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Trigger warning -To have told my friend her racist Facebook posts could cost her her new job

170 replies

greenishredblue · 22/10/2025 23:49

And I was told to mind my own business.

to be honest rethinking the friendship as our values are obviously completely different

she has just started a new job in a solicitors which I am guessing would cater to all different people from all different cultures, religions, believes etc. recently she has been posting some really well racist stuff such as “sink the boats” and “ban the burka” and “fuck off home” “Britain for the British” “Immigrants are pedos” “our children need to be protected not shot in their own school”
things like that.
tonight she has also posted a post saying “only nonces encourage children to believe they are in the wrong body”.

that last one I don’t believe the nonces part but I do have some options about children being transgender but I don’t post them all over Facebook.

if I were a boss of an organisation that deals with the public I would not be at all happy.

I even have another friend who is not as close to this person threatening to send her company the screen shots as she is so disgusted. I have said that is up to her and to leave me out of that one.

the thing is she has been done before in the her last job for writing horrible things about a colleague and was so close to the sack.

I just don’t think I can be in the same company as this friend now. It’s fair enough having different ideas and beliefs but it just goes too far

OP posts:
Hoppinggreen · 23/10/2025 10:14

The only unreasonable part is the fact that you are friends with her.
I know people can't change sex and I think we do need to tackle illegal immigration (even if only for the safety of those involved) but her views are disgusting and even if they aren't illegal I would want nothing to do with someone like her

Terrytheweasel · 23/10/2025 10:14

Quite right wing? She’s a full on racist in plain sight. Do not associate yourself with this person if you have any credibility - which it sounds like you do or you wouldn’t be concerned.

Terrytheweasel · 23/10/2025 10:16

BaffledAndBemusedToo · 23/10/2025 08:26

I agree. We are turning into China, where we are being actively encouraged to grass people up. What happened to just accepting your friends sometimes have different opinions to you? It happens.

There’s holding different views and political beliefs that are measured and there’s being a nazi.

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/10/2025 10:16

EmeraldRoulette · 22/10/2025 23:53

Bit of a sidebar, but if she nearly got the sack in her last job, I'm puzzled that she's doing this.

She’s clearly not the sharpest tool in the box, is she?

leporello · 23/10/2025 10:18

'Quite right wing', gawd, what counts as very right wing then?

Terrytheweasel · 23/10/2025 10:19

cobrakaieaglefang · 23/10/2025 06:50

Know of a woman that worked for HR and posted that shite, without considering who she had in her friends list, a senior manager, who is also mixed race, she got a written warning. She left shortly afterwards. I also see a lot of others posting but they don't have employment details on their posts and aren't in jobs with any responsibility so nobody cares. Scroll on and just clock them as idiots.
I did get blocked by a relative who posted Australian versions of the same stuff. On one about 'send them back' I asked when they are coming back to the UK then, as they are British born, having gone to Aus in the 70s, and I agree that Australia should be for original Australians. Funny that I got blocked for agreeing...🤔😉😂

😂😂🤣 very good!

BeardofHagrid · 23/10/2025 10:23

She thinks children should be protected? That’s disgusting!!!

Timeforabitofpeace · 23/10/2025 10:24

@cobrakaieaglefang I have people in my wider family who also believe that what they say on this subject shouldn’t apply to them and their lives and children. It’s completely wrong.

EasternStandard · 23/10/2025 10:26

CloudSky · 23/10/2025 09:51

OP’s post from last night: “I have removed her and blocked. I am right in thinking she could be sacked for this arnt I.”

Yep I hear you.

Figgygal · 23/10/2025 10:35

I've an old school friend who doesn't post things but every conversation ends up in a migrant rant as she's fallen down a GB news blackhole. She's educated, very privileged, and living In an echo chamber with her partner and it's not easy to steer her away from the topic. It's very sadly damaging our relationship I don't share her values and views and whilst would be happy to just not go there they seem to have become an overwhelming part of her identity which seems common.

