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ThatsNotMyNameAlan · 17/10/2025 14:14

amibeingaknob · 17/10/2025 14:07

TBH its taken YEARS to admit it to myself. So maybe I will say it out loud eventually to loved ones. Right now, I don't tell a soul.

I admit I can’t imagine feeling like that about my kids but then they’re nice 🤷‍♀️
No judgement from me. I’m sorry though; I expect you’d rather she was less awful so you could have a normal friendly, loving relationship.

Is she your only child?

Adirtyspoon · 17/10/2025 14:17

Jugjug · 17/10/2025 14:10

nevermind Name change failed

Edited

More surprising if you weren’t embarrassed by him

Adirtyspoon · 17/10/2025 14:20

amibeingaknob · 17/10/2025 14:05

I could give lots of examples but I dont want to. Id get lots of sympathy and horror but I no longer need the validation tbh.

I dont think the lack of interest makes her sad. I think the fact I won't allow her to abuse me anymore and make me doubt myself, and that I finally enforced boundaries with her makes her utterly furious tbh.

There is absolutely nothing she could do to redeem herself. I thought about it a lot - it wouldn't happen, but even if she had a personality transplant and was full of remorse and wanted to atone, she simply couldn't. I would never be able to forgive, and I would forever be wary that the rug would be pulled at any point. She is a very dangerous person, and I wouldn't be able to allow her access to me for risk of her causing further harm.

I do admit IRL that I can't have her in my life, and I won't ever forgive her - what I don't admit is that I don't love her or miss her and I prefer it this way now. That, I think, is too hard for a mother to admit out loud. If it wasn't happening to me, I may have judged myself.

What was the situation when she was a child?

What’s your relationship like with your other children? @amibeingaknob

Itsallsostressful · 17/10/2025 14:27

Sometimes I really dislike my husband and his family and when I'm home alone I go around loudly saying what I really think.

I hate that I'm so obsessed with doing the right thing and what other people will think.

I'm type 2 diabetic and my blood sugars are up and I feel so disgusting as I know I could do so much better with my eating.

Confessionsthrowaway · 17/10/2025 14:30

simplesimoneatspie · 17/10/2025 14:11

That people who choose not to have kids are often self absorbed and immature ….

That's nonsense. There are plenty of parents who are self absorbed and immature as well.

Confessionsthrowaway · 17/10/2025 14:31

Adirtyspoon · 17/10/2025 14:20

What was the situation when she was a child?

What’s your relationship like with your other children? @amibeingaknob

Why are you asking so many questions in a rather aggressive way? I think I recognize your posting style from other threads. If you are who I think you are, knock it off.

MsBertieBoo · 17/10/2025 14:34

Am currently ignoring an email from a client saying something is urgent for this afternoon (which I am stuck on) and semi seriously considering having a glass of wine instead 😂

Lilaclane · 17/10/2025 14:39

to continue..

I like kids, but never really wanted to have my own. I shudder when I see both sides of the debate get poisonous. It would be boring if we were all the same, eh? Ahem.

Without doing regular exercise, I think I would have ended up in a psychiatric unit or doing harm to myself.

I'm convinced every man will shaft me. Being sexually attracted to men has been the bane of my existence; the best and worst times of my life have been due to men. Even at my ripe age I fear relationships going south.

ChessBess · 17/10/2025 14:39

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 16/10/2025 09:13

I am terrified of there being a war. I remember my parents (who were teenagers during WW2) talking about bomb shelters and watching places burn and I just... can't. I can't look at the news, I can't read anything that talks about war. I feel dreadful about it but I am so scared of it. And yet, in some ways I secretly think that it would shake up the complacency of some people who claim 'anxiety' or who can't work because 'it's too hard on their Mental Health' (I should state that I'm not talking about those who are genuinely ill or suffer genuine anxiety, I'm talking about those who use it as a 'get out' for not doing things they don't want to). More people would be forced to work whether they wanted to or not, and the whole of the disposable society would receive a huge wake up call. But then I think of all the genuinely vulnerable people who would suffer and I feel bad all over again.

