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I hate my DSD

558 replies

8842688l · 13/10/2025 21:32

There I said it. Got it off my chest

shes a horrible, manipulative, spiteful girl who treats everybody like shit.

nothing more to say just needed to get it off my chest.

OP posts:
HashtagSadTimes · 14/10/2025 10:54

samplesalequeen · 14/10/2025 09:28

How long should someone put up with an adolescent who knows right from wrong destroying their family life?

your psycho babble post suggests the OP should just continue to endure lies and turmoil.

Oh yes "psychobabble" as the sneering dismissal.

It is interesting that you position the child as someone from whom the OP must rescue her family. Whilst I might agree that OP and the stepdaughter shouldn't be living together, I wouldn't be prepared to let OP see herself as white as the driven snow here. And if I was to mirror your sneering I would ask who needs to be saved from whom, in reality.

She agreed for SD to live with them. Implicit in that is that she understood the parental responsibilities and what they look like. OP has failed badly in living up to the duties and responsibilities that she undertook three years ago.
The reasons for that failure are actually pretty clear: In psychobabble OP has low insight into her own contribution to the dynamic, in everyday terms: OP is quite selfish and really likes things on her own terms.
The fact OP is seeing a therapist for 'trauma' and the SD isn't, can most kindly be met with a massive eyeroll. If I wanted to sneer my response would be "Wow, that's manipulating the narrative, isn't it."

Yes, the 15 year old is obviously very challenging, even 'good' and 'normal' ones are, but she still deserves to be loved, supported, understood, to be part of a family.

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 14/10/2025 10:55

8842688l · 14/10/2025 10:49

Yeah if you read through the thread, I actually just said I couldn’t care less about whether people think IABU or not. I just came to let off some steam

Then dont post on a forum designed explicitly to garnish people's opinions.

8842688l · 14/10/2025 10:55

Nanny0gg · 14/10/2025 10:50

Was she at all like this before you moved in together?

Yes, not quite so extreme

OP posts:
Dramatic · 14/10/2025 10:56

Glowingup · 14/10/2025 09:50

How do you mean unwanted by her dad? The fact that her dad remarried doesn’t make her unwanted and we have to get out of the narrative that parents owe it to their children to remain single forever. Your parents splitting up and you gaining half siblings is really not trauma or the worst thing that can happen to someone. Theres kids who survive wars and watch their family members be killed in front of them (ie real trauma) and they don’t turn out like this. Your dad having a new relationship with someone who made an effort and was kind to you really doesn’t come close.

Thank you, this is what I don't understand. People are acting like this child has had a full on life of trauma, it doesn't sound like that to me. And what right does that give her to go around trying to ruin everyone else's lives? None whatsoever.

8842688l · 14/10/2025 10:57

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 14/10/2025 10:55

Then dont post on a forum designed explicitly to garnish people's opinions.

You asked a question, I answered it.

I will do as I please, thanks for the advice though.

OP posts:
Nanny0gg · 14/10/2025 10:58

8842688l · 14/10/2025 10:55

Yes, not quite so extreme

So did you both have a plan as to how to help./deal with her?

Haemagoblin · 14/10/2025 10:59

IsItSnowing · 14/10/2025 09:10

So many people seem to want to excuse the unexcusable here. The OP isn't dealing with normal teenage antics by the sound of it. She's probably dealing with a narcissistic personality who will stop at nothing, including harming those around her to get what she wants.
We talk all the time about narcissists on mumsnet but they don't materialise out of thin air when they become mils. They develop that way as young people or may even be born that way, I don't know. But I do know they exist and they cause untold harm to those around them if given the opportunity.
It's too easy to blame bad parenting and sometimes that may be to blame. And environmental circumstances obviously contribute.
But some people are just bad ones and no amount of good parenting will alter that. You have my sympathy, OP. It sounds horrific.

Narcissists don't appear out of nowhere, no. They are usually the product of traumatic childhoods and unmet needs.

As adults they have to take responsibility for that; as children, the adults around them should do what they can to repair the damage they've done.

8842688l · 14/10/2025 10:59

Nanny0gg · 14/10/2025 10:58

So did you both have a plan as to how to help./deal with her?

Yes we have and we’ve been following it and tapping in to whatever help we can get
I don’t say this lightly, we have exhausted all strategies

OP posts:
Skirtingtheissue76 · 14/10/2025 11:01

TeaForTheTillermanSteakForTheSun · 14/10/2025 10:42

I'm with you op.

I absolutely hate my dps child. He is just an awful, selfish, nasty, manipulative, abusive little cunt.

I have decided not to live with dp because of his child, because he would never be welcome in my house.

I know it's easier said than done, but I would leave, it doesn't mean the end of the relationship, just means you're not living together for a while, this will probably do your dc a favour too, it sounds like a hellish way to live.

Wow. This thread gets worse.

Zempy · 14/10/2025 11:02

Well, if I felt like you, yes, I would move out and make a safe life with my DC that didn’t involve DSD.

However, won’t DH contact with your DC sometimes involve DSD? She’s their half sister so they are stuck with her to some extent?

Does DH understand you are leaving? What has he said?

