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BlueDressontheLine · 13/11/2025 20:54

I cry all the time when im off anti depressants.

TorroFerney · 14/11/2025 07:23

Cookieandcandy · 04/11/2025 12:48

That doesn’t meet the definition of avoidant at all. Look it up and please don’t bandy psychiatric terms around unless you have been diagnosed as it is insulting to those who are actually suffering with the disorders in question.

Well luckily she’s not writing for a mental health journal. It’s clear what she means, I think of avoidant as attachment styles , the poster is probably fawning/people pleasing but, since that’s often a behaviour caused by trauma then let’s not be picky.

Cookieandcandy · 14/11/2025 09:40

TorroFerney · 14/11/2025 07:23

Well luckily she’s not writing for a mental health journal. It’s clear what she means, I think of avoidant as attachment styles , the poster is probably fawning/people pleasing but, since that’s often a behaviour caused by trauma then let’s not be picky.

Well you’d be completely wrong to think of avoidant as that. Dare I say it again - look it up - if you are interested in what it actually means.

ForRealViper · 14/11/2025 11:38

Cookieandcandy · 14/11/2025 09:40

Well you’d be completely wrong to think of avoidant as that. Dare I say it again - look it up - if you are interested in what it actually means.

Ex MH worker here. Colloquial use of psych terms are really helpful to people who want to find words to talk about their challenges. Not everything has to be aligned to the DSM-5. In fact, even professional diagnostic guidelines are generally more flexible than you're being.

Cookieandcandy · 14/11/2025 11:46

ForRealViper · 14/11/2025 11:38

Ex MH worker here. Colloquial use of psych terms are really helpful to people who want to find words to talk about their challenges. Not everything has to be aligned to the DSM-5. In fact, even professional diagnostic guidelines are generally more flexible than you're being.

I find it hard to believe you are medically qualified in the MH field to be spouting rubbish like that. The staff in the psych ward I was in were very quick to shut down anyone who (for example) spoke about their OCD in a colloquial way when they hadn’t been diagnosed. And as someone diagnosed with Avoidant Personality Disorder I find it distressing and disrespectful when the term avoidant is used so totally incorrectly,

ForRealViper · 14/11/2025 11:48

Cookieandcandy · 14/11/2025 11:46

I find it hard to believe you are medically qualified in the MH field to be spouting rubbish like that. The staff in the psych ward I was in were very quick to shut down anyone who (for example) spoke about their OCD in a colloquial way when they hadn’t been diagnosed. And as someone diagnosed with Avoidant Personality Disorder I find it distressing and disrespectful when the term avoidant is used so totally incorrectly,

Nah, I wasn't medically qualified, I was a support worker for years. Our frontline support model was probably very different, so my approach and use of terminology was different too.

Have you considered getting treatment for the 'distress' you're describing?

Cookieandcandy · 14/11/2025 11:55

ForRealViper · 14/11/2025 11:48

Nah, I wasn't medically qualified, I was a support worker for years. Our frontline support model was probably very different, so my approach and use of terminology was different too.

Have you considered getting treatment for the 'distress' you're describing?

No surprise there that you are not medically qualified. I don’t need treatment for being distressed when my condition is trivialised as it was by that poster. Weird that you don’t understand that point but enough said.

TorroFerney · 14/11/2025 11:59

So avoidant can be an attachment style , I am not wrong about that. It can also be avoidant personality disorder. Neither of which may be your personal challenge but that doesn’t make them wrong.

Words can be attributed to a few things, joy of language.

LapisBlue · 14/11/2025 12:01

I once slept with two men on the same day.

And then did the same thing about a year later - with two different guys.

Cookieandcandy · 14/11/2025 12:04

TorroFerney · 14/11/2025 11:59

So avoidant can be an attachment style , I am not wrong about that. It can also be avoidant personality disorder. Neither of which may be your personal challenge but that doesn’t make them wrong.

Words can be attributed to a few things, joy of language.

Even avoidant attachment style would not fit the way that the poster was using the term avoidant.

ForRealViper · 14/11/2025 12:18

Cookieandcandy · 14/11/2025 12:04

Even avoidant attachment style would not fit the way that the poster was using the term avoidant.

Attachment Styles are widely considered outdated pop-psych these days anyway, and aren't used by clinicians. It's a colloquial term from the get-go.

There's a conversation to be had about the medicalisation of the human condition, and whether or not people benefit from using clinical terms to self-describe, but it's not for here. The pp said something, and we all understood it.

Cookieandcandy · 14/11/2025 12:21

ForRealViper · 14/11/2025 12:18

Attachment Styles are widely considered outdated pop-psych these days anyway, and aren't used by clinicians. It's a colloquial term from the get-go.

