To now be increasingly concerned about illegal boat arrivals

[CalmShaker]

I've kept a level head with boat crossing arrivals but recently I've become concerned that there are some really unpleasant people being let in. This story was hard to watch on the news this evening;

Asylum seeker 'murdered hotel worker Rhiannon Whyte in frenzied attack' - BBC News https://share.google/qxzed2MD19TYPKasQ

I welcome genuine asylum but I don't believe that is what is happening anymore.
The story immediately before the above on national news this evening was the migrant who had threatened Nigel Farrage. I know Nigel is not the most popular of people but the migrant was horrid, clearly dangerous and not safe to be on our streets.
Financial cost and all other factors aside, it's the safety aspect that worry me most.

Ok.
I’d like your house then, please.

Vice versa

So you see how nonsensical it is to pretend we don’t need borders and security?

Because the reason all these people are stuck in hotels, living off the state, unable to work, commiting crimes is that the processing system we have isn't fit for purpose.

It's the "system's" fault that people are forced to commit crimes?

Have word with yourself.

It’s particularly galling when you look at how over represented asylum seekers are in the sex crime statistics.
Sweden and Germany record these stats and have very clear and reliable data we can extrapolate.

What I take issue with is that people are made to commit crimes by being "stuck" in hotels and being f"orced to live off the state".

Really?

Nah, borders invented by people ...un-invented by people . The will just isn't there though . The worlds population has been sleepwalked into accepting this as the status quo.

Oh grow up, are you a sixth form politician?

Do you always speak in riddles?

I would hazard a guess at 69 I am a lot older than you but really age has nothing to do with it...maybe a greater tolerance of my fellow humans has .

It’s not just here, women in more educated societies are having fewer dc. Great less stigma for them, plus we probably won’t need as many people entering the workforce in 18 years.

Ha,ha...sorry if you aren't able to understand

You tolerate men gang raping women in order to grant them their ‘right’ to live here?

I don’t think they want it reported at all.

I sometimes wonder if the culture of keeping men & women separate has a lot to answer for.

Do you really believe having net migration over 16 times the net birthrate is going to be the solution for a harmonious future?

Like Corbyn they see these things as a bit embarrassing and would happily cover it all up to promote their agenda of endless immigration.

What, this word salad?

Nah, borders invented by people ...un-invented by people . The will just isn't there though . The worlds population has been sleepwalked into accepting this as the status quo.

OP men kill 2 women a week in this country. Mostly they are related to them. Are you going to kick all the men you know out the country too?

There are very clear, well researched links between marginalisation, poverty, inactivity, trauma and crime. Obviously people are accountable for their own actions but you cannot have a system that's unfit for purpose the way our home office system is and not expect these social consequences.

This.

And they're uneducated.
And single men.

And ultimately, of a different religion, but more worryingly, culturally extremely different in their attitude towards women than us.

This is such an illogical and boring argument.

So because we have male violence problems already we should add to it welcoming in even more misogynistic men?

I don't think anyone is suggesting any type of rape should be "tolerated", I think it's very unfair to dismiss posters who differ in opinion or who are concerned about upholding basic human rights and our commitment to the UNHRC as being rape apologists or in any way tolerant of rape - to me those two things are quite seperate. That's the equivalent of saying that if I don't agree with the death penalty then I MUST be pro-murder or think that murder is okay. I can recognise that someone has done terrible things and still think they have an entitlement to basic human rights and have concerns about how the stripping back of those rights could affect me or people I care about.

You and I also have the right to seek asylum - by luck we've never had to use it but if the UK went to shit tomorrow and we had to flee, we'd have the right to do so in order to keep our families safe. That's a massive thing to take away from someone. And we know there are good reasons why many asylum seekers are completely unable to use 'proper' channels because these are highly inaccessible - ironically to those who are most in need.

There are clear issues with integration and the processing system and working on that that should be our first step to trying to resolve the issues around immigration before we jump to revoking human rights and leaving vulnerable people in situations where they could be raped/murdered/tortured. I understand there are limitations to what we can do, but I also think we are part of a global population.

Quieten down. Statistically she had more chance of being raped by someone she knew. It’s there in the first response on page 1.
These rapists were forced to rape someone because their claims were not being processed quick enough. They were bored.

And we can’t send the boats back because of Brexit, because of Farage. The boats problem is an issue he helped cause. Before Brexit we could send them back.

While Farage still hasn’t explained how the house in Clacton was bought, why his closest advisors are accepting bribes from Russia. Why Farage the traitor has been to the US and asking them to apply tariffs to us because he claims we don’t have free speech and thinks Andrew Tate is a stand-up guy. All the things I mentioned the media is generally ignoring but going on and on about the boats as if that would solve all our problems, instead of taxing the super rich and instead squeezing the middle all so the rich can hoard their money with the rest of us fighting over the remaining resources.

Go look at garyseconomics on instagram.

The number of food banks in 1990 was negligible and today (thanks to 14 years of Tory austerity) over 2000 food banks. And the wealth of billionaires since 1990 has more than tripled. Those billionaires earned that money from the backs of working people, from zero hour contracts, wage stagnation, tax avoidance.