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Ian Watkins Dead

817 replies

Americano75 · 11/10/2025 17:25

Gosh, how sad. (100% sarcastic)

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/ian-watkins-dead-lostprophets-paedophile-36052854

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Americano75 · 11/10/2025 20:22

CountryQueen · 11/10/2025 20:19

I’ve been in Barlinnie, our paths might’ve crossed.

Sorry, I wasn’t suggesting Scotland has it easy or doesn’t have shitty old rat hole prisons too. I just meant it is easier to separate and have allocated wings for VPs/Protection when you have the security level system and 90% less prisoners to juggle.

The fact a lot of our Cat As are in old Victorian prisons with any newly built establishments are being given to the “super” establishment models that cater for cat C males and YOs, makes segregation by offence impossible.

The fact people don’t realise they often mingle just fine in general population is probably a good thing. It helps to believe that these men give a shit about anything other than their status and their wallets.

Actually, I do know of a couple of sex offenders who didn't go into protection but opted for mainstream. Took their lives in their own hands. I missed the occasion when the routes got mixed by mistake, apparently it was absolute carnage.

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AccidentallyWesAnderson · 11/10/2025 20:22

Americano75 · 11/10/2025 20:21

Some of the bastards I had to work with turned my stomach. Scum.

Same. Apparently Bar L is going to be made into a museum once HMP Glasgow opens.

SapphireSeptember · 11/10/2025 20:23

AnnaQuayInTheUk · 11/10/2025 17:55

Unbelievably there were TWO separate female fans who arranged that he could rape their children, one of whom was a baby. They were both sentenced to prison, I think for about 15 years?

Just had a very visceral reaction to that. If anyone tried to do anything like that to DS I'd shank them myself.

I'd forgotten the details of the case, but I can't imagine being so obsessed with someone I'd offer them my child to sexually abuse. Something very wrong with those women. I didn't realise there was another woman who kept reporting him and was ignored by the police.

CountryQueen · 11/10/2025 20:23

BatchCookBabe · 11/10/2025 20:21

Exactly. It's not a load of bollocks at all. Clearly that poster @CountryQueen has never heard of the word nonce (and what it's an acronym for!)

You think they’re upset by someone calling them a nonce? 🤣 mate

Butchyrestingface · 11/10/2025 20:24

Americano75 · 11/10/2025 20:18

Oh no he's fine, still working away!

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/m0023r11/inside-barlinnie

Thank you.

I can imagine his mother at the gates with her packed lunch being all,

"Now Tam, ah ken yer being held hostage by a gang of marauding thieves and murderers, but YE STILL HUV TO EAT."

Blarn · 11/10/2025 20:24

CountryQueen · 11/10/2025 20:12

Sweet summer child. The stories some of the old boys took home 🤣. In fact they still do. Admittedly, the 90s were much better. We had so many more resources, unrecognisable to the service we see 3 decades later i’m afraid.

This prisoner was killed today. Not in 1992.

He was there in the 90s and the 2000s and left when prison officer contacts and everything were changed and people looking after cat A prisoners were paid barely anything and didn't stay in the role for long. It's a prison with awful conditions now due to the constant budget cuts over the last 15 years.

With more resources and more experienced staff it would have been much easier to protect prisoners from each other in 1992. And unfortunately more protection for prison officers too. No one is going to shed any tears about Ian Watkins being stabbed because he was a depraved human but prisoners should be safe in prisons.

PeonyPatch · 11/10/2025 20:24

NotrialNodeal · 11/10/2025 20:17

Being a Christian I don't think I can celebrate the murder of anyone. However this thread has reminded me of that time I learnt about Ian Watkins depraved, evil crimes, his response to his convictions 'mega lolz' and the password he used to protect his laptop 'ifuckkids' and suddenly I'm in my kitchen cracking open that bottle I had been saving of Champagne brut Goût de Diamant, for absolutely no particular reason!

Good lord.

CrystalShoe · 11/10/2025 20:24

SorcererGaheris · 11/10/2025 20:06

@CrystalShoe

Considering that child sex offenders are housed together, it's quite likely that Ian Watkins' murderer is also a child abuser.

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I thought child abusers were usually housed alone for their own safety.

I thought that a "regular" inmate must have done this, having found a way to get to him. Because why would someone who'd done the same crime slit Watkins' throat? Surely it's much more likely that the killer is not a child abuser?

NotrialNodeal · 11/10/2025 20:24

Happyjoe · 11/10/2025 20:20

Enjoy every drop! :-)

sláinte!