JHound · 23/10/2025 10:40

Sevenamcoffee · 23/10/2025 09:48

But you wouldn’t think that a police officer or a social worker, for instance, posting that people crossing the channel should be drowned is an indication that they could be harmful during their professional work?

Edited

Not necessarily no. At least not enough for me to go to their employer.

But I would cut such a person out of my life.

Owlbookend · 23/10/2025 10:42

For people who are questioning raising this issue with her employers, i think it is important to note that she works for a solicitors. She is involved with the administration of the legal system. I would hope that everybody would understand that holding and publicising views such as "immigrants are pedos" is entirely unacceptable for someone working in any capacity within the legal system.

These views aren't benign they are abhorrent. A non-prejudical legal system is essential for a free and fair society.

MO0N · 23/10/2025 10:42

So she's one of those 'facebook people'.
I'd say your best option is to accept that you won't get any sense out of her, avoid her where possible & humor her if you can't avoid her.

Spookygoose · 23/10/2025 10:46

Karma’s a bitch, I’d stay out of it, if her company finds out then she deserves it. Why would you want to try and protect someone with such horrible views? I’d definitely be rethinking a friendship with such an ignorant racist

Owlbookend · 23/10/2025 10:47

It is easy to ignore these types of views when you are not part of the group being attacked. It is a lot harder when a group you belong to is on the receiving end of hatred.

pusspuss9 · 23/10/2025 10:51

I genuinely don't care about the colour of people's skin.

As a woman I very much care about having to walk around covered up, enforced marriages, female genital mutilation, ,being of less worth than a man, etc, etc, It's lazy to call everybody who thinks the same as I as 'racist ' when in fact it gives a get out of jail card to those who believe in the subjugation of women and girls.
We need to be more honest about what precisely we object to, then we can place our misgivings in the places they belong.

Owlbookend · 23/10/2025 10:55

Discussing women's rights isn't being referred to as racist. Suggesting immigrants are pedophiles is being called out as abhorrent and wrong.

Holluschickie · 23/10/2025 10:55

pusspuss9 · 23/10/2025 10:51

I genuinely don't care about the colour of people's skin.

As a woman I very much care about having to walk around covered up, enforced marriages, female genital mutilation, ,being of less worth than a man, etc, etc, It's lazy to call everybody who thinks the same as I as 'racist ' when in fact it gives a get out of jail card to those who believe in the subjugation of women and girls.
We need to be more honest about what precisely we object to, then we can place our misgivings in the places they belong.

I am not sure how you relate any of these to what the friend said. She didn't say " I am against FGM".

Gruffporcupine · 23/10/2025 10:58

Cherry8809 · 23/10/2025 10:04

This.

It sounds like they’re both revelling in it, feeding off and encouraging each other.

OP posting “I’m right in thinking she can get sacked for this?”, then the second “friend” sending her employer the screenshots.

You both sound like gossips, who needs enemies eh.

They are doing it because they enjoy it and want to luxuriate in feeling like a good person while being spiteful.

Her views may be unsavory or even racist. What does it achieve to get her fired? Nothing. She won't stop thinking what she does. This is about OP and her ego

Owlbookend · 23/10/2025 11:01

As an aside, my Year 9 DD's latest PSHE lesson focused on FGM. These issues are raised and challenged. The posts being discussed are not related to FGM.

Dollymylove · 23/10/2025 11:01

Well if her employers have not seen the posts, somebody will doubtless alert them to it. They wont want their business brought into disrepute

pusspuss9 · 23/10/2025 11:03

Holluschickie · 23/10/2025 10:55

I am not sure how you relate any of these to what the friend said. She didn't say " I am against FGM".

you're right. I realised that, when I wrote this, but I get so p.... off when I read various comments including some on this topic, that seem to put the label 'racist' on people who have objections that belong elsewhere under the heading of 'racist' . It possibly makes people who are not white feel others are against them when in fact they are not..