There's a conversation to be had about the medicalisation of the human condition, and whether or not people benefit from using clinical terms to self-describe, but it's not for here. The pp said something, and we all understood it.

You only understood it because you don’t understand what avoidant actually means ( attachment style or PD). Look it up if you are actually interested or don’t if you want to perpetuate the ignorance about the term.
I’m done responding to this now.

browser2025 · 14/11/2025 14:07

I don’t enjoy being pregnant (currently). There’s nothing about it that I like. I hate the anxiety, the body changes, the constant feeling of helplessness and lack of motivation, the breathlessness, the sudden tears, the sore breasts, the back pain. I hate the attention it brings and the endless small talk filled with the same questions. I hate the sleepless nights, the uncertainty, the weight gain, the skin problems, every bit of it.

I do love life after those first six post‑partum months. I hate the breastfeeding struggles, the mastitis, and the exhaustion. But I do love being a mum. It’s something I dreamed of and worked for over many years, so I hesitate to voice how difficult this part feels. I know how lucky I am, and I genuinely appreciate the blessing, but it’s still horrible.

TorroFerney · 14/11/2025 17:56

ForRealViper · 14/11/2025 12:18

Attachment Styles are widely considered outdated pop-psych these days anyway, and aren't used by clinicians. It's a colloquial term from the get-go.

There's a conversation to be had about the medicalisation of the human condition, and whether or not people benefit from using clinical terms to self-describe, but it's not for here. The pp said something, and we all understood it.

Agreed.

TorroFerney · 14/11/2025 17:57

Cookieandcandy · 14/11/2025 12:21

You only understood it because you don’t understand what avoidant actually means ( attachment style or PD). Look it up if you are actually interested or don’t if you want to perpetuate the ignorance about the term.
I’m done responding to this now.

Fabulous.

BlueDressontheLine · 15/11/2025 08:24

Leaving my ex husband was the best thing I ever did. Despite the piling on of guilt from everyone still 6 years later

godmum56 · 15/11/2025 15:55

BlueDressontheLine · 15/11/2025 08:24

Leaving my ex husband was the best thing I ever did. Despite the piling on of guilt from everyone still 6 years later

why would you not say that publicly?

BlueDressontheLine · 15/11/2025 17:11

godmum56 · 15/11/2025 15:55

why would you not say that publicly?

Because people think hes a nice man😂 I was always the bad one. Maybe because I saw through his bull shit.

godmum56 · 15/11/2025 17:12

BlueDressontheLine · 15/11/2025 17:11

Because people think hes a nice man😂 I was always the bad one. Maybe because I saw through his bull shit.

no reason not to speak your truth

BlueDressontheLine · 15/11/2025 19:15

godmum56 · 15/11/2025 17:12

no reason not to speak your truth

I already did but I've been gaslighted so many times its not worth it. I save it for my counsellor now.

MatchaMatchaMatcha · 15/11/2025 20:54

Someone new has joined my friendship group, everyone seems to like her except for me - she's simply the rudest person I've ever met.

The older I get the more I think I will die by suicide.

BlueDressontheLine · 16/11/2025 09:50

MatchaMatchaMatcha · 15/11/2025 20:54

Someone new has joined my friendship group, everyone seems to like her except for me - she's simply the rudest person I've ever met.

The older I get the more I think I will die by suicide.

Why would you want to die by suicide ? It's awful you feel that way

breezyyy · 16/11/2025 09:54

BlueDressontheLine · 16/11/2025 09:50

Why would you want to die by suicide ? It's awful you feel that way

I feel the same and to me it’s logical. I don’t want to end up old and feeble, unable to care for myself. Or not of sound mind. That’s a very vulnerable position to be in. I want to take control. The ways are very limiting though, unfortunately.

the80sweregreat · 16/11/2025 11:39

I’d rather die than be in a care home with dementia making care home owners richer . I know that I probably wouldn’t have the courage to kill my self unless it was all organized for me , but the government and others fudge any kind of euthanasia laws and it’s ends up becoming messy ( which I do understand all the arguments, but also why can’t the person make an informed choice too ?)

breezyyy · 16/11/2025 11:49

the80sweregreat · 16/11/2025 11:39

I’d rather die than be in a care home with dementia making care home owners richer . I know that I probably wouldn’t have the courage to kill my self unless it was all organized for me , but the government and others fudge any kind of euthanasia laws and it’s ends up becoming messy ( which I do understand all the arguments, but also why can’t the person make an informed choice too ?)

...it is obvious that there is nothing in the world a man has a incontestable right to than his own life and person...
It will generally be found that where the terrors of life outweigh the terrors of death a man will put an end to his life.

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