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Feel absolutely awful after encounter on train

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SoberOctober2025 · 14/10/2025 14:45

I feel awful, and I don’t know if I was or was not being unreasonable. I’ve had to travel by train today. I got on the first train and it was unallocated seating. Sat at an empty table with 2 seats either side. Plugged my phone in, took my coat off, got comfy.

Right before we were due to depart a large lady came huffing down the aisle. I only say this as I heard her the moment she entered the carriage. She stopped at my table and decided to sit opposite me. I smiled and went back to my phone. She was incredibly overweight to the point she had to really push herself in between the table and the seats and took up both empty seats across from me. She was sweating profusely, really out of breath and huffing and puffing, took out an inhaler and was gulping water. She was breathing really heavily on me and dribbling water on the table.

Not the most comfortable situation but whatever, fine. Then I started to get a smell. Can’t describe it really, BO but so much worse. I took out and ate an orange, spritzed some perfume on my collar hoping that would cover the smell. Didn’t work and after 15mins I decided I had to move. I got up and started getting my coat and bag and she said ‘Where are you going?’. I said ‘sorry?’, kinda shocked that I was being asked, and she repeated. I said I just realised I was in the wrong seat. She said that’s bullshit, there’s no seats, I’m a terrible liar and I obviously have an issue with fat people. I said I would feel more comfortable sitting elsewhere and she called me a body shaming bitch as I was walking away. Everyone heard and it was quite embarrassing.

Was I unreasonable here? Could I have dealt with this better? I feel bad that I made her feel bad, but she was also really rude to me.

OP posts:
AbbeyGrange · 14/10/2025 16:40

Redpeach · 14/10/2025 16:34

What like someone starting a thread about smelly fat people?

You're the one who told the OP had she had a cheek to sit on the train with a table, I mean how very dare she, like I say some people love a fucking argument....

WearyAuldWumman · 14/10/2025 16:41

TeddySchnauzer · 14/10/2025 16:38

“Today, a person got on the train huffing & puffing and sweating profusely. She sat on my table and dribbled water from her bottle which reached the table and she smelt a bit of BO. Was I Unreasonable for moving?”

  1. The above wouldn’t have bothered you in the slightest had it all been done by a non-overweight individual.
  2. See how easy it was to post this very same question without fat shaming anyone?

The reference to the other woman's size is relevant, however, because the other woman blamed the move on fat phobia.

MaurineWayBack · 14/10/2025 16:42

SoberOctober2025 · 14/10/2025 16:19

Erm no, she didn’t just spill water on the table, that would be a non issue. She was guzzling water for a number of minutes from a 2l bottle, trying to catch her breath and it was dribbling down her chin and onto the table, as well as drops spraying due to the heavy breathing. If she had spilled the water, I would have said so. It was dribbling out of her mouth.

So basically she was unwell…..
Because healthy people don’t normally gulp loads of water whilst dribbling.

SoberOctober2025 · 14/10/2025 16:45

logplant · 14/10/2025 16:35

Given how you have written your post and sprayed perfume to disguise the smell I’m guessing you were looking at her with disgust - your post drips with it, I’m sure she knew exactly what you were feeling.

Incorrect, I smiled directly at her when she joined my table and then had my face in my phone.

OP posts:
Didimum · 14/10/2025 16:46

WearyAuldWumman · 14/10/2025 16:41

The reference to the other woman's size is relevant, however, because the other woman blamed the move on fat phobia.

It's of no relevance at all whether the woman was overweight or not. How is it relevant?

The woman blaming OP moving due to body shaming did not require paragraphs of visceral descriptions of someone's body or actions.

SoberOctober2025 · 14/10/2025 16:47

TeddySchnauzer · 14/10/2025 16:38

“Today, a person got on the train huffing & puffing and sweating profusely. She sat on my table and dribbled water from her bottle which reached the table and she smelt a bit of BO. Was I Unreasonable for moving?”

  1. The above wouldn’t have bothered you in the slightest had it all been done by a non-overweight individual.
  2. See how easy it was to post this very same question without fat shaming anyone?

Except for the fact that she told me I obviously have an issue with fat people and said in a voice loud enough for surrounding people to all hear that I was a body shaming bitch, which was the entire crux of my post.

OP posts:
TWANBW · 14/10/2025 16:48

Productiveam · 14/10/2025 15:00

45 mins until the next stop???!!! What line is this?!

If you travel from Kings Cross to Edinburgh sometimes York is the first stop and that's an hour and 50 minutes. Although to be fair that's unlikely not to be allocated seating.

SoberOctober2025 · 14/10/2025 16:49

Have finally reached my destination, this thread has been a much wilder ride though 😂

OP posts:
WearyAuldWumman · 14/10/2025 16:49

Didimum · 14/10/2025 16:46

It's of no relevance at all whether the woman was overweight or not. How is it relevant?

The woman blaming OP moving due to body shaming did not require paragraphs of visceral descriptions of someone's body or actions.

Of course it's relevant when the other woman claimed that that was the reason fro moving.

If the woman had had grey hair and the other woman had complained that the OP was shaming her for having grey hair, then a reference to grey hair would have been relevant.

Didimum · 14/10/2025 16:51

SoberOctober2025 · 14/10/2025 16:47

Except for the fact that she told me I obviously have an issue with fat people and said in a voice loud enough for surrounding people to all hear that I was a body shaming bitch, which was the entire crux of my post.

No, because her accusing you of body shaming has no relevance to how you actually described her (for a very lengthy paragraph).

*Someone sat next to me on the train who smelled so badly, I couldn't tolerate it so I moved. She accused me of body shaming her when I actually just couldn't sit in the smell. Was she BU or was I?

See – simple.