So I think a war might show a lot of people just how privileged they are. But I really really don't want it to happen.

And I can't say it to anyone.

How old are you? You must be near 80 if your parents were teenagers during WW2.

DeanStockwelll · 17/10/2025 14:39

WhywasIborntoolate · 16/10/2025 18:59

Tell David walliams. It would make a funny story

I am sure @Soveryitchy would find this absolutely hilarious, NOT !

Mushroo · 17/10/2025 14:44

Im so lazy, and do not care about work at all. I never have spanning from minimum wage jobs to my now quite well paid job.

I go in, I do what I’m supposed to and put on a front, but I genuinely do not care whatsoever.

People agonising about targets, or PowerPoint fonts, or strategy, it’s all meaningless anyway.

I spend most of my time procrastinating on mumsnet.

I often feel guilty that I’m well paid for doing really not a lot.

amibeingaknob · 17/10/2025 14:45

Confessionsthrowaway · 17/10/2025 14:31

Why are you asking so many questions in a rather aggressive way? I think I recognize your posting style from other threads. If you are who I think you are, knock it off.

I agree. I don't have to answer questions, and I know they are trying to find out if I am maybe the problem.

I dont need to justify myself. Spent YEARS doing that - no longer.

I will add though, I have three other children, and despite eldest best efforts, I have beautiful relationship with them. Thats why I cannot forgive. She hurt my other children. Deeply. And she hurt my bond with them for a while.

I totally understand when people say they can't imagine feeling that way about their child, but you don't know what you would feel in someone elses shoes. For me, my line didnt seem to be about hurting me - and that went on years and year - its when it crossed into hurting the others.

BUT even if she hadn't, if Id be advising a friend I would say to go NC because she is dangerous. In my work I advise people of this. No-one should stay in any kind of relationship that is toxic. No matter who they are. For some reason society says that excludes mother-child. I disagree now.

CrispsPlease · 17/10/2025 14:47

TigTails · 17/10/2025 12:54

I agreed if this happened to one of my friends I’d be horrified at the thought of her blaming herself!

I really hope that poster one day feels able to put herself out there and make friends. I honestly believe after getting to know someone most women would be so supportive of such a terrible predicament, especially as the poor woman actually done the 100% correct thing and shopped him to the police. I'd not judge the woman at all if she was my friend.

ChessBess · 17/10/2025 14:49

ThatsNotMyNameAlan · 16/10/2025 09:41

I thought exactly the same when reading a post the other day about someone’s son having MH issues, won’t work, can’t go out etc - what on EARTH would happen to these people if they had real hardship to overcome, like war? Would people be pussyfooting round them? No. They’d have to get a fucking grip.

I don’t think it works like that. They’d likely commit suicide like those with severe MH issues often do now. Everything is relative and whilst we live in an easier world in some ways now, in other ways it’s more difficult.

I think the vast majority of us would absolutely struggle in WW3 broke out given we’ve all had “easy” lives in comparison

Kingsleadhat · 17/10/2025 14:49

ChessBess · 17/10/2025 14:39

How old are you? You must be near 80 if your parents were teenagers during WW2.

My dad was a teenager when ww2 ended and I'm in my late sixties, this poster could be similar. Not sure why it's relevant, though

Differentforgirls · 17/10/2025 14:49

CanIbeRio · 17/10/2025 13:28

Love this! Made me lsugh so much, but sorry for all your difficult customers

Me too. It is one of the best posts I have read on here. So funny. 😂

CrispsPlease · 17/10/2025 14:51

amibeingaknob · 17/10/2025 14:45

I agree. I don't have to answer questions, and I know they are trying to find out if I am maybe the problem.

I dont need to justify myself. Spent YEARS doing that - no longer.

I will add though, I have three other children, and despite eldest best efforts, I have beautiful relationship with them. Thats why I cannot forgive. She hurt my other children. Deeply. And she hurt my bond with them for a while.

