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Dh and his principles

252 replies

Sparklesandspandexgallore · 15/10/2025 12:31

I will start this by saying dh get on well. We generally share the same values and beliefs. We are very similar.
We both have adult dcs from previous relationships. Everyone gets on well, no issues whatsoever.
However, dh has become more and more vocal about the leaders of foreign countries. He strongly disagrees with certain politicians policies. I get that.
The issue is my dd has the opportunity to go and live and work in one of these countries. It is a fabulous opportunity which most people will never get. She wants to go and will be well rewarded by her employer for going.
She has looked at what this entails. She will be able to return if she doesn’t like it etc.
I have said I will go and visit her. I would not be able to afford to go otherwise.
Dh has said he will not go on principle.
He has then moaned that ‘I will be leaving him on his own.’
I am currently under an immense amount of stress and shouted at him that I don’t give a fuck about his bloody principles. I also said if he wants to sit in the house all day and refuse to go to this and that country then fine, but I am going.
I also said would he really not see his own dcs for years due to principles?
He said yes he absolutely would stick to his principles and not see his children rather than go to any country which he disagrees with.
I don’t think I am being unreasonable.
It ended with me shouting that I’m sick and tired of all this. That I don’t care about what politicians are doing. That I’m thinking of MY feelings for once and putting myself first.
He says well thank god someone cares about these countries.
I have said that my going will not have any impact on the leaders of these countries.
I care more about my dcs than anyone else.
Dh thinks I am selfish.
Let me also add that I have done lots of things for charities over the years, all at my own expense.
Thanks if you have got this far.
Anyone else been on this situation?

OP posts:
topcat2014 · 15/10/2025 19:06

Life is too short to turn into a grumpy old bastard- I decided to spend much less time worrying about any world politics as it was affecting my wellbeing. I also watch much less news for the same reason. That makes me selfish but I was struggling to sleep.

arcticpandas · 15/10/2025 19:49

thornbury · 15/10/2025 18:41

You need to educate yourself on women's position in the UAE.

Domestic violence is legal in the UAE because Islam allows a husband to chastise or discipline his wife and minor children. Sadly, when women go to the police to report violence the police don’t always take claims seriously, because they are considered a private domestic matter. Wives are obligated to obey their husbands. Rape victims seeking support can be, and have been, charged with illicit sex – which is illegal and criminalized in the UAE. In this respect, women’s rights in the United Arab Emirates fall short of other cultures around the world.

user1471600850 · 15/10/2025 20:15

FFS she is talking about the USA - get a grip all of you!

BoredZelda · 15/10/2025 20:18

I wouldn’t visit the US right now if you paid me £1m, no matter who I was visiting.

But, if you and she want to go, you do you. He’ll just have to live with that.

coxesorangepippin · 15/10/2025 20:25

It's not the UAE, it'll be the US

justasking111 · 15/10/2025 20:36

DS travelled to and through many countries I wasn't thrilled with one part of Africa he had to stay in en route, dangerous. Travelling by train through Iran I was very fearful for him. Rightly as I subsequently found out. Brazil was a bit hairy.

But America by comparison is pretty safe, just keep your wits about you, avoid parts of it.

As a foreigner don't talk about politics. Enjoy the rest

Crinkle77 · 15/10/2025 21:20

EgregiouslyOverdressed · 15/10/2025 18:27

Not if she’s already pregnant, she can’t. It’s not dramatic, it’s a very sensible precaution.

I should have said she could come home for an abortion if that's why you said she should get good contraception. Surely there'd be nothing stopping her from leaving the country to get one? Girls in Ireland used to do it all the time.

RawBloomers · 15/10/2025 22:26

EgregiouslyOverdressed · 15/10/2025 18:27

Not if she’s already pregnant, she can’t. It’s not dramatic, it’s a very sensible precaution.

She has far more right to an abortion in some areas of the US than she does in England.

MrsTerryPratchett · 16/10/2025 04:12

The US is easy. She can get a quick, cheap flight to Mexico or Canada to meet us with you both. Mexico is definitely the cheaper option.

There is a travel boycott of the States and it is having an impact. I would go right now either. Fortunately DD hates what's happening as well so no chance of her moving there.

XWKD · 16/10/2025 04:57

It's easy to stick to your principles when it doesn't cost you anything. You're not obliged to accommodate HIS principles.

There are places I won't go to, but any possible consequences of that should be my problem alone.

NJLX2021 · 16/10/2025 05:33

I live in a country where I've had multiple people say to me that they won't visit because of their principles.

Honestly, it is largely grandstanding bollocks, and I somewhat pitty them for missing out on a great place and some great people.

3 things I would say to him:

1, by refusing to go to an entire country you are doing nothing to harm or protest against their government. you are not achieving anything. The leaders of that country don't give a crap, and would probably laugh at how you are hurting your self(by distancing your self from family) in order to achieve nothing.