Nanny0gg · 14/10/2025 11:02

8842688l · 14/10/2025 10:59

Yes we have and we’ve been following it and tapping in to whatever help we can get
I don’t say this lightly, we have exhausted all strategies

Does she ever have an explanation or an honest conversation about how she feels?

Did she want her father to remarry? What did she think when you were pregnant?

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 14/10/2025 11:04

Orpheya · 13/10/2025 22:33

all I can say is: Women of the UK stop going round taking any man that comes to you and has a need to live somewhere and brings you step children. I have not seen this is any other country

😂 ridiculous

TeaForTheTillermanSteakForTheSun · 14/10/2025 11:08

Skirtingtheissue76 · 14/10/2025 11:01

Wow. This thread gets worse.

He told everyone I was calling him the name of son, who died.

He burned my photo albums of my son.

He deliberately took covid into my home when I was recovering from a cancer op and treatment and laughed at the thought of me dying.

He broke into my home to steal my children's Christmas presents.

And much, much more. He got kicked out of 3 family members homes, including his mother's in the space of 2 months for similar behaviour, including calling his grandmother a paedophile.

I think I'm good with your judgement, thanks.

Allisnotlost1 · 14/10/2025 11:08

Off topic but is anyone else getting a banner ad that takes over the whole page, making it impossible to read the posts? I have to refresh and then it takes me back a couple of pages. I can’t even see what the ad is for so a waste of money for them!

8842688l · 14/10/2025 11:08

Zempy · 14/10/2025 11:02

Well, if I felt like you, yes, I would move out and make a safe life with my DC that didn’t involve DSD.

However, won’t DH contact with your DC sometimes involve DSD? She’s their half sister so they are stuck with her to some extent?

Does DH understand you are leaving? What has he said?

Yes and it’s largely a part of why I’ve not upped and gone yet
At least I can make sure DC are okay and safe/protected as much as they can be
He knows I’m unhappy and exploring options

OP posts:
awaynboilyurheid · 14/10/2025 11:09

Shocked at the lack of compassion on here for a young girl that’s going through so much , not living with her mother a step mother who hates her a dad whose had two more young children …
please get her some counselling this is a hard read.

CautiousLurker01 · 14/10/2025 11:10

8842688l · 14/10/2025 10:45

One brilliant thing that has come from this post is the thought of me and children moving to our own place but continuing relationship with DP. As I say I think he’s a wonderful parent and my children are lucky to have him, he’s kind and patient, he’s caring and really would go to the end of the earth for them. Win win, I can escape this hellhole while he sorts it out and my children get to see healthy ways of managing conflict from parents without having to see us break up.

Tbh, given that DSD could probably benefit from some 1-2-1 time with your DH and therapy, a move that gives them space is not a bad idea. I think people are quick to adopt the ‘poor child’ stance when, in fact, 15 yo can be manipulative and abusive too. It is very likely that she is ill, whether its an EUPD, trauma response, or the result of some other psychosocial issue can only be clarified by a professional and whilst she is unsupported and not receiving treatment I think you do have to put your younger children first. When my DD was at her worst (ASD/ADHD/suspected EuPD later discounted/suicidal ideation/ROGD) my DH and I explored separating too. We were investigated twice by social services - one of those was a 3 month 360 degree investigation where schools, doctors, counsellors etc were all interviewed, as were both our children. It was invasive and quite harrowing. We were stunned when it was repeated the second time, especially given the positive and affirming comments in the first report.

We didn’t separate in the end because we felt stronger together and because we are are both her parents (and that of her slightly younger brother), but had this been a step child and much younger children, I think we would have been pragmatic. We didn’t plan to divorce, just live separately and it sounds as though this is a wise and sensible option for you all.

It is difficult to find patience and mental resilience for your own children, let alone a child you are step-parenting. The well of emotional resources available to each person isn’t limitless and people who express shock and outrage often haven’t had to tackle it themselves. And woe betide anyone honestly expressing their anger and hate-like emotions when they hit the floor of that well.

@8842688l I know you haven’t posted to ask for advice or help, BUT I would explore you and DC’s moving out for a year or so [or DH can move out with DSD] - just a 2bed flat would do - and seek a referral to CAHMS explaining how DSD’s behaviour has caused the breakdown of the family and is negatively impacting your children (this is a safeguarding issue, so you can actually call social services yourself and ask for help because of the impact on them - we did this as it meant GPs and Camhs took us more seriously).

Hang in there. In terms of my own DD, she eventually did come out of the other side with the right therapist, the right medication, a change of tack from us. There is every chance DSD can too - but to continue doing what you are doing and expecting a different outcome is the definition of madness, as they say. You and DH - with the help of SS/CAMHS/GP - need to shake things up and prioritise other family members for a bit.

fireandlightening · 14/10/2025 11:11

While I'm sure your SD is likely going through her own trauma, the effects of her behavior on you and your children is just unacceptable, and if I were in your position, I would remove myself and my children from the scene. I find it hard to judge you (as many have jumped to do here) because in all honesty, if anyone (however old they were) subjected my children to any emotional or physical harm, I would go all out to protect them. Your SD appears to have caused all of you considerable distress. Just remove yourself from the situation. She is not your daughter, you can opt out, you know?!

slushgrey · 14/10/2025 11:12

8842688l · 14/10/2025 10:59

Yes we have and we’ve been following it and tapping in to whatever help we can get
I don’t say this lightly, we have exhausted all strategies

You'll have to leave OP. I don't know why you have not done so already, your kids need to be proteted from her as obviously, he's not going to choose to remove his child from his life. It is such a difficult thing for a truly decent parent to do - even if it is for the best of the everyone else.

