Fans banned from match

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WTAF?!

https://news.sky.com/story/maccabi-tel-aviv-fans-will-not-be-allowed-to-attend-aston-villa-match-amid-safety-concerns-13451240

Maccabi Tel Aviv fans banned due to safety concerns AGAINST them?

Since when is it ok to victim blame and penalise people who have done nothing wrong? Surely the right course of action would be either to ban ALL fans of both sides or better police the event?

So are Jews not welcome at sports games now? Because some people are racist bullies?

I genuinely can’t believe this has been allowed. Where does it end? Can Jews no longer safely access society? What if the risk is high elsewhere, will they be banned then?

What do you think? AIBU to think this is discriminatory and a slippery slope?

Israelis shouldn’t be playing - just as South African sports people suffered the consequences of their regimes political
policies.
its not just the safety of the Israel
fans either - its the safety of all fans. The idea that only one side will behave in a politically motivated way is ridiculous

That has happened many, many times in football.
i support Liverpool, I should know

The ones that need to be booted out are Israel teams, like Russia.

Like when people who work in the area of sex and gender and are far smarter than you say transwomen are women so it must be true? You don’t seem to understand how people create their own little specialisms and then declare themselves experts whom we must all believe!

Read the BBC article.

The prime Minister needs to get involved and put a stop to this now.

Read this article.

BTW, away fan bans are common.

there’s a blanket ban on away fans at the old firm - I don’t see either side crying religious discrimination there.

West Ham have threatened to ban away fans after a “criminal act” at their game against Chelsea.

England have frequently played games where their opposition have faced stadium bans for their fans after racist behaviour

Heysel happened and English teams were banned from Europe for a long time.

this isn’t some new and unusual thing. This is called the consequences of their actions.

Again, can you answer me?

do you think the MTA have a right to travel to other countries and smash them up, just because of their heritage?

The Guardian is as the Telegraph is surely you can see that. And in some cases the DM.

We know what happened. The Dutch king and PM were very clear it was pure anti semitism and a witch hunt in Amsterdam. It was organised crime.

The police are right to flag that they are concerned the same thing will happen here. So the match must be called off.

Bans on away fans are common and there is NO WAY the Maccabi fans are going to behave. Zero.

Are you going to answer a question that’s been posed to
you multiple times or are you going to keep angrily shaking your fist at the clouds?

They don’t want to read it Eastern. They are on here corrupting the truth quite deliberately.

I support this because it's a curfew on men, and in general we need more of these, not fewer.

In many areas women are afraid to walk the streets at night and it's all the fault of men.

She’s going to post as you are.

The thing is I’m engaging in a discourse.

she’s just getting angrier and angrier, ignoring the facts of the situation and not wanting to admit that she is perfectly fine with racism, as long as it comes from a certain group of people.

It’s a pretty skewed thread where responses are out of kilter with the yanbu vote.

if Israel wanted to commit genicude the war would have been over 8th Oct.

idiots who believe this genocide crap

but wait, they don’t care about Hamas executing its own people, or throwing gays off buildings or terrorising its own people, or having stolen $bns of aid over the last 30 years, or not allowing Israeli aid through, or the fact they send rockets into Israel daily and slaughtered with huge barbarity thousands of Israel’s on Oct 7th or that ‘innocent’ Palestinians were celebrating on the streets the bodies of young Israeli woman …… oh and Hamas only still say they’ll only stop with the annihilation of Israel….

makes me sick that people protest for this side. Palestinian state won’t be a nice peace loving one - it will be an Islamist fundamentalist one .

The locals aren’t innocent bystanders. They are the ones who said they had an issue with MTA fans on ethical grounds. That’s what their petition was about. It also included a thinly veiled threat against the Israeli fans were they to attend.

You clearly have never been to Aston/Witton if you think that fans will spend all day disrupting the locals. It’s not an area that fans and certainly not away fans congregate in. Everyone stays in the city centre until near kick off.

The area is just about as lacking in diversity as imaginable. The MP spends more time talking about Gaza and Palestine than he does about anything linked to the UK.

You’re the one corrupting the truth. The bare facts of it are the MTA fans arrived in Amsterdam, organised “demonstrations” where they shouted racist slogans, chanted racist slogans during the match, and after the match they continued on their racist, violent rampage. The city of Amsterdam responded.

You are twisting the narrative and you know it.

Why don’t you want the match called off? If you are so worried?

Were they the same club whose fans were rampaging in Amsterdam not so long ago, and then complained when they were called out on their hooliganism? If so it’s no wonder they’ve been banned. It’s a natural consequence to that behaviour.

If all that is true - which I believe by the way - then why isn’t the reasonable decision to bad ALL fans made? No fans = no risk, damage and most importantly no risk of Jews feeling discriminated against.

This is a critical moment in history where decisions today affect the future safety of Jews and Muslims in the future. Tensions are always high and these kind of decisions do nothing but promote antisemitism. I understand the multitude of risks at the match, so just ban all fans!

Posters keep coming back to “Jews aren’t banned, Maccabi fans are”.

Right… so if a group of orthodox Jewish men (ie visibly Jewish) went to the football match in Birmingham, would they feel safe? Would they be safe?

This IS about Jews and banning the Israeli team sends a strong message.

We need to be promoting peace now. Respecting Jews and Muslims. Promoting harmony and moving forwards to ensure all innocent civilians in every country are protected from harm.

This division is very dangerous and very telling.

After seeing what happened in Amsterdam I’d not want them attending a match near me either!