2, Differentiate between the people of the country and the government. Don't hurt the people or take actions (like not visiting) towards them, because of the actions of a government that they likely have no control over.

3, Have humility. I guarantee your husband doesn't fully understand that country. I am amazed continually by how little people from the U.K. understand the country I live in - constantly I hear the same generalizations and misconceptions about it, simplistic opinions parroted on social media.. And yet when people do come to visit me here, they quickly see that isn't exactly what they expected. It is highly unlikely that people like your husband, sat judging from far away, actually have a proper of deep understanding of a country they have never been to or interacted with.

PollyBell · 16/10/2025 05:36

So he doesnt want to go and you do so go, I dont see why all the drama had to happen just go if you want, he is as adult and can look after himself so just go

NJLX2021 · 16/10/2025 05:39

oh my.. just saw that it is the USA.

Not visiting a country because of Trump? when more than half of that countries agrees with you (see his current disapproval ratings) is weird. Especially as America is a collection of states, with vastly different opinions and support for Trump, and different individual policy positions.

Why doesn't he just visit a heavily democrat state? He will be surrounded by people who agree with him and can probably join in with a protest while he is there...

summershere99 · 16/10/2025 05:54

The US? It’s laughable honestly. It’s an amazing opportunity for your DD and I genuinely hope she goes. I can’t bear the ignorance about the US. Like a PP said many many Americans can’t stand Trump but the direct impact he has on their lives is not huge for the majority especially in Democratic states. You’ll have an amazing time visiting her and I would definitely ignore your DH. It’s fine for him to not want to go but he can’t force his views on others and control what people choose to do.

CocoaLife · 16/10/2025 06:51

Do what works for you and ignore him, and honestly, ignore everyone here too. It sounds like you’re finally doing what you want to do so you shouldn’t be asking people here either, just do it!

MermaidMummy06 · 16/10/2025 07:02

Honestly, there's no need for the drana.

Just tell him you're DD is going, you'll be going to visit her, and he can make his own choice. And you absolutely will not tolerate any rude comments about it, or moaning about you leaving him alone, because he's a grown man who can surely survive on his own for a couple of weeks!!

Then go!! Woo-hoo.

CountryChristmas · 16/10/2025 07:27

There are lots of things I don’t agree with but seeing my children would come above the vast majority. I certainly wouldn’t let a dislike of Donald Trump stop me seeing my children. 🙄

If he really does stick to his principles on everything, fair play to him, but I would find him too much. So many things are less than perfect in this world, that if I stood by my principles to that degree, I couldn't work for many companies, I couldn’t travel to many places, I wouldn’t use most products or shops, I couldn’t watch many films etc. We have to live in a world which can be quite unethical amongst things that we don’t agree with and we only get one life. I’d tell him to be quiet and that he is becoming insufferable.

RosenWilloughby · 16/10/2025 07:33

It's all a bit obsessive to be frank. Your husband needs a new hobby.

TravelPanic · 16/10/2025 07:38

I understand him not wanting to go himself. DH and I have agreed we won’t visit USA while trump is in power. But he definitely shouldn’t try to persuade you not to go to visit your daughter or complain about being left alone!

one question for you though… are you/your daughter white? Because if not, you should warn your daughter that things are not looking great right now for non-white immigrants in the US and there have been some high profile violent raids by immigration officials.

Wallywobbles · 16/10/2025 07:41

There’s no country, politician or principle that would stop me visiting my kids. And OP I think your husband is a total ass. But apparently he’s not alone.

defrazzled · 16/10/2025 08:01

The hatred of DT is bizarre to me, does your DH feel the same way about China, India, most of the middle East?
I assume it was UAE or Saudi. Batshit.

TheGrimSmile · 16/10/2025 08:03

gannett · 15/10/2025 15:48

To be honest, the USA is a red line for me right now. It's not just to do with disliking Trump. For many reasons and on many levels I would not feel safe there.

Me neither. I'd be very worried if my dd was going to live there. It is not a safe country for many people or for women.

MushMonster · 16/10/2025 08:10

I voted YABU, but you both are.
If your DD wants to take the job, she should.
If you want to visit her there, you should.
If your DH does not want to go, then he should not.
It is called freedom of belief and concience. You can discuss each others point of view, of course. But no need to argue. I get you lost it, but you should have not said such harsh words. He is entitled to his thoughts and act according to that. And you to yours.

PollyBell · 16/10/2025 08:16

MushMonster · 16/10/2025 08:10

I voted YABU, but you both are.
If your DD wants to take the job, she should.
If you want to visit her there, you should.
If your DH does not want to go, then he should not.
It is called freedom of belief and concience. You can discuss each others point of view, of course. But no need to argue. I get you lost it, but you should have not said such harsh words. He is entitled to his thoughts and act according to that. And you to yours.

This sums it up perfectly

AdoraBell · 16/10/2025 08:18

YANBU OP