To now be increasingly concerned about illegal boat arrivals

[CalmShaker]

I've kept a level head with boat crossing arrivals but recently I've become concerned that there are some really unpleasant people being let in. This story was hard to watch on the news this evening;

Asylum seeker 'murdered hotel worker Rhiannon Whyte in frenzied attack' - BBC News https://share.google/qxzed2MD19TYPKasQ

I welcome genuine asylum but I don't believe that is what is happening anymore.
The story immediately before the above on national news this evening was the migrant who had threatened Nigel Farrage. I know Nigel is not the most popular of people but the migrant was horrid, clearly dangerous and not safe to be on our streets.
Financial cost and all other factors aside, it's the safety aspect that worry me most.

Part of the asylum process is being screened for criminal records. The Home Office don't automatically treat people as criminals. Not yet anyway.

Gaslighting 101

How on earth, pray tell, do you screen an UNDOCUMENTED person for a criminal record?
I'm waiting with bated breath.

Biometrics.... you know, like fingerprints. Do you think these people come from outer space

Biometrics.... you know, like fingerprints. Do you think these people come from outer space

And the fingerprints of someone who literally threw their documents in the channel are going to tell us... what, exactly?

It is gaslighting

And eg the Taliban has this information? And share it?

😂😂😂
Just that really

So how do you know they're criminals without proof. You're just assuming.

You know what, you’re right. We should absolutely assume the best of everyone and when the next person is assaulted or raped or has a screwdriver driven into her brain then that’s just bad luck, right?

How were we to know?

How do you know they aren’t?!

That’s called safeguarding.
Assuming that anyone could be a criminal.

First of all, by coming into the country illegally shows a willingness to break the law straight off the bat. Also take into account some of the stats mentioned already on this thread where they are in some cases 100s of times more likely to commit certain crimes and draw your own conclusions if you are capable of a bit of critical thinking. How does that sound?

Is this accepting there’s no fingerprints then?

They do just get here without that information, you don’t know if they have committed crimes.

Hell, why have any border controls? Or security at airports? Everyone’s just lovely and should waft about unimpeded anywhere! Rapists? Terrorists? Where’s the evidence? Links, please! Bigot! Racist! Ad infinitum…

This is so woefully misguided it's beggars belief. It speaks a lot to how we are taught to have no boundaries and gaslit out of all senses.

You have a skewered interpretation of 'privilege' and no understanding of geo politics.

Ask yourself if you would go on holiday/ your teenage daughter wanted to go backpacking alone in Somalia. How do you think that would go?

Or when you travel and have to check if there are government warnings about civil unrest in certain areas and where to avoid.
You've probably travelled in the last 10 years and had to do that, right?

Well this has shocked me beyond belief and I feel so angry I could cry.

I wonder if those saying that more women are killed by family members will be of the same mindset if it was their child. Oh it doesn't matter, many more girls are murdered by family.
Thought not.

Again you're assuming. Given what the majority of these people are escaping from it's not surprising they'll use any method of entry. As for willingness to "break the law" that's probably the least if their concerns.

If you want to get in a twist look at the entrants that just stroll in with a legal passport on a visa and vanish.

It seems a huge part of this problem is that asylum seekers can only claim asylum when on British soil - hence the need/desire to arrive here by whatever means they can, chucking paperwork into the sea as they go.

Isn’t there a better way? If they could apply via an embassy abroad, they could be properly checked, and if they’re not going to be granted asylum, they never arrive here. Then we don’t have the hotels and the months’ long processing time. I’ve never understood why we can’t do something like this, perhaps I’m missing something obvious?

How do you know what the OP looks like?

Yes, I am assuming that the odds of these guys committing heinous crimes are 100s of times greater than the general public because that's what the facts and figures tell me. Are they wrong do you think or would you agree that these people are a much much much greater risk of harming women and girls? Are you OK with 100s of times higher risk?
It's kinda like in the same way if I hear a woman has been raped I ASSUME its been done by a man. Would that assumption be wrong of me?
We can assume things when the facts overwhelmingly back up that assumption.
I feel the same about anyone who comes in and vanishes, also illegal and should be deported immediately.

Again you're assuming. Given what the majority of these people are escaping from it's not surprising they'll use any method of entry. As for willingness to "break the law" that's probably the least if their concerns.

It's not an assumption. The stats are there, we can see that men from certain countries are many times more likely to commit violent and sexual offenses against women and children. I'd question why any woman wouldn't be concerned - it's honestly throwing our own safety under a bus in order to maintain a particular ideology.

It’s not even necessarily intentional crime possibly one born out out of difference in culture, understanding the laws and values here.

We need to put a stop to all of this illegal immigration before it is too late.
What are Labour doing? Nothing at all.

I’m starting to think we’re wasting our time here.