TWANBW · 14/10/2025 16:52

TeddySchnauzer · 14/10/2025 16:38

“Today, a person got on the train huffing & puffing and sweating profusely. She sat on my table and dribbled water from her bottle which reached the table and she smelt a bit of BO. Was I Unreasonable for moving?”

  1. The above wouldn’t have bothered you in the slightest had it all been done by a non-overweight individual.
  2. See how easy it was to post this very same question without fat shaming anyone?

I wouldn't have particularly wanted to sit next to Twiggy or Kate Moss if they were dribbling everywhere and stinking of BO.

LemonJellyLegs · 14/10/2025 16:52

I would have said
'I have sensory issues.' Are you being disablist??

SoberOctober2025 · 14/10/2025 16:55

Didimum · 14/10/2025 16:51

No, because her accusing you of body shaming has no relevance to how you actually described her (for a very lengthy paragraph).

*Someone sat next to me on the train who smelled so badly, I couldn't tolerate it so I moved. She accused me of body shaming her when I actually just couldn't sit in the smell. Was she BU or was I?

See – simple.

And you don’t think there would have been numerous posters asking whether or not she was in fact overweight?

I do think the description of what happened is relevant because it shows that I didn’t actually move as a result of weight related issues such as the panting, dribbling and spraying water, and breasts and stomach being on the table. None of that bothered me until the smell hit me. Which I believe goes to show that I actually am not a body shaming bitch as I was loudly accused of being!

OP posts:
ruethewhirl · 14/10/2025 16:58

YANBU. You were entitled to move, and she made the choice to turn it into a thing. It sounds like her life is pretty difficult, but she didn't need to make it even harder by trying to pick an argument with a stranger.

LemonJellyLegs · 14/10/2025 16:58

Actually, the best thing to say to someone when they ask you something you don't want to answer is "Why do you want to know?" Then THEY have to justify what they said to YOU.
Try it. Its a winner!

tsmainsqueeze · 14/10/2025 17:02

I don't blame you , i would have moved away too and quickly if someone sat by me smelling of shit , actually the dribbling water would have been enough for me alone.
She was the rude one.

Kattley · 14/10/2025 17:04

SoberOctober2025 · 14/10/2025 16:55

And you don’t think there would have been numerous posters asking whether or not she was in fact overweight?

I do think the description of what happened is relevant because it shows that I didn’t actually move as a result of weight related issues such as the panting, dribbling and spraying water, and breasts and stomach being on the table. None of that bothered me until the smell hit me. Which I believe goes to show that I actually am not a body shaming bitch as I was loudly accused of being!

Your embellishments to sex up your story are very unpleasant. Stomach AND breasts on the table?

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Rumpledandcrumpled · 14/10/2025 17:06

SoberOctober2025 · 14/10/2025 16:55

And you don’t think there would have been numerous posters asking whether or not she was in fact overweight?

I do think the description of what happened is relevant because it shows that I didn’t actually move as a result of weight related issues such as the panting, dribbling and spraying water, and breasts and stomach being on the table. None of that bothered me until the smell hit me. Which I believe goes to show that I actually am not a body shaming bitch as I was loudly accused of being!

That’s a bit much op, and I can see why the other posters are reacting as they are.

Didimum · 14/10/2025 17:06

WearyAuldWumman · 14/10/2025 16:49

Of course it's relevant when the other woman claimed that that was the reason fro moving.

If the woman had had grey hair and the other woman had complained that the OP was shaming her for having grey hair, then a reference to grey hair would have been relevant.

Just because something is true doesn’t mean it’s relevant.

The OP claims she moved because of a smell, not because of the woman's body size. Unless OP's discomfort was somehow caused by the woman's size (for example, if seating space were involved), her weight doesn’t explain or justify the action. It’s unnecessary to the point being made.

The woman accused OP of body shaming after she moved seats, the relevant question is what actually motivated OP to move — not what the woman's body looked like. Including details about the woman's weight isn’t necessary to refute the accusation. The OP can deny body shaming by explaining her reason without invoking physical descriptions.

Vaxtable · 14/10/2025 17:06

As she was so rude I would have just retorted back that actually it’s nothing to do with your weight, it’s to do with your BO. I have tried to spray perfume but it’s not cutting it and I can’t sit near you

HmmOdd · 14/10/2025 17:07

Hopefully that lady will think twice and starting eating more DSalad

/s

HectorPlasm · 14/10/2025 17:10

You could've said anything you want in response to that rudeness. It's not like she could've run after you to remonstrate.

Didimum · 14/10/2025 17:11

SoberOctober2025 · 14/10/2025 16:55

And you don’t think there would have been numerous posters asking whether or not she was in fact overweight?

I do think the description of what happened is relevant because it shows that I didn’t actually move as a result of weight related issues such as the panting, dribbling and spraying water, and breasts and stomach being on the table. None of that bothered me until the smell hit me. Which I believe goes to show that I actually am not a body shaming bitch as I was loudly accused of being!

And you don’t think there would have been numerous posters asking whether or not she was in fact overweight?

Who cares if they did? You can't retrospectively blame imaginary commentary before it's written. And it would have been irrelevant anyway.

If none of the above bothered you, then why are you mentioning it? 'What happened' is you moved because of a smell – that should be it. Why are you describing anything else.

the panting, dribbling and spraying water, and breasts and stomach being on the table.

Every time you post, you just reveal yourself to be more and more awful, OP. Give it up.

SoberOctober2025 · 14/10/2025 17:12

Kattley · 14/10/2025 17:04

Your embellishments to sex up your story are very unpleasant. Stomach AND breasts on the table?

They are not embellishments, completely factual, both stomach and breasts were on the table.

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