OnlyheretovoteonAIBU · 11/10/2025 20:25

Don’t care about Watkins but I’m sure the prisoner that did it is no hero.
I definitely wouldn’t want to shake their hand, or anything like that.

Bernadinetta · 11/10/2025 20:25

PeonyPatch · 11/10/2025 20:21

Doesn’t seem like he did, sounds like he was found guilty of plotting it. Still absolutely abhorrent.

Read the court documents linked to on here. I don’t want to have to describe what he did to that baby but if you think it “doesn’t seem like he did” and only plotted it, then read those court documents.

DrowningInSyrup · 11/10/2025 20:25

ChamelalaBingBong · 11/10/2025 20:21

Is it though? Is it really?

I think so, which is why I wrote it. Simple really.

Americano75 · 11/10/2025 20:25

Butchyrestingface · 11/10/2025 20:24

Thank you.

I can imagine his mother at the gates with her packed lunch being all,

"Now Tam, ah ken yer being held hostage by a gang of marauding thieves and murderers, but YE STILL HUV TO EAT."

Honestly, it's a cracking watch. The Ross Kemp one was much derided by most of the staff. Bit Alan Partridge.

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ChamelalaBingBong · 11/10/2025 20:26

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HelenBurns1994 · 11/10/2025 20:27

He was paying other inmates to protect him...?! Thats appalling. Prisons are so corrupt, someone like him should not have access to money or a phone.... well he got his just deserts.

NotrialNodeal · 11/10/2025 20:27

BatchCookBabe · 11/10/2025 20:19

It's hard to not be glad at the death of such a depraved, sick monster isn't it?

Absolutely. He showed zero remorse which makes it even more unpalatable.

Lmnop22 · 11/10/2025 20:28

LizzyEm · 11/10/2025 17:30

Why are people voting YABU???

Because OP said it was sad and then posted a link with no obvious sarcasm! That would be an unreasonable stance!

PeonyPatch · 11/10/2025 20:28

Bernadinetta · 11/10/2025 20:25

Read the court documents linked to on here. I don’t want to have to describe what he did to that baby but if you think it “doesn’t seem like he did” and only plotted it, then read those court documents.

Oh god, I’m not sure if I can. Thanks for responding/clarifying though. Not sure where these court docs are… it’s one of the worst cases of padophilia I’ve ever come across. Crazy to think he was a lead singer of a band. Such cognitive dissonance.

lightningatmidnight · 11/10/2025 20:28

Sorry, voted YABU as didn’t recognise the sarcasm. May he rot in misery! I pity his family, who must be in further turmoil.

Americano75 · 11/10/2025 20:29

Guys, you can change your vote if you like!

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PeonyPatch · 11/10/2025 20:29

OP, Yanbu

Bobbieiris · 11/10/2025 20:29

God realised I can’t spell….profits 🙈 I read about everything he did when it was first in the news I think….wish I hadn’t had to remember it again it’s so horrendous and just the fact that a mother could facilitate this…it just makes me feel so sad and awful. It’s good news that this has happened I have to say, but remembering the crimes he commited and the level of abuse I just don’t feel like cracking open the champagne. Those poor children

SorcererGaheris · 11/10/2025 20:29

CrystalShoe · 11/10/2025 20:24

I thought child abusers were usually housed alone for their own safety.

I thought that a "regular" inmate must have done this, having found a way to get to him. Because why would someone who'd done the same crime slit Watkins' throat? Surely it's much more likely that the killer is not a child abuser?

@CrystalShoe

I've always heard that paedophiles are housed together in the same wing, separate from the prisoners who are not child abusers.

So as far as I'm aware, child abusers are not by themselves, in solitary confinement, but housed with fellow child abusers.

That's why I think it's a very good possibility that the murderer is a child abuser themselves.

Because why would someone who'd done the same crime slit Watkins' throat?

They could have a reason for it that's unrelated to his offences. Watkins was apparently attacked two years ago in prison and it was due to a drug debt and something to do with the ladies who were visiting him - nothing to do with him being a paedophile.

It's possible that this could be a similar scenario. His killer could be a paedophile and so their motive may not be outrage at Watkins' crimes.

ChamelalaBingBong · 11/10/2025 20:30

ThatDreamyLemonBiscuit · 11/10/2025 20:13

OMG OP.

First of all, you express sincere, heartfelt sadness for Ian H Watkins and now you're sarcastically mocking the loss of a wonderful actress????

Oh god, I miss the laughing emoji more than ever 😂

BlueEyedBogWitch · 11/10/2025 20:30

I’ll just leave this here…

Ian Watkins Dead