I totally understand when people say they can't imagine feeling that way about their child, but you don't know what you would feel in someone elses shoes. For me, my line didnt seem to be about hurting me - and that went on years and year - its when it crossed into hurting the others.

BUT even if she hadn't, if Id be advising a friend I would say to go NC because she is dangerous. In my work I advise people of this. No-one should stay in any kind of relationship that is toxic. No matter who they are. For some reason society says that excludes mother-child. I disagree now.

It sounds as though you've been to hell and back. But I'll be honest: I do wince at reading that you "don't love her" that's the worst thing a mother can say about their child. Believe me, she'll know that.
I've heard "I don't like you but I still love you" which is still quite something, but "I don't love her" is quite a statement. Unless she's a paedophile or she murdered a sibling or something, I can't see how you can write a daughter off so completely. You have no obligation to answer any of this. But it does make for hard reading. You can't help wondering whether your daughter picked up your "nothingness" towards her from day 1. Chicken/egg.

ChessBess · 17/10/2025 14:55

Kingsleadhat · 17/10/2025 14:49

My dad was a teenager when ww2 ended and I'm in my late sixties, this poster could be similar. Not sure why it's relevant, though

It’s relevant because it’s not an immediate threat, though I agree things could escalate over the years. Someone in their 80’s has less chance of it impacting them as much someone in their 30’s. The older ones will be looked after, it’s the younger generation that will be sent off to fight and will have to suffer the consequences for years later. Hopefully it won’t come to that.

Totally understandable worrying about your kids/grandkids though as that would be awful

CrispsPlease · 17/10/2025 14:56

@Saddm I keep thinking about you. Please don't give up on friendships. I hope I stand with most other women on here who would never blame you for the actions of your son and would be 100% supportive of you as a mother who's been through her own personal hell because of his actions. Every paedophile (sadly there are a lot) have innocent mothers all feeling probably a very similar way to you. The crimes of these people are their fault and their fault only.

looselegs · 17/10/2025 14:57

I detest having to work full time because my husband can't work at all due to his health.
No way do I blame him whatsoever. He was 48 years old when he had to give up a job that he absolutely loved, and would have done till the day he died. He's always worked and hates not being able to anymore.But my life had to change too. I'm 57,my own health isn't brilliant and I'm going through the menopause. I struggle a lot some days.I have a physically demanding job as a childminder. I care for young children and school age children. I've worked full time since I left school and my plan was to look at going part time when I was around 55 years old then to stop looking after school aged children completely. I now work harder than ever- the preschool children are particularly challenging- with 3 young children and 4 school aged children in my care.The children are very well looked after but by the end of the day I'm knackered and ache so much. If I tell my husband he just sats " I know how you feel" or " welcome to my world!"
My husbands benefits just about cover our grocery bill every month and I have to pay everything else- mortgage, council tax, gas,electric.....all the household bills, as well as Christmas presents, clothes etc. Our mortgage is interest only and ends in a few years so God knows what we'll do then, because we don't have the money to pay it off.If he wants to buy something and we can't afford it, he goes all sulky about it.I've tried to talk to him about this but I don't think he actually realises what MY life is like now and he never asks. He complains a lot about the children being in the house, but doesn't complain when their money comes in at the end of the month.
I love him to bits but just feel bogged down and unappreciated.

Fishplates · 17/10/2025 15:00

Beekman · 16/10/2025 02:42

I rent an apartment and all that is in it is a large brown sectional and a massive telly. Oh, and a kettle. I go there twice a week and watch true crime documentaries and cry about my mum, who died three years ago. I spend a couple of days a week there and then go back to my lovely home where my husband lives and our grown kids visit all the time. Not a soul knows about this.

I feel you ♥️

I book a hotel room one day a week, order room service, watch TV and weep.

Can’t do it at home - if I break down at home I’m not sure I’d ever stop.

I have absolutely no idea what the lady on reception thinks I’m doing there each week in the day time!

