To now be increasingly concerned about illegal boat arrivals

[CalmShaker]

I've kept a level head with boat crossing arrivals but recently I've become concerned that there are some really unpleasant people being let in. This story was hard to watch on the news this evening;

Asylum seeker 'murdered hotel worker Rhiannon Whyte in frenzied attack' - BBC News https://share.google/qxzed2MD19TYPKasQ

I welcome genuine asylum but I don't believe that is what is happening anymore.
The story immediately before the above on national news this evening was the migrant who had threatened Nigel Farrage. I know Nigel is not the most popular of people but the migrant was horrid, clearly dangerous and not safe to be on our streets.
Financial cost and all other factors aside, it's the safety aspect that worry me most.

I think we all know that homelessness is often a symptom of trauma, drug or alcohol dependency and/ir mental illness. So that’s where we are meant to have mental health support and access to rehabilitation services. We don’t of course as there is no fucking money.

Also I’d like our government to look at the European countries that actually have a population of people that are happy with services and feel valued and positive. Hopeful even, and try and use that country as a model. Stop acting like we are a powerful nation of entrepreneurs and business moguls when we are not. I’m thinking of the Netherlands and Sweden, Switzerland maybe although I know Switzerland is incredibly expensive and has mountains. Lets stop trying to wave our balls on the world stage and accept that time is gone and focus on trying to let our citizens find some happiness.

You are more likely to be murdered by a man you know such as a relative purely because you know them. I am not worried about being killed by any of my male relatives or friends.

These are where stats are manipulated by all sides to suit their narrative. The immediate defence of women writing this is peculiar. It’s writing we are killed by our own men anyway so what does it matter if we let more in.

Men are convicted of 98% of all violent crime, so why would I be delighted by loads more coming.

We do not choose the country or time we are born in. Of course the developed West is nicer and why wouldn’t you try and come here but from an economic viewpoint I’m really not interested in saving strangers.

Where would you cut spending?

Benefits bill. 1 in 8 of our young people not in education or employment.

Bring back face to face meetings for benefits. Its lazy to try and do by Zoom.

Putting boats around the UK and process the boats arrivals from there. No appeals, no chance of getting some women pregnant and then claiming a right to a family life.

Dont remove the 2 child cap

You can be convicted and deported now unless its proven to be too unsafe for deportation in which case you get an equal sentence to any other criminal in this country.

I predict this too. What a bloody travesty, we're going to be stuck with a 'every man for himself ' reform government and the dismantling of public services because the main stream parties have done f all to stem immigration. No one I know wants this but they have also reached the point of acceptance - we're far past simply being concerned.

Depends if you hang around with supporters of Reform, British National Party and the National Front. Enoch would be so proud.

I don't and none of my contacts harbour those sorts of belief regardless of class, colour or nationality.

Racism isn't universal despite what Nige and Steven YL want you to think.

It’s not racist to want control over your countries borders. It’s also not racist to recognise that this country can’t support the people who are born here let alone the ones arriving daily. Services are probably the worst they’ve ever been, people can’t make doctors appointments, access a NHS dentist, housing is non existent, schools have large numbers of pupils in their classes and are underfunded, social care is scarce, jobs are being lost, the list goes on. Until we are in a position to support our own citizens we shouldn’t be taking anyone else, how much of the millions spent on holding immigrants daily could be put to better use?

It varies by area, but being homeless is not it itself enough to qualify for housing. Some local councils go above and beyond the legal minimum, but the legal minimim only offers certain people accommodation (eg. elderly, disabled, children in the family).

Correct. And to get long term housing (flat/studio/bedsit etc) the client usually has to be engaging with a drug/alcohol/both rehabilitation program. So many people are unwilling to start one or incapable of seeing it through, they simply don't qualify for housing. There isn't enough support for them, so it's a vicious cycle.

How on earth do you ‘hang around with supporters of Reform and the BNP’ 🤣. Do you think posters in this thread are out on the marches or part of the dark web exchanging radical far right views with skinheads? Grow up. Personally I’m having very normal conversations with colleagues and associates who are telling me they are going to vote Reform and I am doing my best to suggest they vote Conservative instead.

Oh thank God for that I thought she had died.
Glad she is ok and getting on with life.

For a ludicrous post you get 10/10.

Reform are surging in the polls because millions of ordinary people are tired of our spineless politicians letting this country be abused.

And activist lawyers defending rapists and criminals, safe in the knowledge that it won't be their neighbourhood they end up living in. People are done with this.

What on earth are you talking about? I know many people and there is a real mix of voting behaviour. I wa brought up with a Labour loving Dad. Mum was a light Conservative. I couldnt vote for Nigel Farage but I dont dismiss his popularity. He is a brilliant speaker. He doesnt have to deliver anything as yet but looking at Labour - they have years to sort out a plan and it looks like they did NOTHING to plan for being in power.

Reeves is a embarassment and you can never tax your way to growth. NEVER!

Agreed. It’s the working classes who are the human shields in this madness. So of course the middle classes are ‘tolerant’ and ‘can’t get worked up’ about it,

It’s really something that the crime is repeatedly downplayed just because of the criminal.

From today’s news:

Giving evidence today, her colleague at the hotel, Claire Taylor-Bevans, described how the defendant had been staring in an 'intimidating' manner at staff, including Ms Whyte, in the hours before the attack. Later in the evening, she claimed the same man who had been staring at them barged into Ms Whyte as he walked past them out of the hotel, prompting Ms Whyte to remark: 'What the f*?'

The man alleged to be the defendant can be seen walking past them in the opposite direction and bumping shoulders with Ms Whyte, who can be seen reacting in indignation. It came just one day after Ms Whyte had a confrontation with another migrant, the trial heard. The hotel chef, Louise Brittle, told the court about an incident the night before the attack, when Ms Whyte had been reduced to tears after being verbally abused by a separate asylum seeker living at the hotel.

The other migrant, who was not named in court, was said to have called Ms Whyte a 'fing b*' after she had served him biscuits he did not like.

’He threw his biscuits back at her and swore at her,' Ms Brittle said. She said she later found Ms Whyte outside the hotel, shocked and upset.

These men sound utterly fucking awful and how anyone can claim they’re ’vulnerable’ as they treat women like dirt on their shoe is beyond me.

Totally. It's so easy for the virtue signallers to think it's all about misinformation, Russian bots, dog whistles and thicko racist knuckle-draggers.

Yes. I want to force them to read the article above and then tell me it’s these men who are not the misogynistic knuckle draggers and worse. How fucking dare they speak to this lady in that way, while being provided with free everything from OUR country.

They despise our weakness. We're viewed as total mugs and they're taking advantage.

A partial solution would be to speed up the decision-making process for asylum claims. That would at least mean that those whose claims were found to be false could be removed more quickly.

Another would be to make it possible for people to apply for asylum status from outside the UK, then they wouldn't need be physically present in the UK at all.

A third would be to rejoin the EU and have the UK's Dublin agreement rights restored, but that's not likely to happen any time soon. Anyone who voted for Brexit has contributed to the issue and has no right to moan imo.

The Dublin Agreement was such small numbers it really did little on this. It’s why ROI, Germany and others who are not first country of entry can’t use it to resolve issues either.

The other two come up a lot but demand would be too high for the outside U.K. and faster processing making that even higher.

Do you think it's just a coincidence that the numbers of asylum seekers arriving by small boats has shot up is just a coincidence then?

I think it may well have been a deterrent.