Fans banned from match

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WTAF?!

https://news.sky.com/story/maccabi-tel-aviv-fans-will-not-be-allowed-to-attend-aston-villa-match-amid-safety-concerns-13451240

Maccabi Tel Aviv fans banned due to safety concerns AGAINST them?

Since when is it ok to victim blame and penalise people who have done nothing wrong? Surely the right course of action would be either to ban ALL fans of both sides or better police the event?

So are Jews not welcome at sports games now? Because some people are racist bullies?

I genuinely can’t believe this has been allowed. Where does it end? Can Jews no longer safely access society? What if the risk is high elsewhere, will they be banned then?

What do you think? AIBU to think this is discriminatory and a slippery slope?

393 people.

it’s hardly a representative sample.

I think the outrage comes from a lot of people who just don’t understand.

There is evidence, and those running matches in cities get to decide whether or not fans should be banned.
Can you imagine if football hooligans like these got the 'right' somehow to overturn decisions that were based on their previous behaviour?

Because I disagree with you?

It’s still a skewed thread. Reading it you’d think your many posts were the majority view, they’re not.

As a female football fan it terrifies me.

So pro-Israel posters can post as much as they like, but anyone with opposing views can’t?

How?
The concern here is the safety of the public, not "punishing" one side or the other.
Having said that, I agree playing the match behind closed doors would be fairer.

The team are playing though - that is a fact. Israel has not been excluded from sporting events - that is fact. This team compete in this completion - that is fact.

These points are not a reason to exclude the fans that is a different issue.

The fans have been excluded because they’re violent thugs - that is a fact.

How? Villa fans haven’t done anything wrong. Villa haven’t done anything wrong

Thats largely because Islamophobia means that people think Muslims deserve whatever treatment they'd get from such fans.

Can't believe the number of posters who are suddenly PRO football hooligans all of a sudden, just because they're from Israel.

I’ve asked these posters multiple times if they’d say the same if it was Arab fans chanting antisemitic slogans. I imagine their answer is no, but they won’t actually come out and say it.

I’ve asked them if they have an issue with the old firm blanket away fan ban, and nobody has answered.

Because male violence is okay, if you’re Israeli

I’d counter point 3 with people who genuinely think that because others have a different opinion to themselves, then we must all be bots, is a bit of a ‘thick’ statement in itself. Not everyone falls for the pro Palestine rhetoric and propaganda that an entire race of people are to blame for what Hamas did in October 2023.

I was discussing this with a friend and she said ‘If there are concerns that they might not be safe why not tackle the fuckwits who are the cause of those concerns?
Although we both know the answer to that one.’

Honestly after 2 years of relentless social media bombardment re Gaza, I really expected to see videos of people crying tears of joy (literally) that the war is over. All I’ve witnessed is an uncertain silence followed by a few begrudging videos about how ‘it isn’t over yet’. Nothing has cemented more firmly in my mind that Gaza was just an enjoyable outrage proxy for social justice ‘warriors’.

As I said area not all fans and they have according to reports been excluded due to it being "high risk" with tensions in the Middle East being cited. We shouldn't exclude a group due to other groups demonstrations - that is wrong.

2024 Barcelona fans banned from Belgrade due to racism at a PSG game.

2025 Napoli fans banned from Frankfurt

2025 Ajax fans banned from Marseille

Games you have attended may not have resulted in future bans, but doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened else where.

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I disagree. Unfortunately football still has this issue around certain teams - Millwall and Macabes are very alike in the 'temperament' of their fans - or certain fixtures Rangers/Celtic, Liverpool/Man U, Brighton/Palace for example - and I don't see why this team should be any different.
Quite honestly anyone yelling 'antisemitism' at anything critical of Israel is undermining any attempts to defeat actual semitism.

Good that they’re banned. The fans of that club are a bunch of racist thugs. Hundreds of them singing death to Arabs and gloating about the deaths of Palestinian children when they played in Amsterdam recently. Why exactly should the overwhelming decent majority of Birmingham people be expected to put up with that?

It's not about 'fairness', it's about protecting the public from a group of fans who have a recent track record of racist violence when their team plays away in European competitions.

Just last season Maccabi Tel-Aviv fans attacked a man in Athens because he was an Arab and went on the rampage in Amsterdam.

I think it's good these football hooligans are banned.
Let's not forget that The Netherlands named Israel as a threat to their National Security after the trouble at the match in Amsterdam partly because of misinformation that Israel spread with regards the trouble at that match.