I do not disbelieve you. Some people are quite stupid, or have tiny lives or have just been incredibly lucky and have no idea of the evil behaviour possible by others - yes, even sometimes by children. Remember Jamie Bulger? I will never forget.

There really is such a thing as an evil person. I knew one, once, nobody I had to live with. Thank God.

In the end, evil behaviour is evil behaviour - it doesn't matter why it only matters that they are dangerous.

The only protection from a wicked person is to remove yourself from them altogether. If I were you I'd move and make sure she could never ever find you or your children.

8842688l · 14/10/2025 11:13

HashtagSadTimes · 14/10/2025 10:54

Oh yes "psychobabble" as the sneering dismissal.

It is interesting that you position the child as someone from whom the OP must rescue her family. Whilst I might agree that OP and the stepdaughter shouldn't be living together, I wouldn't be prepared to let OP see herself as white as the driven snow here. And if I was to mirror your sneering I would ask who needs to be saved from whom, in reality.

She agreed for SD to live with them. Implicit in that is that she understood the parental responsibilities and what they look like. OP has failed badly in living up to the duties and responsibilities that she undertook three years ago.
The reasons for that failure are actually pretty clear: In psychobabble OP has low insight into her own contribution to the dynamic, in everyday terms: OP is quite selfish and really likes things on her own terms.
The fact OP is seeing a therapist for 'trauma' and the SD isn't, can most kindly be met with a massive eyeroll. If I wanted to sneer my response would be "Wow, that's manipulating the narrative, isn't it."

Yes, the 15 year old is obviously very challenging, even 'good' and 'normal' ones are, but she still deserves to be loved, supported, understood, to be part of a family.

Everyone goes to therapy, she has refused so what do you suggest?
I didn’t take on any duties or responsibilities, her father is her parents and she’s far too old to be “parented” by somebody else without it causing further issues. Mine and my DP agreement is he does the parenting and I took an aunt approach. Again you are writing a version of the story that’s incorrect based on few facts you know.

OP posts:
donthaveaname · 14/10/2025 11:14

I think you mentioned that it's your house OP... and that you only have DSD every other weekend...so... couldn't your DH just move out to a hotel every other weekend with DSD?

Seems like it would be a lot less disruption for everyone. It would be 26 weekends a year for 3 years until she's 18...

Glowingup · 14/10/2025 11:14

awaynboilyurheid · 14/10/2025 11:09

Shocked at the lack of compassion on here for a young girl that’s going through so much , not living with her mother a step mother who hates her a dad whose had two more young children …
please get her some counselling this is a hard read.

Is it really “going through so much”? Millions of children have separated parents and step parents. The OP didn’t hate her when she moved in - it’s a reaction to her behaviour. You must have lived a very sheltered life if you think this set up is the worst that could happen to someone and explains completely going off the rails.

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 14/10/2025 11:14

8842688l · 14/10/2025 10:57

You asked a question, I answered it.

I will do as I please, thanks for the advice though.

And that there is the exact attitude that is likely causing a lot of the issues because I would put money on this being the way you behave at home with this child too. My way or the highway.

Op you need to take responsibility for your part in this, stop looking at your DH/DP through rose tinted glasses and foisting all the blame on mum and a CHILD

You have made choices including marriage and having more children that have impacted this girl. She has had no say and then you demonise her for having feelings about it.

Sorry but honestly grow the hell up.

PersephonePomegranate · 14/10/2025 11:20

Sorry again, shite mother who sets no example. Parenting unfortunately takes two committed co parents to be effective. Doesn’t matter how strong of a parent one is, if the other is shit. Parenting isn’t consistent

So then why hitch your wagon to this shitshow and bring another two children into it. You could have found someone without this drama to settle down with.

Another blissful 'blended family' situation, I see.

I appreciate your angry but the tone of your replies speaks volumes.

nomas · 14/10/2025 11:22

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 14/10/2025 11:14

And that there is the exact attitude that is likely causing a lot of the issues because I would put money on this being the way you behave at home with this child too. My way or the highway.

Op you need to take responsibility for your part in this, stop looking at your DH/DP through rose tinted glasses and foisting all the blame on mum and a CHILD

You have made choices including marriage and having more children that have impacted this girl. She has had no say and then you demonise her for having feelings about it.

Sorry but honestly grow the hell up.

You goaded OP three times in your 3 posts below. Your posts added nothing, so where do get off telling anyone to grow up?

Then dont post on a forum designed explicitly to garnish people's opinions.

You posted on AIBU....

Then perhaps she shouldn't post on an Internet forum that exactly asks for people's opinions.