Fans banned from match

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WTAF?!

https://news.sky.com/story/maccabi-tel-aviv-fans-will-not-be-allowed-to-attend-aston-villa-match-amid-safety-concerns-13451240

Maccabi Tel Aviv fans banned due to safety concerns AGAINST them?

Since when is it ok to victim blame and penalise people who have done nothing wrong? Surely the right course of action would be either to ban ALL fans of both sides or better police the event?

So are Jews not welcome at sports games now? Because some people are racist bullies?

I genuinely can’t believe this has been allowed. Where does it end? Can Jews no longer safely access society? What if the risk is high elsewhere, will they be banned then?

What do you think? AIBU to think this is discriminatory and a slippery slope?

Nothing to fight for eh ...

Except

An independent Palestinian state with no interference from Israel. No blockade, no control of their borders (except obviously the Israeli side for where they border), no bombing!
Withdrawal of the settlers from the West Bank
Extradition of Netenyahu and others to face trial before the IC
Release of all from administrative detention.
All Palestinians in Israeli custody who have been 'convicted' of an offence to have the opportunity if desired for a retrial before an independent and fair court.
An independent enquiry into abuse within Israeli prisons.

That sounds like a few idea to start with. A fragile ceasefire of less than a week, with no long term plan for a 2 state solution isn't peace. It's tentative steps.

Because 80% of the population of Israel are Jewish. Which obviously means that a great many of the football fans coming from Israel are also Jewish. Which is the whole point of the ban….

I’m not a genocide supporter and neither is the Jewish lady.
But you are trying to say she is because she even exists.
So what exactly are you trying to say because you certainly aren’t supporting the Jewish lady who is feeling alienated and is not responsible for whatever you claim.

So if one Hamas official said it or must be true.

But somehow you deny the repeated and explicit genocidal rhetoric coming from the very top of the Israeli government.

On that note however, I am going to bed. I meant to a long time ago.

Like I said, the police would usually target and deal with the specific individuals doing that stuff. There's likely to be what, a few hundred Macabi fans at best. The British police are well used to escorting fans to and from rival stadiums, using spotters and snatch squads to quickly remove offenders from crowds etc etc

The issue here is the shear number of anti semites that they expect would want to attack the Macabi fans and their unwillingness to deal with that. Because anti semitism is fine by them.

For a minute there, I thought you were being serious!

No, I'm saying she is because I've seen her posts over the last 2 years. Presumably you haven't.

It's nothing about her being Jewish. There are many lovely posters on here who are Jewish and are very anti Israel's actions. There are many on here who are not Jewish and are pro Israel's actions. You are the one equating Jewish with pro Israeli policy. That's incredibly anti Semitic of you.

Maybe because it’s also racists that are trying to dictate and control the ban. Can’t you see the irony?

Settler colonialism, such as america or the Zionist project Israel, where ethnic cleansing, displacement, theft of homes, dehumanisation, massacres and apartheid/segregation takes place, is a heinous concept.

Any individual with a modicum of morality accepts this.

The great Jewish humanitarian Norman Finkelstein on the atrocities committed by the Zionist state and the disgusting weaponisation of the Holocaust (a crime against humanity where 6 million Jews were slughtered by THE GERMANS, ie. it had nothing to do with Palestinians) to deflect any criticism on the monstrous entity that is Israel:

Maccabi fans are far-right extremists. No matter the situation in the middle east it's better to not have these fans in town.

Other Israeli teams would be more welcome. Anyone sticking up for them does not follow football.

Oh pmsl, tell you what you have just cracked me up.
I keep seeing on social media elsewhere people saying to others 7000 dollars or pounds being mentioned and thinking what the hell are they talking about.
Ive heard some conspiracy theories in my time.
Not that I’m saying all conspiracy theories are out and out lies.
Lol wonder who dreamed that one up.

Why is that any of our concern? Netanyahu was protecting and defending his country, he has nothing to answer for. Do you think all the leaders of Hamas need to be hauled before a court? For not only kidnapping and torturing Israelis, but also for not protecting their own people, instead using them as human shields. And do you know how many prisons there are in the world which are run badly, if indeed Israeli prisons are. You can’t cherry pick Israel, but be completely okay with the way other prisons around the world are run. It’s not something we should or could fix.

This 👆

Yup mask slipped but let’s all gaslight away.

Yes yes, I’m sure.

Hate will eat them up.

No reply on this now multiple people shared the source? (Amsterdam 2024)

The fans have shown a precedent of using provocative chants etc so I can see why the police are using caution.

In 1928, Adolf Hitler praised america for "gunning down the millions of Redskins to a few hundred thousand, and now keep the modest remnant under observation in a cage".

america was THE template for what the Nazis did.

Like the Natives in the white settler entity america, the Palestinians have been ethnically cleansed, ie. forcibly removed from their homes in the hundreds of thousands. The few Natives that remain are in the prison camp, the reservations.

Meanwhile....

In 2010, David Cameron called the blockaded Gaza strip a "prison camp", where everything that went in and out was monitored by the settler state.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-10778110

33% of MNetters are ok with and voted that this foul antisemitism is not unreasonable. 33%. Absolutely terrifying.

Football supporters aren't the Israeli government and don't deserve to be banned from attending a match.

If a Palestinian team was playing Aston Villa (which is very unlikely, I know), would their fans be banned??

I think you are really wrong there, there are huge Jewish blocks on the marches and the hundreds being arrested for holding placards are midde class white British folk ..vicars etc..even in the US eyes are wide open to the genocide - a majority of the population opposes it now...the refuser network within Israel is growing too. I think you may be living in an echo chamber...the slaughter is all too visible now. Undeniable and inexcusable

Did you not read what the fans did in Amsterdam?

I think you know fuck all about football.

All English clubs were banned from European competitons for five years in the 1980s. Look it up.

Many of us manage not to equate Israel with Judaism. Why do you?