BoredZelda · 23/10/2025 11:10

playstupidgameswinstupidprizes · 23/10/2025 02:38

Yep. but you will never convince the thought police mothers of mumsnet that anyone is allowed any opinion they find offensive - they cannot seem to quite grasp that unless it is illegal, it is not their place to police it. Ever. There was a woman here last week who wanted to report a whatsapp chat for people saying words she didn't like - and then she herself was horrifically vile to another commenter and said the world would be better off without her in it.

People like the OP and her fan club never understand that THEY are offensive, deeply deeply offensive, to millions of other people. They do not grasp the fundamentals of free speech which has never ever meant the right to incite violence or break other laws - but has ALWAYS meant and continues to mean the right to offend other people.

I find the thought police disgustingly offensive, just awful, terrible, bullying, frightening, disturbing and very very worrying people - but I would never try to have them reported for speaking their vile thoughts They are allowed their ugly, hateful opinions.

And now they will assume I am a racist. Absolutely not. Not remotely, no matter their claims. But a person making racist comments is much, much safer to be around than one of the OPs types.

And of course the OP cannot be trusted, not remotely to make a call about what is a racist comment anyway.

Edited

See, the issue you have here is you are confusing the legally protected “freedom of speech” with the culturally defined “freedom of speech”. What people mean when they bleat “freedom of speech” is “speech free of consequences”.

You are correct that people can say what they like within the bounds of the law, I would fight to the death to protect that right. Nobody should be prosecuted or targeted by the authorities for their words, unless they break the law. But to suggest that anyone should be allowed to say anything and not face societal consequences is absurd. If a teenager in school makes racist remarks towards a fellow pupil, you’d expect the school to step in and deal with it, no? If someone on a train is racially abusing another passenger, you’d expect at least one person on the train to step in and stop it or at the very least, challenge them on it, perhaps call a guard? If you see a van driver driving like a dickhead, you might call their company and tell them. Many vehicles have a sticker encouraging you to do just that.

If an employee is saying or doing things that could reflect badly on their business, maybe they are slagging off the boss or telling tales about the culture, the employer has the right to consider that as problematic and to deal with that, don’t they? Why is there a different standard when those things are racist in nature? Why are we supposed to let that slide on the basis people can have their own beliefs? If this friend had said these things directly to OP, in the privacy of their own home or in a DM/Text you’d be quite right, just stepping away would be the correct course of action. When this is on a public forum (which, no matter how “private” you think your own FB is, it is considered public) that can impact on the employer. If someone chooses to alert them, it’s up to the employer to decide if they are ok with it.

That post you are referring to (I think) was the one where an adult coach was swearing in front of a group chat of young teenagers. There were a plethora of reasons why that chat was inappropriate, and reporting to the head of the service was acceptable as a parent. Neither of these situations are covered by a person’s legal right to free speech, and nobody was suggesting those people stop saying those things. Just that in certain circumstances, saying those things may have consequences on your life. That person can decide whether sharing their beliefs publicly is worth those consequences. Many people decide they are and that’s absolutely fine.

I will not sit back and let someone say racist things unchallenged. That is my right. I will accept the consequences of doing so whether it be to fall out with my brother (which I did) or to have someone shout and swear at me an call me names (which has happened). I won’t be bullied in to silence by someone who believes their right to share their opinion is greater than mine. If I challenge someone on their views, I’m not telling them they aren’t allowed to say what they said, I am telling them my thoughts on what they have said.

I wouldn’t choose to raise something with someone’s employer in most situations. But if I were an employer and an employee was doing this, and they were a client facing member of staff, I’d prefer to know about it so I could keep an eye on them. The last thing you want is for a client to bring a case of harassment or prejudice against your company.

NimbleDreamer · 23/10/2025 11:12

It's entirely her own fault if she gets sacked because of things she's said on Facebook. I would just continue to block her and move on from having her as a friend, as sad as it is to lose such a long friendship, but that's all down to her not you.

BoredZelda · 23/10/2025 11:13

But a person making racist comments is much, much safer to be around than one of the OP’s types

That’s probably not true for the vast majority of people who are the targets of racism.

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