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Winterlands · 20/10/2025 19:47

I detest superficial displays of happiness. People who are permanently positive really get up my nose because that’s not a natural state to be in, all the fucking time. Colleagues who pretend to be happy about everything - even when it’s clearly shit - are twats and I ignore them

fortinbra · 20/10/2025 19:52

Dontlletmedownbruce · 19/10/2025 16:00

I try to be sympathetic to people in different situations to mine but I cannot and will never understand anorexia and hope and pray my kids don't get it. I get you don't want to eat, but why cant you just open your mouth, put food in and swallow, job done. You don't have to enjoy the process. To me it seems entirely borne from vanity and self obsession. I never really felt strongly about it until recently when there has been so much hate towards obese people using injections to lose weight. As someone who struggled my whole life with weight, it's so insulting when people complain about the money it will cost the government, when we been funding anorexia treatment for decades, to people who don't want to get better anyway. At least most people taking weight loss injections want to get better. Yes, obesity is a new problem linked to our lifestyle, but addiction has been around since time immemorial. Anorexia became prevalent when people have more time to obsess about their looks, i don't know stats but I'm pretty sure young people working 14 hour days 6 days a week weren't all that concerned with their reflection. My gripe is not anorexics themselves it's the double standard with how people at two opposite sides of the same issue are treated.

Dear god. So little understanding of mental illness on this thread. People don't develop deadly mental illnesses that destroy their lives for fun. The way mental illness manifests and the way pain expresses itself changes depending on a person's culture and environment, but it is for that person an uncontrollable and compulsive response to whatever trauma/anxiety/pain they are experiencing. It is not simply people having too much time or vanity. It's nothing to do with vanity, in fact.

UnhappyHobbit · 20/10/2025 19:55

fortinbra · 20/10/2025 19:41

Unfortunately there doesn't need to be war on for a person to experience severe mental illness. That's not how it works. If you don't understand this, just be grateful you haven't experienced it and support those who do.

I’m going to give a brief example of a cousin of mine who was agoraphobic. He wouldn’t leave the house unless after 11pm for a walk and wouldn’t open his bedroom door if I came to visit. Well, his mother was a borderline pd alcoholic who stopped paying the bills. When they got forcefully evicted, my cousin had to leave and let me tell you, it did wonders for him. When you’re forced to, you do it. You go outside your comfort zone and you grow. I’m not dismissing mental health for one moment, I have suffered with it. But if a war were to come or real hardship like a famine, people would have to get their act together to survive.

fortinbra · 20/10/2025 20:16

UnhappyHobbit · 20/10/2025 19:55

I’m going to give a brief example of a cousin of mine who was agoraphobic. He wouldn’t leave the house unless after 11pm for a walk and wouldn’t open his bedroom door if I came to visit. Well, his mother was a borderline pd alcoholic who stopped paying the bills. When they got forcefully evicted, my cousin had to leave and let me tell you, it did wonders for him. When you’re forced to, you do it. You go outside your comfort zone and you grow. I’m not dismissing mental health for one moment, I have suffered with it. But if a war were to come or real hardship like a famine, people would have to get their act together to survive.

Ok, because your cousin did that, other people can do that too 🙄

If by 'get their act together' you mean go numb, force themselves to function and end up with even more trauma later on then yes, a war would totally sort people out.

UnhappyHobbit · 20/10/2025 20:27

fortinbra · 20/10/2025 20:16

Ok, because your cousin did that, other people can do that too 🙄

If by 'get their act together' you mean go numb, force themselves to function and end up with even more trauma later on then yes, a war would totally sort people out.

Yes, exactly. Other people can heal too. It’s not forcing people to function, it’s encouraging them to break through their constraints.

My point is, if we can do it in extreme circumstances where survival is at threat, we can do it in our comfortable modern lives.

Rayah · 20/10/2025 20:29

I read some of the food threads on here and in particular the UPF ones and just think some people have completely miserable, joyless lives.

I am all for eating healthy and cooking fresh food and cook from scratch but the lengths some people take it to here are absurd. I've seen people ban their kids from eating party food and cakes at parties, get up at 4am to make fresh bread to avoid the horrors of supermarket bread, spend an entire day each week chained to their kitchen making piles of flat breads, Yorkshire puddings, homemade stock while working full time and people losing their shit over stock cubes and shop bought mayonnaise.

