To now be increasingly concerned about illegal boat arrivals

[CalmShaker]

I've kept a level head with boat crossing arrivals but recently I've become concerned that there are some really unpleasant people being let in. This story was hard to watch on the news this evening;

Asylum seeker 'murdered hotel worker Rhiannon Whyte in frenzied attack' - BBC News https://share.google/qxzed2MD19TYPKasQ

I welcome genuine asylum but I don't believe that is what is happening anymore.
The story immediately before the above on national news this evening was the migrant who had threatened Nigel Farrage. I know Nigel is not the most popular of people but the migrant was horrid, clearly dangerous and not safe to be on our streets.
Financial cost and all other factors aside, it's the safety aspect that worry me most.

Agree I don’t see how speeding up everything will help. More will be drawn to our easier system.

What do you propose instead?

Quicker processing can also mean they get deported quicker too, rather than hanging about and committing these atrocious crimes.

Totally agree. This is a bigger threat to women than trans, and I'm GC too. Crazy that liberal lefty women can't see it.

So glad there's people here who are pushing back against all the gaslighting.

How do you know who would commit a crime?

Anyone entering the country illegally or seeking asylum should be held in a detention centre until their claim is processed, until they work about their true identity or as close as possible.
Alongside a mental health assessment.
Crazy that people can arrive balding with grey claiming to be under 18, they should be finger printed, photographs, with the information in a European data base, those who aren't successful in their claim need to be deported, not a deportation order issued without any follow up.
Actually deported.
I downloaded tiktok again, deleted it months ago, I noticed an increase in influencer females promoting converting to Islam, strange.

I don’t - but there are plenty of UK nationals committing crime every day. I’m not sure where you’re going with this.

Why would faster processing help if you can’t vet?

It’s just a higher number coming in more quickly who are not vetted.

Mental health assessments would be helpful.
The current Mental health services in Ireland are poor, similar to the UK, the minium basics if you are lucky.

But part of the issue is when they’re just hanging around doing nothing; unprocessed. The vetting is an issue as I do not know how you vet someone with no documents or records. That perpetrator in crime above said they were 19 but they sure as hell do not look 19.

Agreed.

I think we need to make the system far less attractive so that only those with a genuine fear for their lives would bother. Honestly Rwanda was probably the right idea, but Labour quickly shelved that.
The Australians don't let anyone onshore, rightly.

And proper age testing, and burden of proof on the asylum seeker. But definitely no access to UK soil.

There needs to be more infrastructure but the problem is we already have limited mental health support for our country alone. I think we need to limit / control the amount of people coming in and what they get access to.

I agree. We need a similar system to Aus. It needs to be stricter. I get annoyed because I don’t feel the UK gov are being strict or serious enough about this. What happened to Rhiannon is horrendous and should never have been able to happen in the first place.

Then I agree with you and @SpaceRaccoonStarmer got it wrong when he scrapped the deterrent and we should have an Aus style system.

If this carries on for the next 4 years, which seems likely, things are going to get very ugly, and that doesn't need to happen if the govt can get a grip now.

I agree. And as a side note I am horrified that a hotel full of single men (who basically could be anyone) are being "supervised" by just a couple of female hotel receptionists. I assumed asylum hotels would have security guards as a basic minimum.

Yes, I found this very alarming.

But there those pushing the agenda that these are all the most decent of men fleeing for their lives. There was also a poster on here a while back who said that the odd murder/rape was worth it in the grand scheme of giving refuge to these men.

Funnily (or not very funnily) the French police have said they are scared of the migrants and are very wary of apprehending them. All good to let them come here then! 🤨

So importing more men is the answer? VAWG is at an all time high and the prisons are full to bursting. How can letting a shed load of unknown men into the country possibly help. Women will be the losers, as always.

And this is sort of why the whole migrant fiasco annoys me.

There are so many good, genuine, law-abiding people who are more deserving of citizenship. Yet we seem to constantly be letting in criminals. Criminals who weren’t even destitute in their home country, clearly, because they paid the 10 grand to get here.

I am so sick of hearing about these stories. At what point do we acknowledge that this isn’t just algorithms and evil reform, but something is truly wrong here?

I am so sad about it all.

All those lives lost.

And still the left are trying to shut down conversation.

On a site designed for women it’s even worse.

#Bekindatallcost
#Andbelieveyouresuperiortothesocalledfarright

Some of the asylum seekers are literally criminals, fleeing the law in their own countries. Yet we have a system that takes everything at face value. When did we become so soft and pathetic?

Exactly. The rhetoric that asylum seekers are automatically the most decent of men because they themselves have suffered is ridiculous and dangerous, especially for women. History informs us that men do not become pillars of altruism because they have personally known fear or harm. And that's assuming that most of these men have anyway. A high percentage of them are economic migrants. They are not fleeing for their very lives from France.

I just heard on the news Rhiannon’s sister talking about telling the five year old son. Heartbreaking.

That's truly heartbreaking, poor child, his mother just trying to earn a wage.

I remember the case of barnaby and grace, absolutely heartbreaking, the thought of them trying to save each other.
I know he wasn't an Illegal guy as such.
Life is precious.

Why would you want any more criminals here?