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Trigger warning -To have told my friend her racist Facebook posts could cost her her new job

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greenishredblue · 22/10/2025 23:49

And I was told to mind my own business.

to be honest rethinking the friendship as our values are obviously completely different

she has just started a new job in a solicitors which I am guessing would cater to all different people from all different cultures, religions, believes etc. recently she has been posting some really well racist stuff such as “sink the boats” and “ban the burka” and “fuck off home” “Britain for the British” “Immigrants are pedos” “our children need to be protected not shot in their own school”
things like that.
tonight she has also posted a post saying “only nonces encourage children to believe they are in the wrong body”.

that last one I don’t believe the nonces part but I do have some options about children being transgender but I don’t post them all over Facebook.

if I were a boss of an organisation that deals with the public I would not be at all happy.

I even have another friend who is not as close to this person threatening to send her company the screen shots as she is so disgusted. I have said that is up to her and to leave me out of that one.

the thing is she has been done before in the her last job for writing horrible things about a colleague and was so close to the sack.

I just don’t think I can be in the same company as this friend now. It’s fair enough having different ideas and beliefs but it just goes too far

OP posts:
BaffledAndBemusedToo · 23/10/2025 08:26

playstupidgameswinstupidprizes · 23/10/2025 02:59

And I recognise that the OP is making claims of comments that do sound racist. What I mean is I do not trust members of the thought police to be reliable witnesses.

What I do know is that she can just cut contact with the woman, which is what I would do, like a normal person.

Edited

I agree. We are turning into China, where we are being actively encouraged to grass people up. What happened to just accepting your friends sometimes have different opinions to you? It happens.

Owlbookend · 23/10/2025 08:49

According to the OP amongst other this woman posted "Immigrants are pedos” . It isnt just a 'different view' it is abhorrent.

These are terrible and hateful thing to say. Free speech does not mean that you can incite hatred against whole groups of people. We have to challenge racism and xenophobia. History shows us what happens if we dont.

EdithBond · 23/10/2025 08:58

Interesting approach to ‘friends’.

I wouldn’t want to be friends with someone with such ignorant, intolerant and racist views. Sounds like she may have been radicalised online.

But, equally, I wouldn’t report a friend’s social media posts to their employer in the hope of getting them sacked. It’s really vindictive and cowardly.

Why not challenge her to her face? Or not be friends? What’s her job got to do with it? All employers expect their employees to not break the law or their own policies.

JHound · 23/10/2025 09:00

I would block her from my life and keep it moving.

CloudSky · 23/10/2025 09:01

greenishredblue · 23/10/2025 00:37

was just browsing and found a post about a house being raided and some people arrested for having bomb making material and she has posted (with many others sadly) oh we can all guess where they came from, send them back.

they turned out to be white British born and bred

If you’ve blocked her you can no longer see her posts 🤨

MummyNeedsCoffee1 · 23/10/2025 09:04

The only question I have is why she is your friend and why you care whether or not she loses her job in this situation?

KeepAwayFromChildren · 23/10/2025 09:08

Greenwitchart · 23/10/2025 00:05

End the friendship & alert her employer of what she is posting.

The firm's clients deserve better and her bosses won't want her views to tarnish their reputation.

I think there is merit in this suggestion and I think I would definitely consider this option but not yet.

Don't block her because it's good to know what she is saying, just don't respond and maybe let her employer know about this shizz in a month or so. You don't want to be blamed when she will be let go so leave it a bit so the two are less likely to be connected.

She sounds like a loon with absolutely no awareness at all.

Thepeopleversuswork · 23/10/2025 09:10

@BaffledAndBemusedToo

We are turning into China, where we are being actively encouraged to grass people up. What happened to just accepting your friends sometimes have different opinions to you? It happens.

You are welcome to maintain friendships with people who think immigrants are all paedophiles and all trans-supporting people are “nonces”. Most of us prefer our friends to be intelligent, calm and rational.

And most employers understandably prefer to protect their reputations because in the long run it protects the business and their employees. This is absolutely appropriate and normal behaviour which people have done since the internet age and nothing to do with “China”.

OP the woman is a moron and regardless of what happens with her job you are right to distance yourself.

Flakey99 · 23/10/2025 09:15

playstupidgameswinstupidprizes · 23/10/2025 02:38

Yep. but you will never convince the thought police mothers of mumsnet that anyone is allowed any opinion they find offensive - they cannot seem to quite grasp that unless it is illegal, it is not their place to police it. Ever. There was a woman here last week who wanted to report a whatsapp chat for people saying words she didn't like - and then she herself was horrifically vile to another commenter and said the world would be better off without her in it.