Kingsleadhat · 17/10/2025 15:01

CrispsPlease · 17/10/2025 11:14

Sorry to say it. But that smugness can quickly turn when you're old and vulnerable and realise there's no invite to Christmas dinner for you, brothers and sisters all dead , parents dead. You're it. Last of the line. No cuddles or coffees out when you're lonely. Not being able to relate to your peers having "grandchildren" as you get older. Friends will naturally be far more tied up with their growing families for time with a friend who doesn't understand. I know it sounds harsh (and good for you for being happy with your choices ) but that smugness might not last forever when you're older, vulnerable and in a slightly less "usual" situation than your peers. My aunt never had children (not entirely through choice ) and she felt so depressed in old age when all her sisters died and she had no first degree relatives and beyond. (Although she had us it wasn't the same )

Also, truthfully, although life is incredibly busy at times , my children are my world and they bring me untold joy. I don't get people that moan about kids and parenting. Sure, it's busy. But i don't find it hard work. i feel lucky . Incredibly lucky.

Having children doesn't guarantee anything.

amibeingaknob · 17/10/2025 15:02

CrispsPlease · 17/10/2025 14:51

It sounds as though you've been to hell and back. But I'll be honest: I do wince at reading that you "don't love her" that's the worst thing a mother can say about their child. Believe me, she'll know that.
I've heard "I don't like you but I still love you" which is still quite something, but "I don't love her" is quite a statement. Unless she's a paedophile or she murdered a sibling or something, I can't see how you can write a daughter off so completely. You have no obligation to answer any of this. But it does make for hard reading. You can't help wondering whether your daughter picked up your "nothingness" towards her from day 1. Chicken/egg.

I wonder why you have assumed I always didn't love her and she must have known. I loved that girl with all of my being, and Im a very expressive nurturing sort but my feelings change about 3 years ago when she was 23, and I snapped. Yes what she did and continues to do is that bad. It took an incredible amount for me to reach this place - including a psychotic break and a shit tonne of therapy. 'Good' mothers can and should turn their back on adult children. Sometimes it is vital to their happiness and wellbeing.

Because of what happened to me I joined a support group for parents of adult children going through similar. Its not as rare as you'd think. We aren't monsters and we have usually been pushed to the absolute brink.

user1492538376 · 17/10/2025 15:02

ForRealViper · 17/10/2025 10:51

Namechanged for this.

I never talk about it out loud, but I'm so pleased with myself for not having children. I think about it every day. It's at the back of my mind every time I talk to someone with kids, or see or hear a child.

I respect children and want them to be safe and happy (part of my job is to fundraise for children's community projects), but I never want them near me, and never, ever want one in my home. I can't fathom what possesses people to have children by choice, especially in this day and age. To me, there are plenty of people who are already alive who could benefit from my skill set, so that's what I apply myself to.

When people with children talk about their fantasy of a perfect day/life, they very often describe a life just like mine. Quiet, clean house, doing as I please, my money being mine alone, making modest but carefree travel plans. I have never once fantasised about a life with children, it looks positively masochistic.

When I was younger, people told me I'd regret not having children. One people even described it as "cheating". Now I'm older, people are starting to admit that they think I made the better call. I pretend not to know what they mean and say "Oh, I'm sure that's not true! Everyone's different!". But I agree.

When people say that childfree women "don't know how hard it is to be a parent", they're wrong, I do know, that's why I didn't do it. When people say I "don't know how good I have it", I do know, that's why I made the choices I did. I think about how good I have it every day I wake up!

I'd go as far as to say that I'm smug as fuck. But it would be rude of me to let on in real life, so I keep it quiet.

You see I have been childfree and now have children and know which is better :) You will never know because you dont have them. I would never admit this IRL but I feel sorry for people without children.

Also I feel the way you describe about other people’s children. Its very different when they are your own.

godmum56 · 17/10/2025 15:03

simplesimoneatspie · 17/10/2025 14:11

That people who choose not to have kids are often self absorbed and immature ….

also happy

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