To go on holiday without kids?

[Toskiornottoskii]

I want to go skiing. Really as a family. Problem is DP doesn’t ski yet. Kids would be just turned 1 and just turned 4 in spring. So they would just be in ski crèche.

My latest idea is to do a 4 day midweek break. Leave the kids with grandparents. DP can learn how to ski.

This is potentially not the best for 1 yo. But would be heaven for the 4 year old.

If we wait until next year then we have reception/ school to contest with and I feel like we should be at home then as I don’t want grandparents having to get eldest to school.

Is this a bonkers idea?

Small children are fine as long as they're looked after, loved and with people who will care for them.

Being left with grandparents for a few days is absolutely not the big issue you're making it out to be.

That shows more about you DH than anything.

I haven't said it is a 'big issue' I have said I think going away for an extended period of time is selfish. I stand by that.

IDK because last time 4YO DS stayed with GPs he was enraged he only got to stay one night and told me to ‘go away and come back in 100 days’ 🤣

The whole point of this is TO facilitate family holidays (hopefully).

Fuck it. I’m doing it!

Where are we going?

I need short transfer, big enough to inspire, small enough for a beginner to cope. Good ski school. Picturesque classic town with light apres-ski

Bonus points for indoor/outdoor pool and sauna. 👌

Recommendations welcome 🤗

'I’m sorry your parents aren’t a good place for your kids, and you hated being with your grandparents.' Love the passive aggression.

Teens arranging to see their grandparents is not the same. My teen nephews love going round my parents. But OP is talking about a 1 year old and a 4 year old. I'm pretty sure most children this age would not prefer to be without their parents for 4 days.

Wow! Don't hold back, will you.

OP sounds reasonable to me. 4 days isn't long if dp and grandparents are up for it

It’s 4 days not 4 months, how will you cope when your children move out or to another city or country? Will you never babysit grandchildren? Will your children be selfish if they ask you to babysit?

It s four days. Do it. Accept is a taster for dh. Does he like outdoors walking etc? Unless he is eg a skateboarder already and snow boarding would be good switch. Go to a nice hotel and he can do snow shoeing if skis don't work out.

Why is it selfish for parents to take time for themselves, though?

And four days is hardly an "extended period of time", it's not even a full working week ffs.

You've gone from accepting 'This is potentially not the best for 1 yo' to 'Fuck it. I’m doing it!'

But PP think I'm a cunt for saying this is selfish. Ah well.

I've covered this upthread. I'm not in the process of repeating myself again.

I am judging you.

Note the part where is said 'small' children in my comments. Your questions do not apply.

Clearly very traumatised. 😂

When we came back from holiday, mine were clearly happy to see us but also happy as larry getting spoiled by Grandparents all week.

Do the grandparents want to look after the children for 4 days. It's very hard work looking after young children especially babies who might not settle well and be awake in the night. And often grandparents forget how hard it is. I am exhausted after my grandchildren stay for just one night.
What happens if they are sick?
Sorry but I think it is selfish, expensive and something if seems only you want.

I am excited for you!

So you think once you become a parent, your needs, wants and desires no longer matter?

Weird.

So you’ll never babysit your “small” grandchild and if your children ask you they’ll be selfish. Got it.

Evidently. You can't get on your high horse about judging when you are doing it yourself, that would be called hypocrisy.

I'd refer you to the other part of my comments that said ' an extended period of time.'

Would I want to care for a 1 year old baby for 4 nights so their parents could go away with out them? No.

No. But I think you should put the wants and needs of your children first when they are small and dependant. Really not sure how that is a controversial opinion but MN is odd at the best of times.

Well yes. Because my youngest is not yet 1. I can’t say what they will be like at 1.

Currently at around 7/8 months they would actually be fine with this. They know there grandparents and their brother, all the family. Probably actually love it.

But 1 yo can change. Thats why I said potentially. I can’t say what they will be like at 1 when their little personality comes out.

Obviously will book it with the flex cancellation in case we can’t do it.

What age does it become more acceptable to you? You don't seem to have issue with the 4 year old, just the 1 year old so would be fine at 2-3 or not fine at all until at least 4?

Go for it if you want to, will enjoy it and if u will feel no guilt. Personally I am always baffled by these grandparents or family then don’t mind taking on kids for a full week ! I count myself extremely lucky if someone watches my kids to even allow me to an appointment never mind consider a holiday !