People like the OP and her fan club never understand that THEY are offensive, deeply deeply offensive, to millions of other people. They do not grasp the fundamentals of free speech which has never ever meant the right to incite violence or break other laws - but has ALWAYS meant and continues to mean the right to offend other people.

I find the thought police disgustingly offensive, just awful, terrible, bullying, frightening, disturbing and very very worrying people - but I would never try to have them reported for speaking their vile thoughts They are allowed their ugly, hateful opinions.

And now they will assume I am a racist. Absolutely not. Not remotely, no matter their claims. But a person making racist comments is much, much safer to be around than one of the OPs types.

And of course the OP cannot be trusted, not remotely to make a call about what is a racist comment anyway.

Edited

And this is how the Nazi’s came to power and WW2 began, but carry on if you actually believe that you should stand back and say nothing. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Sevenamcoffee · 23/10/2025 09:21

Saying or posting that we should ‘sink the boats’ is an incitement to violence is it not, rather than just a racist ‘opinion’?

JHound · 23/10/2025 09:25

And now they will assume I am a racist. Absolutely not. Not remotely, no matter their claims. But a person making racist comments is much, much safer to be around than one of the OPs types.

Spoken from a position of absolute privilege.

EasternStandard · 23/10/2025 09:31

CloudSky · 23/10/2025 09:01

If you’ve blocked her you can no longer see her posts 🤨

Have you blocked her op?

Kidsgotothatschool · 23/10/2025 09:32

BaffledAndBemusedToo · 23/10/2025 08:26

I agree. We are turning into China, where we are being actively encouraged to grass people up. What happened to just accepting your friends sometimes have different opinions to you? It happens.

Inciting hate it not just having different opinions and if you can’t see that, then I’m afraid in my eyes you are the problem.

I know people who are scared to leave their house atm because of the fact that these kinds of messages are seen as the norm. I know children who are spouting scary stuff because their parents and relatives have normalised hate speech.

The fact that in many jobs it is a sackable offence speaks volumes.

Everyone deserves the right to feel safe and these messages do the exact opposite of that.

Greenwitchart · 23/10/2025 09:37

@BaffledAndBemusedToo
''We are turning into China, where we are being actively encouraged to grass people up. What happened to just accepting your friends sometimes have different opinions to you? It happens.''

Daft...

Any decent society should call out racism, xenophobia, sexism and homophobia.

There is a big difference with freedom of speech, which we should protect at all costs, and people thinking that freedom of speech gives them a licence to share hate speech based on someone's ethnic background or skin colour or immigration status.

Calling for people to drown ('sink the boats') is not ''having a different opinion'', it is just being a vile individual.

No decent employer who cares about their public image would want to have staff with these views either. Most companies have social media policies to that effect.

Actions should have consequences.

JHound · 23/10/2025 09:38

I am not on board with the reporting of people to their employer’s unless there is evidence of them causing harm in the course of their work (such as a police officer bragging about planting evidence on their social media).

I have no issue with an employer discovering their FB and firing her for bringing the firm into disrepute (ESPECIALLY as a solicitor) - people were being fired for making jokes about Charlie Kirk after all.

But I would not be friends with a racist. Especially one calling for violence against people due to the immigration status and labelling all immigrants paedophiles.

PGmicstand · 23/10/2025 09:41

YANBU to tell her and YANBU to cut her off.

My friend circle and I have differing views, but they're not at this level.
Your "friend " sounds thoroughly unpleasant.
I edited this post after reading your updates. Hope her husband can see her social media and see what he married.

Sevenamcoffee · 23/10/2025 09:48

JHound · 23/10/2025 09:38

I am not on board with the reporting of people to their employer’s unless there is evidence of them causing harm in the course of their work (such as a police officer bragging about planting evidence on their social media).

I have no issue with an employer discovering their FB and firing her for bringing the firm into disrepute (ESPECIALLY as a solicitor) - people were being fired for making jokes about Charlie Kirk after all.

But I would not be friends with a racist. Especially one calling for violence against people due to the immigration status and labelling all immigrants paedophiles.

But you wouldn’t think that a police officer or a social worker, for instance, posting that people crossing the channel should be drowned is an indication that they could be harmful during their professional work?

