get people not being too keen on Jerry Lee Lewis, for example, even though what he done is legal in some parts on the USA.

Of course you can not listen to Lily Allen for whatever moral reason you choose but is she the only one you avoid? Are you going with the same nit comb through the biographies of other rock stars, or are you only interested in female ones that happen to be the latest tabloid fodder?

My first listen earlier made me think “they had an agreement for him to sleep with other people and then she was shocked he developed feelings for one of them?!”

However on second listen I’ve changed my mind slightly. If it was as told in the songs, he called her up whilst she was away working in London and essentially blindsided her by saying he was unhappy and wanted to sleep with other people. Having upped and moved her kids to a different country only a year prior, I can see how she may have felt under pressure to try and stay in the marriage.

Sorry, haven't RTFT so I don't know if anyone has posted this already, but there was an interesting critique on the BBC today, it mentions that she wrote some of the album as a "character":

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ypgze4l2zo

Which bit of "I am being flippant, granted" did you not get before you got all outraged comparing with nonces? I guess that passed you by.

I also made a point of people's level of acceptable is different which I guess escaped you too. Some may be anti-abortion, some may not like the way she's spoken about other things in the past. It's perfectly acceptable to avoid the arts of someone they do not like. It's called freedom of choice and it doesn't have to be justified.

The last bit of your post I won't bother to answer because I already said I personally didn't care, this isn't a female thing, or a press thing. Thanks tho.

I’m half way through- it’s excellent- clever and original

Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Can someone tell me whether there's a full moon tonight?

Yes.. What a shit. I think Lily can do better with out this toad.

You sound quite controlling. You can't tell someone how they can react to your posts, or how they respond. Belittling someone is also not a good look.

I can say whatever I want, so as Lily Allen! You can chose to get on a high horse and say she is below you on some sort of a moral scale. And I can say you are being ridiculous.

It was a perfect response to your original belittling comment, regarding people's choices and comparing them to bible belt America. And calling me ridiculous for something I've not even said is actually belittling too btw.

Perhaps people in glass houses etc.

I also find amusing your putting words in my mouth. I never said she is below me, am not on a high horse. I was merely pointing out that people do actually have their own levels of what they find acceptable and are perfectly entitled to have them without being compared to religious America which you did.

For the record, I never said you couldn't say anything, I was actually responding to your judgement of others.. are they not allowed to say or think what they want too or is it only a 'you' thing?

It's strange conversing with you because it seems to be shifting each reply and reading into my posts what is simply not there.

I'm surprised Zoe Kravitz allegation of assault hasn't been mentioned here - Lily claimed in her book that they kissed, Zoe said it was 'an attack'

Lily doesn't exactly go to great lengths to deny the allegation

Azealia Banks also claims Lily was racist towards her but that Lily later apologised for the racist tweets. If I recall correctly Lily had dressed her husbands penis up in 'black face' (can it be called that on a penis?) and tweeted it out to Azealia.

Lily has always been problematic which is why I'm surprised to see her garner so much support on here. A difficult or traumatic childhood doesn't excuse behaviour much later in life.

I haven't listened to her album yet, I'm not sure if I will or not - I'm assuming it to be similar to Beyonces Lemonade album?

Not sure how I feel about celebs airing their dirty laundry in public when there are children involved either, just feels a bit 'off' to me.