There was an even a thread on the recipe section where someone asked about sides to serve with spaghetti bolognese and some posters were DISGUSTED at the notion of garlic bread and double carbs and one poster even suggested serving the bolognese with courgette instead of spaghetti.

I can't imagine being on my deathbed and being thankful I spent hours on end making absolutely and everything from scratch rather than spending time with my family and friends and spending pointless time worrying about the nutritional contents of shop bought bread and bloody stock cubes.

I think Billy Connolly sums it up best.

"The brown bread/white bread brigade. Absolute pains in the arse. You’re just about to bite into a lovely big white bread sandwich and some spotty wee idiot comes along and says, “Do you know they put bleach in that and it poisons you?”
“Aye – and it’s f. kin’ delicious!” And I also like to say to them, “I hate brown bread – you never know when it’s toasted!”
But instead I ask them: “You eat brown bread your whole life. I eat white bread my whole life. How much longer are you going to live than me? A fortnight? Ten days? Don’t say 20 years – you know that’s crap.
We’re talking a fortnight – tops. But it isn’t a fortnight when you’re 18, shagging everything that walks in front of you.
No, it’s a fortnight when you’re in an old folks’ home, pissing in your trousers, being fed out of a blender! And the nurse who’s feeding you is going: ‘Aw, you’re looking awful sad! There’s such an awful sad expression on your face. Is that because all your friends are dead? Aw, they were the white bread crowd. But don’t you worry – you’ve got another two weeks to go!’”

ERthree · 20/10/2025 20:42

fortinbra · 20/10/2025 20:16

Ok, because your cousin did that, other people can do that too 🙄

If by 'get their act together' you mean go numb, force themselves to function and end up with even more trauma later on then yes, a war would totally sort people out.

Many people have to force themselves to get out of bed each day and function but they have no choice. Of course some people have serious mental illnesses and really can;t function but there are many that give up when faced with the slightest struggle, I feel so sorry for those that are truly ill ( my BIL) because MH is now used by those that use it as an excuse.

scalt · 20/10/2025 22:01

@godmum56 That Napsbury Estate is near to where I live. As a slight aside, I have wondered why there are so many of these housing estates made out of former residential hospitals - don't we need the hospitals any more? Now we know, those who did live there are not isolated from everybody else, like they used to be.

Wellyoudidaskaboutit · 20/10/2025 22:19

ERthree · 20/10/2025 20:42

Many people have to force themselves to get out of bed each day and function but they have no choice. Of course some people have serious mental illnesses and really can;t function but there are many that give up when faced with the slightest struggle, I feel so sorry for those that are truly ill ( my BIL) because MH is now used by those that use it as an excuse.

I refuse to wear a sunflower lanyard because of some of the other people wearing them…

godmum56 · 20/10/2025 22:27

scalt · 20/10/2025 22:01

@godmum56 That Napsbury Estate is near to where I live. As a slight aside, I have wondered why there are so many of these housing estates made out of former residential hospitals - don't we need the hospitals any more? Now we know, those who did live there are not isolated from everybody else, like they used to be.

By and large, no we don't. Care and knowledge are much improved as is medication. Its nowhere near fixed or perfect of course, but the "dumping grounds" are a thing of the past and a good thing too!

Confessionsthrowaway · 20/10/2025 22:30

Horsie · 20/10/2025 13:59

I’m currently in a huge Marks and Sparks cafe and the entire place is full of young healthy-looking work refusers retirees. I reckon there’s a good hundred work-years collectively left in this lot before they collapse into the dust like that horse in Gone with the Wind. 🤣 I want to yell “OK, lunchtime’s over, back to work everyone!” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

OFFS. You're ridiculous.

FastFood · 20/10/2025 22:32

I prefer living in a flat than in a house and wouldn't like to have a garden. When I was looking for a flat, I ruled out garden flats because well, garden, and they were either ground floor or basement flats.

ToWhitToWhoo · 20/10/2025 22:36

But if a war were to come or real hardship like a famine, people would have to get their act together to survive.

And many of them wouldn't survive.

And many of those who survivef the immediate crisis would have permanent severe damage to their physical and mental health,

I believe that more soldiers from the Iraq War took their own lives subsequently than were killed in battle.