PencilsInSpace · 23/10/2025 09:49

MaggieBsBoat · 23/10/2025 02:07

I lost a friendship over their rampant racism. Nevertheless I would stop short of informing her employers about her posts. This I find obnoxious unless she is actually suggested people go out and harm others. It’s like the people who contact employers because some poor woman has posted a transphobic post on LinkedIn. I know too many women who have been in disciplinary meetings for having GC viewpoints. Distasteful though it may be to most to be a racist. She is entitled to be a racist.
Her views are unpleasant but so are lots of people‘s. People may think you are transphobic for not agreeing with puberty blockers. Should you be sacked for it? No you should not.

Edited

Gender critical beliefs have been found to be protected under 'religion or belief' in the equality act. Maya Forstater had to go to appeal for that to happen. Part of the test is whether the beliefs are worthy of respect in a democratic society (WORIADS). The point is that GC beliefs - that sex is binary, immutable and important - have been found not to be transphobic.

A belief that we should stop or massively curtail immigration is almost undoubtedly also protected. 'Sink the boats' or 'immigrants are pedos' not so much.

I don't think “only nonces encourage children to believe they are in the wrong body” would be protected either, whereas 'encouraging children to believe they are in the wrong body is harmful' would be.

Biskieboo · 23/10/2025 09:49

It makes me chuckle when people start wibbling about the 'thought police' and China/East Germany/North Korea in relation to this sort of thing. It's not like the friend spoke these views in confidence to the OP alone and now the OP has grassed her up. The friend proudly spewed these views on to Facebook for the whole world to see for all eternity. If she's big and hard enough to do that then she can't complain, not even a little bit, if it is brought to the attention of her employer. And if she thought her employer would never find out or that she'd be OK if they did because 'freedom of speech', then she's shown herself to be thick as two short planks and I'd sack her on that basis alone.

CloudSky · 23/10/2025 09:51

EasternStandard · 23/10/2025 09:31

Have you blocked her op?

OP’s post from last night: “I have removed her and blocked. I am right in thinking she could be sacked for this arnt I.”

Cherry8809 · 23/10/2025 10:04

Gruffporcupine · 23/10/2025 07:28

I even have another friend who is not as close to this person threatening to send her company the screen shots as she is so disgusted.

What is the goal of this on the reporting friend's part, seriously? It won't change the friend's views. If anything it will entrench them. Convincing and persuading with argument is what changes people's minds

This.

It sounds like they’re both revelling in it, feeding off and encouraging each other.

OP posting “I’m right in thinking she can get sacked for this?”, then the second “friend” sending her employer the screenshots.

You both sound like gossips, who needs enemies eh.

Spookyspaghetti · 23/10/2025 10:06

EleanorReally · 23/10/2025 05:45

i work with people who post dreadful stop the boats on their facebook
but if it is not to do with their actual job, why should it matter?

Usually because it will bring the company into disrepute. Businesses have to treat everyone they deal with the same just as there are laws to protect against discrimination.

Facbook and ‘Twitter’ are very depressing places nowadays. I only use MN and Instagram if I can help it as the others are particularly bad for mental health. You end up believing that everyone is a racist monster when in reality it’s just that we have a more public platform for our views now and the people who work hard for their communities aren’t as vocal as those who want to tear everything and everyone apart.

Brefugee · 23/10/2025 10:06

Anyway the other friend has decided to send screenshots to her employer and she does not give a fuck if she is found out.

it is a dick move to be racist, so let's get that out of the way.

It is also a dick move to send screenshots of a private SM account to someone's boss if you don't work there too.

Wishimaywishimight · 23/10/2025 10:08

Leave her to it, let her get fired.

LizzyEm · 23/10/2025 10:11

playstupidgameswinstupidprizes · 23/10/2025 02:38

Yep. but you will never convince the thought police mothers of mumsnet that anyone is allowed any opinion they find offensive - they cannot seem to quite grasp that unless it is illegal, it is not their place to police it. Ever. There was a woman here last week who wanted to report a whatsapp chat for people saying words she didn't like - and then she herself was horrifically vile to another commenter and said the world would be better off without her in it.

People like the OP and her fan club never understand that THEY are offensive, deeply deeply offensive, to millions of other people. They do not grasp the fundamentals of free speech which has never ever meant the right to incite violence or break other laws - but has ALWAYS meant and continues to mean the right to offend other people.

I find the thought police disgustingly offensive, just awful, terrible, bullying, frightening, disturbing and very very worrying people - but I would never try to have them reported for speaking their vile thoughts They are allowed their ugly, hateful opinions.

And now they will assume I am a racist. Absolutely not. Not remotely, no matter their claims. But a person making racist comments is much, much safer to be around than one of the OPs types.

And of course the OP cannot be trusted, not remotely to make a call about what is a racist comment anyway.

Edited

Exactly, 100%, this.

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