To now be increasingly concerned about illegal boat arrivals

[CalmShaker]

I've kept a level head with boat crossing arrivals but recently I've become concerned that there are some really unpleasant people being let in. This story was hard to watch on the news this evening;

Asylum seeker 'murdered hotel worker Rhiannon Whyte in frenzied attack' - BBC News https://share.google/qxzed2MD19TYPKasQ

I welcome genuine asylum but I don't believe that is what is happening anymore.
The story immediately before the above on national news this evening was the migrant who had threatened Nigel Farrage. I know Nigel is not the most popular of people but the migrant was horrid, clearly dangerous and not safe to be on our streets.
Financial cost and all other factors aside, it's the safety aspect that worry me most.

Totally agree.
They want to import a peasant class to wipe their asses in old age, pick their strawberries, do their gardening, sweep their streets and clean their homes and have the audacity to say anyone who wants checks and limits on immigration are the racist ones! You couldn't make it up.

Another one

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15211583/amp/Asylum-seeker-arrested-alleged-sex-assault-ten-year-old-girl-near-Dublin-asylum-centre.html

The same people who want to import a new underclass are also very keen on knee-taking and vocal about the evils of slavery and the exploitation and degradation of the African-American population in years gone by. But they'd quite willingly have people from the Third World in the fields for twelve hours a day here, living in bunkhouses and earning a pittance. Slaughtering animals, dealing with our literal shit. I find it mind-boggling.

My friend always says she wants to ask the various governments and the left who keep shouting for more of this just how many murders/ rapes/ sexual assaults etc are acceptable.

She says she’d like a number of how many victims are acceptable in the name of ‘inclusivity’ and ‘kindness’.

Their preference would be no one talks about it all. But they won’t answer.

I mean the pro asylum lot on here never respond when I post yet another article about a woman or girl being raped, assaulted or murdered. They’re shielded by money - they live in nice streets, their kids won’t be vulnerable to grooming or opportunistic predators. They’re absolutely despicable

Yep.

Nothing to see here.

Until they will be. Vulnerable I mean.

A 17 year old (she had just turned 17 the week before) German girl who came from a ‘good family background’ was stabbed with her boyfriend on a train in 2023.

By a Palestinian who shouldn’t even have been in the country anymore.

They'll say that British men rape and murder too, and that we're most in danger from men we know.
Where that argument falls flat is why we'd then want more dangerous men on top of that?
Oh and we're racist for noticing.

I know, the stupidity is mind blowing.

The German girl I was talking about was called Ann-Marie Kyrath and her father has become a very outspoken critic of our government’s failed asylum policy.

And he is so dignified when he speaks. He said his wife is in therapy, but speaking out and trying to prevent further deaths is his way of coping with it.

Not that it’s helping much as the new coalition is still very much operating an open door policy.

If you’re in Germany @sunflower1022and @EmeraldShamrock000is in Ireland it just shows how much gaslighting there is from politicians. We get a lot about being in the EU would fix it when it clearly is an issue for EU countries still.

Just generally the amount of excuses are madness.

He sounds very brave btw and her story is so sad. All of these stories are heartbreaking.

@sunflower1022 you know I hadn't even heard of that case. It's horrifying, they should have been safe. What's blown my mind is this:

"From September 2015 to January 2021, there had been 24 preliminary and criminal proceedings against Ibrahim A. The charges listed included theft, fraud, dangerous bodily harm, drugs, sexual harassment, damage to property, child abuse, rape of persons unfit to resist, driving without a license, and trespassing."

Yet he was allowed to stay. And that's the norm, not the exception. Stay in a country whose legal system was designed when the country was a low-crime, largely agrarian, monoculture society, so they do this heinous shit and get derisory sentences, and people wind up dead, and nothing gets done, and rinse and repeat.

I see this man got life in prison but it's too late for the murdered couple. His motivation, allegedly "Anger and frustration at his personal situation". Yeah sure - we all get hugely frustrated at our personal situations, at times - most of us don't go and stab strangers.

Well we could say that about anyone couldn’t we? Transwomen, men on day release or parole, sex offenders who have managed to work in schools and gain access to their victims. Let’s just remove all safeguarding and filtering because ‘men rape’. 🙄

I actually live in the UK now @EasternStandard (my husband is British) but your point stands nonetheless.

And do you know what’s really infuriating/ frightening? The fact that Ann-Marie’s father said once he’d gained a bit of ‘fame’ for speaking out, he received messages from 300 (!!!) parents who had suffered the same fate (some of them never even made the news.

And no, being in the EU would not fix this either.

Look at Meloni. When she was trying to return criminal migrants she was overruled by the Supreme Court in Rome (if I remember correctly).

I am so, so sick of all this shit and the stupid blasé first answer to the OP just shows what a mess we’re in.

I know @SpaceRaccoon …it makes me so upset and angry and sometimes when I see the stupid responses on here I have to sit on my hands because if I were to say what I want to say all hell would break loose.

Where are all the deniers and apologists?

Too busy sighing and yawning?

Go on, tell us what you think.

Tell us why letting hordes of undocumented males into the country is a good thing. Especially for women and girls. When everyone on Mumsnet is supposedly a Feminist.

Please tell us.

And no, I don’t want to hear more of the ‘They’re not all like that, most are hard working and want to integrate’ bull.

I want to hear what you would say to people like Ann-Marie’s father.

Too bad? How could we have known?

You are all complicit in this.

Yes those bl….dy fireworks

do they not have to go to work like the rest of us?

Yes quite, agreed, apparently we have boat loads of NHS doctors and nurses arriving every day. People desperate to pay taxes in the UK and work 60 hour weeks. Insanity and delusion.

Ah yes…the German government peddled that lie back in the day …Doctors and badly needed professionals arriving.

Meanwhile public pools have been closing in Germany due to no end of hassle over the past few years.

But of course it’s not true and we’re all racists/ bigots/ fascists.

I see it’s kicking off in Dublin.

Oh dear, what’s happening in Dublin?

There have been several cases in Germany where serious crimes were committed by rejected asylum seekers who shouldn’t have been in the country at the time of their crime.

One particular example I remember was in Solingen in summer 2024, where a Syrian national whose asylum claim had been rejected absconded on the scheduled day of his deportation to Bulgaria and later carried out a stabbing that killed three people and injured eight others.

This

I hate Farage. But I'm so sick of women being put in danger from males that see us as subhuman.

Enough is enough.

I remember the doctors and engineers line.
I think it was really unnecessary and did more harm than good.
Had the government just said “We think it’s our duty to help those people, we have the capacity to do that (Merkel’s famous “wir schaffen das”), it would have been at least more or less honest.
Why claim that large numbers of them were badly needed experts?
Now, after ten years only about 64% of the working age refugees who came in 2015 are in employment (full-time, part-time, marginal, self-employed, or training-based work).