ToWhitToWhoo · 20/10/2025 22:44

FastFood · 20/10/2025 22:32

I prefer living in a flat than in a house and wouldn't like to have a garden. When I was looking for a flat, I ruled out garden flats because well, garden, and they were either ground floor or basement flats.

I'm the same!

WigglywagglyWanda · 20/10/2025 22:45

manicpixieschemegirl · 19/10/2025 08:43

America is the best place for the highly obnoxious.

Well said

I was thinking the same when I came across your post.

Would never say it in real life if course, as per the threads premise, but im extremely glad certain folk posting here do not share my land mass.🥳

Beanscene · 20/10/2025 23:14

I've have only slept with DH and am in my 40s.

Netcurtainnelly · 21/10/2025 00:17

beguilingeyes · 19/10/2025 13:50

I think that god invented football/sport so that men would have something to talk about.

Women like and play sport too you know. Outdated thing to say.

fortinbra · 21/10/2025 01:32

ERthree · 20/10/2025 20:42

Many people have to force themselves to get out of bed each day and function but they have no choice. Of course some people have serious mental illnesses and really can;t function but there are many that give up when faced with the slightest struggle, I feel so sorry for those that are truly ill ( my BIL) because MH is now used by those that use it as an excuse.

Thankfully we have people like you around to police who is ill and who is just weak

fortinbra · 21/10/2025 01:34

UnhappyHobbit · 20/10/2025 20:27

Yes, exactly. Other people can heal too. It’s not forcing people to function, it’s encouraging them to break through their constraints.

My point is, if we can do it in extreme circumstances where survival is at threat, we can do it in our comfortable modern lives.

I'm not sure you understand the complexities of mental illness

fortinbra · 21/10/2025 01:35

ToWhitToWhoo · 20/10/2025 22:36

But if a war were to come or real hardship like a famine, people would have to get their act together to survive.

And many of them wouldn't survive.

And many of those who survivef the immediate crisis would have permanent severe damage to their physical and mental health,

I believe that more soldiers from the Iraq War took their own lives subsequently than were killed in battle.

Exactly. The idea of war being a cure for mental health is quite something.

Noshadelamp · 21/10/2025 04:09

Dontlletmedownbruce · 19/10/2025 16:00

I try to be sympathetic to people in different situations to mine but I cannot and will never understand anorexia and hope and pray my kids don't get it. I get you don't want to eat, but why cant you just open your mouth, put food in and swallow, job done. You don't have to enjoy the process. To me it seems entirely borne from vanity and self obsession. I never really felt strongly about it until recently when there has been so much hate towards obese people using injections to lose weight. As someone who struggled my whole life with weight, it's so insulting when people complain about the money it will cost the government, when we been funding anorexia treatment for decades, to people who don't want to get better anyway. At least most people taking weight loss injections want to get better. Yes, obesity is a new problem linked to our lifestyle, but addiction has been around since time immemorial. Anorexia became prevalent when people have more time to obsess about their looks, i don't know stats but I'm pretty sure young people working 14 hour days 6 days a week weren't all that concerned with their reflection. My gripe is not anorexics themselves it's the double standard with how people at two opposite sides of the same issue are treated.

Wow it's breathtaking you're not even trying to understand, and completely close minded.

So I really hope none of your children suffer with it either because

  1. it is relentlessly heartbreaking and soul destroying for the victim and their loved ones
  1. there's a real risk they could die from it

And 3. their parent lacks basic knowledge that is easy to get (hint, google) and empathy, which unfortunately isn't as easy to get.

Kateluvscats1 · 21/10/2025 05:38

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Totally agree

RealReginaPhalange · 21/10/2025 07:18

Breatfeeding disguists me.

UnhappyHobbit · 21/10/2025 07:52

fortinbra · 21/10/2025 01:34

I'm not sure you understand the complexities of mental illness

Perhaps you don’t either. That is such a blanket statement to try and disarm the arguement. People with mental illness can make improvements. It’s why therapy exists.

RememberBeKindWithKaren · 21/10/2025 08:23

One of my friends' sons is gay. For no other reason that I can work out, she feels the need to go on the pride march every year. Fine, go for it, but it just seems to be a performance. If a person is gay then I get it, if you aren't, isn't it a bit patronising? Does a gay person need their parent to be supporting them? God knows. But I will never tell her this to her face.

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